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Old 28-05-2009, 10:23   #1
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Piers Morgan article 'In defence of Susan Boyle'

As he has done before several times since that first audition, Piers Morgan has come out in defence of Susan Boyle and given some insight into the pressure she is feeling right now and he appeals to everyone to give her a break, stop with the bitching and let her prepare in peace for the biggest day of her life

http://www.officialpiersmorgan.com/2...f-susan-boyle/
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Old 28-05-2009, 10:28   #2
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i want to know how pears got his break into journalism after reading,
that.
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Old 28-05-2009, 10:30   #3
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That's a very good article
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Old 28-05-2009, 10:35   #4
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"She’s not a mass murderer, a thieving banker, or an expense-fiddling politician."

Well said Piers! Thanks for posting that OP
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Old 28-05-2009, 10:38   #5
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Excellent article which makes reasoned and highly logical points and interpretations.
Thanks Liz G-S.
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Old 28-05-2009, 10:39   #6
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i want to know how pears got his break into journalism after reading,
that.
Not sure I understand what you mean by that rebel yell.
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Old 28-05-2009, 10:40   #7
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Well done Piers - a very sensible and logical article, putting everything in persepective.
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Old 28-05-2009, 10:41   #8
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Not sure I understand what you mean by that rebel yell.
Yeah, it's well written: very clear and concise. One typo, we'll get over it.
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Old 28-05-2009, 10:44   #9
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Yeah, it's well written: very clear and concise. One typo, we'll get over it.

Really? Interesting. I found it pretty bog standard i suppose - But he is the one making the dough, not i.
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Old 28-05-2009, 10:45   #10
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He's been on LBC this morning, saying he meant something different to what he said...
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Old 28-05-2009, 10:47   #11
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Good job, 'Piersy-baby'
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Old 28-05-2009, 11:05   #12
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Well said Piers - I agree with every word. I think what we have to remember about Susan is that she is a human being and a vulnerable one at that. She's had a tough life, been mocked and bullied over her looks and her learning difficulty, labelled 'Simple Susan' and endured feelings of worthlessness. The one thing she has is her talent.

On entering BGT she probably realised she would make an impact but no way could she have ever foreseen exactly how big it would be. That she would appear on the first show and suddenly become a global sensation with celebrities fawning over her. On the one hand it must have been flattering but on the other the pressure on her must be tremendous. She got off to a very shaky start at the semi finals and is probably terrified of messing up at the finals and letting her supporters down.

Now she's facing a backlash and having to endure some very negative comments and will be struggling to handle it. I feel for her.

She's not the only talented act in the competition and her victory isn't assured. I hope she does well though.
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Old 28-05-2009, 12:17   #13
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He's been on LBC this morning, saying he meant something different to what he said...
...and what was that?
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Old 28-05-2009, 12:21   #14
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Oh come on people, please. Is Piers for real? He is so concerned about Poor Susan? As a professional journalist he would have known how the media work. He would know that this would be the outcome of the huge media interest.

How much publicity was Piers getting when interviewed on every TV station worldwide that would let him. He pushed this story because it got publicity for BGT and for Piers Morgan.

And now he sits and pontificates about how nasty we are all to this poor woman. But what does he do, he writes another article, with more publicity for Piers Morgan while highlighting the frailties of Susan and the pressure she is under. Talk about kicking someone when they are down.

If he had any real concern he would have done something about it. He could have phoned Simon, gave the producers hell and got her out of the public eye. That is what she needs, not yet another piece about how she is not coping with the pressure. what Susan needs is to get somewhere private, to properly relax and to prepare for Saturday night. He may only be a judge on BGT but he has the media connections to put pressure on those in control of the show. He could do something to really help, but chooses to write an article blaming us for the situation. And everyone appears to be saying how nice that Piers is!!!

There are times I wonder if it is the world that is going mad, or is it just me......
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Old 28-05-2009, 12:26   #15
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There are times I wonder if it is the world that is going mad, or is it just me......


It's just you. ( I'm joking, lol)

Also, I'd like to add, all this stuff about Piers kissing her, and taking her out to dinner. Was that a joke for him? He should take responsibility for his own actions too.
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Old 28-05-2009, 12:27   #16
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Oh come on people, please. Is Piers for real? He is so concerned about Poor Susan? As a professional journalist he would have known how the media work. He would know that this would be the outcome of the huge media interest.

How much publicity was Piers getting when interviewed on every TV station worldwide that would let him. He pushed this story because it got publicity for BGT and for Piers Morgan.

And now he sits and pontificates about how nasty we are all to this poor woman. But what does he do, he writes another article, with more publicity for Piers Morgan while highlighting the frailties of Susan and the pressure she is under. Talk about kicking someone when they are down.

If he had any real concern he would have done something about it. He could have phoned Simon, gave the producers hell and got her out of the public eye. That is what she needs, not yet another piece about how she is not coping with the pressure. what Susan needs is to get somewhere private, to properly relax and to prepare for Saturday night. He may only be a judge on BGT but he has the media connections to put pressure on those in control of the show. He could do something to really help, but chooses to write an article blaming us for the situation. And everyone appears to be saying how nice that Piers is!!!

There are times I wonder if it is the world that is going mad, or is it just me......
I'm with you 100%. what's the betting that piers and his media cronies all sit around laugh at the bgt audience and their gullibility.

pretty high i should imagine.
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Old 28-05-2009, 12:30   #17
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He's right to an extent, of course, but I think that he's wrong with regard to where the main problem lies: most of the 'backlash' hasn't been directed towards her, but towards the breathless, sycophantic, fawning and completely OTT manner in which certain individuals have promoted their fanboy agendas. A lot of people are sick to death of the hype, and of the vitriol that greets any dissenting opinion.
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Is this the same piers morgan described thus?

