I'm just glad Georgia Moffett didn't get the job!
Karen looks lovely.
Karen looks lovely.
New Assistant confirmed (BBC NEWS Channel)
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Originally Posted by maine79:
“no one who works on Who is going to say anything negative publically about the casting of Matt Smith. So even if they have some doubts they are not going to say anything publically to hurt the popularity of the show.”
“no one who works on Who is going to say anything negative publically about the casting of Matt Smith. So even if they have some doubts they are not going to say anything publically to hurt the popularity of the show.”
Or maybe, just maybe, they might actually think it a good decision and therefore won't speak negatively of it? Why can't you wait until Episode 1 of Series 5 before making a negative judgement? Makes zero sense to me to do otherwise...
Originally Posted by maine79:
“I believe Matt Smith too young for the part and it's not going to work. I may change my mind, but I'm not the only one who has major doubts about him being the Doctor.”
“I believe Matt Smith too young for the part and it's not going to work. I may change my mind, but I'm not the only one who has major doubts about him being the Doctor.”
True; you're not. I've had misgivings since Matt got the part. I'm certainly hoping I'll be wrong. Time will tell.
No misgivings on the companion's age though. As has been shown, she's not the youngest companion to date. As it happens, I find it difficult to imagine an older companion long-term with a younger Doctor, and doubt if it would work well.
Originally Posted by scotsmiss:
“...Karen looks lovely.”
“...Karen looks lovely.”
Indeedy - she was always the best thing about the Kevin Bishop show
Not a bad choice as far as I am concerned. I am glad they have gone for someone younger than a very young Doctor, I don't think it would have worked if his assitant would have been older.
My actual choice for an assistant would have been the girl who played the Doctor's Daughter (Peter Davidson's actual daughter). It would have removed any sexual behaviour out of the relationship & brought in a new relationship dynamic to the show.
My actual choice for an assistant would have been the girl who played the Doctor's Daughter (Peter Davidson's actual daughter). It would have removed any sexual behaviour out of the relationship & brought in a new relationship dynamic to the show.
Originally Posted by bradleybarlow:
“Or maybe, just maybe, they might actually think it a good decision and therefore won't speak negatively of it? Why can't you wait until Episode 1 of Series 5 before making a negative judgement? Makes zero sense to me to do otherwise...”
“Or maybe, just maybe, they might actually think it a good decision and therefore won't speak negatively of it? Why can't you wait until Episode 1 of Series 5 before making a negative judgement? Makes zero sense to me to do otherwise...”
What you said - bang on!
I love that some Whovians are just cool with the fact that they love a kids show, I love it, gives me something in common with the niblings and also nurtures the inner child, keeps the hope alive and the cynicism at bay.
And then there are some people who are in denial about it being a kids show and think it kind of belongs to them alone and that they know better than everyone else about it. Coming out with things like there can't be a black Doctor, or this Doctor is too young. When really it's not up to them to decide that, it's just opinion.
I just think that the New Who team have done the best possible job they could for the last few years, the casting hasn't always been spon on (IMO Michelle Ryan was a nadir) but broadly they have made it a phenomenon. I remember people well taking the mickey out of me for being excited it was coming back and now it's almost cool to like it. It's event TV!
I have every faith in SM too, I have loved the eps he has written (with exception of GITF I wasn't keen) and I think if he saw magic with Matt Smith and now this young lady then I am going to wait for their performances before I decide he is a flaming idiot who can't be trusted with the show.
Like I say though, my opinion, nothing more, I don't know any better than any of you!
By the way, what happened to the Scottish agenda thread? did someone have a sense-of-humouroctomy at the weekend?
Originally Posted by Bezmina:
“What you said - bang on!
I love that some Whovians are just cool with the fact that they love a kids show, I love it, gives me something in common with the niblings and also nurtures the inner child, keeps the hope alive and the cynicism at bay.
And then there are some people who are in denial about it being a kids show and think it kind of belongs to them alone and that they know better than everyone else about it. Coming out with things like there can't be a black Doctor, or this Doctor is too young. When really it's not up to them to decide that, it's just opinion.
I just think that the New Who team have done the best possible job they could for the last few years, the casting hasn't always been spon on (IMO Michelle Ryan was a nadir) but broadly they have made it a phenomenon. I remember people well taking the mickey out of me for being excited it was coming back and now it's almost cool to like it. It's event TV!
I have every faith in SM too, I have loved the eps he has written (with exception of GITF I wasn't keen) and I think if he saw magic with Matt Smith and now this young lady then I am going to wait for their performances before I decide he is a flaming idiot who can't be trusted with the show.
Like I say though, my opinion, nothing more, I don't know any better than any of you!
By the way, what happened to the Scottish agenda thread? did someone have a sense-of-humouroctomy at the weekend?”
“What you said - bang on!
