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Old 28-05-2009, 13:13
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Am I the only one who couldn’t careless if my food comes from free range this or that. I tend to buy more free range products than not, not out of some sort of moral superiority but solely out of a taste preference. The only reason I buy organic food is to make baby food. Not sure where this idea that we have to treat animals with kindness that are eventually slaughtered. Is it for some to feel happier about the dead animal on the dinner table had a happy life.
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Old 28-05-2009, 13:16
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So you think there's no reason not to treat animals cruelly, while they're alive? Is that what you're saying?
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Old 28-05-2009, 13:17
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I care, but no I suspect you're not the only one who doesn't.

I find it a bit odd that you want to tell everyone you don't care but each to their own!
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Old 28-05-2009, 13:25
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I buy organic / free range / locally reared produce as much as possible.

I wouldnt have it any other way.
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Old 28-05-2009, 13:37
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It's a personal preference, and I don't think you are alone feeling that way. Lots of people do not recycle, don't turn the taps off when brushing their teeth, don't mind buying produce that has flown from afar instead of opting for British alternative, don't vote, buy clothes from Primark etc...

No-one is forcing you to buy ethically, at the end of the day we all do what makes us feel good about ourselves.
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Old 28-05-2009, 13:40
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Organic and free range is also healthier, as the animals aren't likely to have been pumped full of hormones and chemicals and bits of other animals.
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Old 28-05-2009, 14:07
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So you think there's no reason not to treat animals cruelly, while they're alive? Is that what you're saying?
No that is not what I am saying.
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Old 28-05-2009, 14:17
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I care, but no I suspect you're not the only one who doesn't.

I find it a bit odd that you want to tell everyone you don't care but each to their own!
Things change in this country mainly through the efforts of a vocal minority, too often to we here from some group or another trying to change attitudes and laws that reflect the minority. For example on radio 5 live they where interviewing a group that wanted to make speeding as immoral as drink driving is today. They then went on to state that 75% of people thought that it was ok to speed. Forget the numbers and the topic involved, what we have is a minority trying to push through their ideas over the wishes of a somewhat silent and apathetic majority.
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Old 28-05-2009, 14:30
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Things change in this country mainly through the efforts of a vocal minority, too often to we here from some group or another trying to change attitudes and laws that reflect the minority. For example on radio 5 live they where interviewing a group that wanted to make speeding as immoral as drink driving is today. They then went on to state that 75% of people thought that it was ok to speed. Forget the numbers and the topic involved, what we have is a minority trying to push through their ideas over the wishes of a somewhat silent and apathetic majority.
What is your point?
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Old 28-05-2009, 14:32
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No that is not what I am saying.
So what does this mean?

Not sure where this idea that we have to treat animals with kindness that are eventually slaughtered.
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Old 28-05-2009, 14:34
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I think of it like this, surely eggs that come from a chicken who gets to run outside in the fresh air all day taste a lot better and are better for me than eggs from a chicken who is shoved inside a cage that's inside a building and is unable to even turn around.

Ditto with meat.
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Old 28-05-2009, 14:38
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I bet the factories that make cakes/buns etc... for the supermarkets don't use free range eggs.
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Old 28-05-2009, 14:42
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When we do eat eggs/meat we always buy UK, organic, free range etc - sometimes from the supermarket but that's only when we can't get what we need locally. If we can't get UK produce and/or meet and dairy that meet the right care standards, we do without. Fortunately my OH is from a farming background and is informed enough to make sure I buy ethically and from UK sources (I never used to pay half as much attention as I do now).
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Old 28-05-2009, 14:43
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It's a personal preference, and I don't think you are alone feeling that way. Lots of people do not recycle, don't turn the taps off when brushing their teeth, don't mind buying produce that has flown from afar instead of opting for British alternative, don't vote, buy clothes from Primark etc...

No-one is forcing you to buy ethically, at the end of the day we all do what makes us feel good about ourselves.
Apart from the recycling and switching taps off thats me. I don't care if what I'm eating is British, Australian or or South Afirican! Makes no difference to me. As for organic/free range or whatever, well my eggs are always barn eggs I think, never really look, just go for cheapest.
I don't need to do ethical things to make myself feel good.
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Old 28-05-2009, 14:50
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So what does this mean?
Is means that we don’t have to go and massage our animals to get food from them, you don’t go from kindness to cruelty in one step
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Old 28-05-2009, 16:26
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It's a personal preference, and I don't think you are alone feeling that way. Lots of people do not recycle, don't turn the taps off when brushing their teeth, don't mind buying produce that has flown from afar instead of opting for British alternative, don't vote, buy clothes from Primark etc...