"He quickly gained notoriety for his invasive, thrusting style and lack of concern for celebrities' right to privacy, claiming that they could not manipulate the media to further their own ends without accepting the consequences of a two way deal"

okay then. we get the picture.
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Old 28-05-2009, 12:36   #19
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That response needed to be written. As it is bordering on sadistic the purile vileness of some toward Susan. A woman who didn't ask for this. No one could have comprehended the Media interest in Susan. Sadly, you could see this coming. She is now shouldering the pressure for the Finalists this week when she is not equipped to cope with it.
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Old 28-05-2009, 12:37   #20
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Is this the same piers morgan described thus?

"He quickly gained notoriety for his invasive, thrusting style and lack of concern for celebrities' right to privacy, claiming that they could not manipulate the media to further their own ends without accepting the consequences of a two way deal"

okay then. we get the picture.

He has stated within the response that it was different for him. He knows he is expected to be hardened to it. The point of the article is that Susan is not. She is fragile in comparison.
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Old 28-05-2009, 12:42   #21
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Oh come on people, please. Is Piers for real? He is so concerned about Poor Susan? As a professional journalist he would have known how the media work. He would know that this would be the outcome of the huge media interest.

How much publicity was Piers getting when interviewed on every TV station worldwide that would let him. He pushed this story because it got publicity for BGT and for Piers Morgan.

And now he sits and pontificates about how nasty we are all to this poor woman. But what does he do, he writes another article, with more publicity for Piers Morgan while highlighting the frailties of Susan and the pressure she is under. Talk about kicking someone when they are down.

If he had any real concern he would have done something about it. He could have phoned Simon, gave the producers hell and got her out of the public eye. That is what she needs, not yet another piece about how she is not coping with the pressure. what Susan needs is to get somewhere private, to properly relax and to prepare for Saturday night. He may only be a judge on BGT but he has the media connections to put pressure on those in control of the show. He could do something to really help, but chooses to write an article blaming us for the situation. And everyone appears to be saying how nice that Piers is!!!

There are times I wonder if it is the world that is going mad, or is it just me......
I can definately see your point and the hypocrisy of the article certainly wasnt lost on me (Im damn sure if he was still an editor of a tabloid rag that he would be having no qualms about running negative Boyle stories) however, I dont agree with a few of your points.

Certainly Piers (along with AHol) has been riding on the Boyle Bandwagon, whipping up a media storm in the States - this has all been positive media spin for her. Not "Kicking her when she is down". Piers' article (taking away the obvious smacks of hypocrisy for one moment ) does at least try to publicly address the media tear down of her.

AS a ex-hack, I think he knows as well as anyone that this story wont be surpressed - no "well made phone calls" will keep the lid on this one - journos have no scruples this story is global - not even Piers is that well connected.

I agree entirely that the BGT production team are doing a shite job of protecting that woman though.
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Old 28-05-2009, 12:47   #22
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He's right to an extent, of course, but I think that he's wrong with regard to where the main problem lies: most of the 'backlash' hasn't been directed towards her, but towards the breathless, sycophantic, fawning and completely OTT manner in which certain individuals have promoted their fanboy agendas. A lot of people are sick to death of the hype, and of the vitriol that greets any dissenting opinion.
It certainly has on this forum, some really nasty things have been said about her
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It certainly has on this forum, some really nasty things have been said about her
Certainly some nasty things have been said, but the vast majority of negative comments have either been legitimate critiques of her performances, or have been directed towards the sycophants and the hype.
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I can definately see your point and the hypocrisy of the article certainly wasnt lost on me (Im damn sure if he was still an editor of a tabloid rag that he would be having no qualms about running negative Boyle stories) however, I dont agree with a few of your points.

Certainly Piers (along with AHol) has been riding on the Boyle Bandwagon, whipping up a media storm in the States - this has all been positive media spin for her. Not "Kicking her when she is down". Piers' article (taking away the obvious smacks of hypocrisy for one moment ) does at least try to publicly address the media tear down of her.

AS a ex-hack, I think he knows as well as anyone that this story wont be surpressed - no "well made phone calls" will keep the lid on this one - journos have no scruples this story is global - not even Piers is that well connected.

I agree entirely that the BGT production team are doing a shite job of protecting that woman though.
Just to clarify - when referring to kicking when down, I was referring to the article just published. Of course good publicity is always welcome, but with the expected backlash Piers adding his comments with the emphasis that she is not coping was where I saw that as the kick.

I should not have said media connections, just connections. He has the means to speak with those in charge to get things sorted rather than sit there wringing his hands over this whole mess. (I was getting carried away when writing it!)
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Just to clarify - when referring to kicking when down, I was referring to the article just published. Of course good publicity is always welcome, but with the expected backlash Piers adding his comments with the emphasis that she is not coping was where I saw that as the kick.

I should not have said media connections, just connections. He has the means to speak with those in charge to get things sorted rather than sit there wringing his hands over this whole mess. (I was getting carried away when writing it!)
Oh right, understood.

I dunno, maybe Im too darn stupid for my own good, but Piers did at least give the impression the piece was written with sincerity and it came from the heart and Id LIKE to believe he had her best interests at heart (but then I guess one could argue, thats how a good journo makes a living by getting us to believe what they want you to )
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