I love that some Whovians are just cool with the fact that they love a kids show, I love it, gives me something in common with the niblings and also nurtures the inner child, keeps the hope alive and the cynicism at bay.
And then there are some people who are in denial about it being a kids show and think it kind of belongs to them alone and that they know better than everyone else about it. Coming out with things like there can't be a black Doctor, or this Doctor is too young. When really it's not up to them to decide that, it's just opinion.
I just think that the New Who team have done the best possible job they could for the last few years, the casting hasn't always been spon on (IMO Michelle Ryan was a nadir) but broadly they have made it a phenomenon. I remember people well taking the mickey out of me for being excited it was coming back and now it's almost cool to like it. It's event TV!
I have every faith in SM too, I have loved the eps he has written (with exception of GITF I wasn't keen) and I think if he saw magic with Matt Smith and now this young lady then I am going to wait for their performances before I decide he is a flaming idiot who can't be trusted with the show.
Like I say though, my opinion, nothing more, I don't know any better than any of you!
By the way, what happened to the Scottish agenda thread? did someone have a sense-of-humouroctomy at the weekend?
”
I agree with every single word of that Bezmina. Bravo!
Originally Posted by Tigger-Roo:
“I agree with every single word of that Bezmina. Bravo!”
“I agree with every single word of that Bezmina. Bravo!”
Cheers Tigger! I must catch up on your Ashes to Ashes watching! I have been lurking on there!
Originally Posted by Bezmina:
“Cheers Tigger! I must catch up on your Ashes to Ashes watching! I have been lurking on there!”
“Cheers Tigger! I must catch up on your Ashes to Ashes watching! I have been lurking on there!”
I haven't been watching so you haven't missed much. Might squeeze some in tonight.
Originally Posted by Bezmina:
“What you said - bang on!
I love that some Whovians are just cool with the fact that they love a kids show, I love it, gives me something in common with the niblings and also nurtures the inner child, keeps the hope alive and the cynicism at bay.
And then there are some people who are in denial about it being a kids show and think it kind of belongs to them alone and that they know better than everyone else about it. Coming out with things like there can't be a black Doctor, or this Doctor is too young. When really it's not up to them to decide that, it's just opinion.
I just think that the New Who team have done the best possible job they could for the last few years, the casting hasn't always been spon on (IMO Michelle Ryan was a nadir) but broadly they have made it a phenomenon. I remember people well taking the mickey out of me for being excited it was coming back and now it's almost cool to like it. It's event TV!
I have every faith in SM too, I have loved the eps he has written (with exception of GITF I wasn't keen) and I think if he saw magic with Matt Smith and now this young lady then I am going to wait for their performances before I decide he is a flaming idiot who can't be trusted with the show.
Like I say though, my opinion, nothing more, I don't know any better than any of you!
By the way, what happened to the Scottish agenda thread? did someone have a sense-of-humouroctomy at the weekend?”
“What you said - bang on!
I love that some Whovians are just cool with the fact that they love a kids show, I love it, gives me something in common with the niblings and also nurtures the inner child, keeps the hope alive and the cynicism at bay.
And then there are some people who are in denial about it being a kids show and think it kind of belongs to them alone and that they know better than everyone else about it. Coming out with things like there can't be a black Doctor, or this Doctor is too young. When really it's not up to them to decide that, it's just opinion.
I just think that the New Who team have done the best possible job they could for the last few years, the casting hasn't always been spon on (IMO Michelle Ryan was a nadir) but broadly they have made it a phenomenon. I remember people well taking the mickey out of me for being excited it was coming back and now it's almost cool to like it. It's event TV!
I have every faith in SM too, I have loved the eps he has written (with exception of GITF I wasn't keen) and I think if he saw magic with Matt Smith and now this young lady then I am going to wait for their performances before I decide he is a flaming idiot who can't be trusted with the show.
Like I say though, my opinion, nothing more, I don't know any better than any of you!
By the way, what happened to the Scottish agenda thread? did someone have a sense-of-humouroctomy at the weekend?
”
Its like you took the words out of my mouth!
...no, seriously,
I'm having a slight identity crisis here, just stop what your doin'...Jokes
And I don't know about anywhere else, but in my circle of teenage friends (17/18-years-old), it is cool to watch Doctor Who as event TV, but it isn't cool in the slightest to over-analyse episodes or record them onto DVD and keep them.
So, to maintain my coolness I've eased down on recording them and basically watch them on iPlayer over and over again after they've aired in secret until I get bored of them! And they're repeated more than often enough on BBC3. I'm a Who-fan and I'm cool! Couldn't do that ten years ago.
Originally Posted by Eaglestriker:
“Its like you took the words out of my mouth!
...no, seriously, I'm having a slight identity crisis here, just stop what your doin'...