No-one is forcing you to buy ethically, at the end of the day we all do what makes us feel good about ourselves.
I wouldn't say that necessarily, it doesn't make me feel good about myself, in fact it goes against all I stand for to pay the higher price for something ! It's more for me about what I feel is morally right towards other animals, they are no less worthy of being given a decent life than humans are imo.
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Old 28-05-2009, 16:31
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I wouldn't say that necessarily, it doesn't make me feel good about myself, in fact it goes against all I stand for to pay the higher price for something ! It's more for me about what I feel is morally right towards other animals, they are no less worthy of being given a decent life than humans are imo.
And that's what I mean by feeling good about yourself. We only buy free range, we support local farmers where we can, buy British and try to keep to seasonal fruit and veg that hasn't travelled far and wide. We don't eat veal as that tends to come from abroad, and grow as much of our produce as we can.

It makes us feel good ethically and morally, as we believe we are doing the right thing by the animals.

By comparison, I cannot buy non free range eggs or meat because it makes me feel bad.

Perhaps my comment was taken the wrong way - I was trying not to moralise the OP, despite strongly disagreeing with their outlook!
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Old 28-05-2009, 16:40
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I dont generally pick free range/fairtrade bla bla bla but is not because i dont care, simply that i am not really aware of these issues at the time of purchasing or most of the rest of the time if im totally honest unless someone or something pricks my conscience. I dont like the idea of animals being mistreated but i dont really see my food as animals!!
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Old 28-05-2009, 17:01
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I dont generally pick free range/fairtrade bla bla bla but is not because i dont care, simply that i am not really aware of these issues at the time of purchasing or most of the rest of the time if im totally honest unless someone or something pricks my conscience. I dont like the idea of animals being mistreated but i dont really see my food as animals!!
Am quite amazed that someone cannot be aware of issues such as free range or Fair Trade
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Old 28-05-2009, 17:05
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Am quite amazed that someone cannot be aware of issues such as free range or Fair Trade
Why? We're just not bothered enough. I tried fair trade bananas 'cause they was the only ones I could see in Sainsburys, and it tasted awful. Whatever the tesco ones are, they always taste nicer, and the Granny Smith Apples
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Old 28-05-2009, 17:09
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Why? We're just not bothered enough. I tried fair trade bananas 'cause they was the only ones I could see in Sainsburys, and it tasted awful. Whatever the tesco ones are, they always taste nicer, and the Granny Smith Apples
It's nothing to do with being bothered, I mean I am surprised people haven't heard of such issues - not whether or not they act on them. Am not surprised some people do not act on them. Some people are quite happy to go through life in quite an insular way.
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Old 28-05-2009, 17:15
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It's nothing to do with being bothered, I mean I am surprised people haven't heard of such issues - not whether or not they act on them. Am not surprised some people do not act on them. Some people are quite happy to go through life in quite an insular way.
I know, I realised that after I posted it. But still, I've heard of it, but not really bothered about finding more about it. I get the jist, just doesn't affect me and what I buy.
Not really a blinkered view, more indifferent.
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Old 28-05-2009, 17:22
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And that's what I mean by feeling good about yourself. We only buy free range, we support local farmers where we can, buy British and try to keep to seasonal fruit and veg that hasn't travelled far and wide. We don't eat veal as that tends to come from abroad, and grow as much of our produce as we can.

It makes us feel good ethically and morally, as we believe we are doing the right thing by the animals.

By comparison, I cannot buy non free range eggs or meat because it makes me feel bad.

Perhaps my comment was taken the wrong way - I was trying not to moralise the OP, despite strongly disagreeing with their outlook!

I get what you mean and I agree, for Gareth, I don't NEED to do these things to make me feel good about myself but disregard for life whether it's humans or not to me is replusive.
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Old 28-05-2009, 17:27
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I get what you mean and I agree, for Gareth, I don't NEED to do these things to make me feel good about myself but disregard for life whether it's humans or not to me is replusive.
Yeah, there's quite a lot like you to be honest isn't there. Ah well agree to disagree, you have your organic, free range, British, fair trade food, and I'll enjoy the rest.
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Old 28-05-2009, 17:50
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Yeah, there's quite a lot like you to be honest isn't there. Ah well agree to disagree, you have your organic, free range, British, fair trade food, and I'll enjoy the rest.
Thankfully yes, and its an ever growing number which is nice to see.
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