Jokes
And I don't know about anywhere else, but in my circle of teenage friends (17/18-years-old), it is cool to watch Doctor Who as event TV, but it isn't cool in the slightest to over-analyse episodes or record them onto DVD and keep them. So, to maintain my coolness I've eased down on recording them and basically watch them on iPlayer over and over again after they've aired in secret until I get bored of them! And they're repeated more than often enough on BBC3. I'm a Who-fan and I'm cool! Couldn't do that ten years ago.”
“Its like you took the words out of my mouth!
...no, seriously,
I'm having a slight identity crisis here, just stop what your doin'...Jokes
And I don't know about anywhere else, but in my circle of teenage friends (17/18-years-old), it is cool to watch Doctor Who as event TV, but it isn't cool in the slightest to over-analyse episodes or record them onto DVD and keep them.
So, to maintain my coolness I've eased down on recording them and basically watch them on iPlayer over and over again after they've aired in secret until I get bored of them! And they're repeated more than often enough on BBC3. I'm a Who-fan and I'm cool! Couldn't do that ten years ago.”
Yeah I try to keep the over analysis to a minimum too! And in an effort to convince my other half that I am not a total geek (though frankly he knows the truth
) I don't keep any DVD's either!
Originally Posted by Bezmina:
“Yeah I try to keep the over analysis to a minimum too! And in an effort to convince my other half that I am not a total geek (though frankly he knows the truth ) I don't keep any DVD's either!”
“Yeah I try to keep the over analysis to a minimum too! And in an effort to convince my other half that I am not a total geek (though frankly he knows the truth
) I don't keep any DVD's either!”
why hide it,its pointless we always get caught out in the end with our geekdom
Originally Posted by Martacus:
“Not a bad choice as far as I am concerned. I am glad they have gone for someone younger than a very young Doctor, I don't think it would have worked if his assitant would have been older.”
“Not a bad choice as far as I am concerned. I am glad they have gone for someone younger than a very young Doctor, I don't think it would have worked if his assitant would have been older.”
They didn't have any choice but to get someone who looks younger. To have someone older would have meant it was Doctor Who and his Mum saving the galaxy. Instead we've got Doctor Who the undergraduate and his schoolgirl assistant.
I guess that by the next time they have to cast a new Doctor the cast will be so young it'll have to be shown on Cbeebies.
Originally Posted by Spacedone:
“They didn't have any choice but to get someone who looks younger. To have someone older would have meant it was Doctor Who and his Mum saving the galaxy. Instead we've got Doctor Who the undergraduate and his schoolgirl assistant.
I guess that by the next time they have to cast a new Doctor the cast will be so young it'll have to be shown on Cbeebies.”
“They didn't have any choice but to get someone who looks younger. To have someone older would have meant it was Doctor Who and his Mum saving the galaxy. Instead we've got Doctor Who the undergraduate and his schoolgirl assistant.
I guess that by the next time they have to cast a new Doctor the cast will be so young it'll have to be shown on Cbeebies.”
made by the creators of In The Night Garden
Originally Posted by GARETH197901:
“why hide it,its pointless we always get caught out in the end with our geekdom”
“why hide it,its pointless we always get caught out in the end with our geekdom
”
Indeed. You should be proud of your geekdom. You shouldn't feel you have to stay in the closet.
Originally Posted by Spacedone:
“They didn't have any choice but to get someone who looks younger. To have someone older would have meant it was Doctor Who and his Mum saving the galaxy. Instead we've got Doctor Who the undergraduate and his schoolgirl assistant.
I guess that by the next time they have to cast a new Doctor the cast will be so young it'll have to be shown on Cbeebies.”
“They didn't have any choice but to get someone who looks younger. To have someone older would have meant it was Doctor Who and his Mum saving the galaxy. Instead we've got Doctor Who the undergraduate and his schoolgirl assistant.
I guess that by the next time they have to cast a new Doctor the cast will be so young it'll have to be shown on Cbeebies.”
Well, speaking realistically, it'd be the Post-graduate Doctor Who and his under-graduate assistant. But otherwise, are you too very against the casting decisions made thusfar before you've actually seen them perform in their roles?
Patience is a virtue! At least wait until the first few promo shots before deciding if they look right for the show.
It will all pay off, I'm sure of it! Well, either sure or extremely hopeful.
Originally Posted by Spacedone:
“They didn't have any choice but to get someone who looks younger. To have someone older would have meant it was Doctor Who and his Mum saving the galaxy. Instead we've got Doctor Who the undergraduate and his schoolgirl assistant.
I guess that by the next time they have to cast a new Doctor the cast will be so young it'll have to be shown on Cbeebies.”
“They didn't have any choice but to get someone who looks younger. To have someone older would have meant it was Doctor Who and his Mum saving the galaxy. Instead we've got Doctor Who the undergraduate and his schoolgirl assistant.
I guess that by the next time they have to cast a new Doctor the cast will be so young it'll have to be shown on Cbeebies.”
Yes, and instead of their first words being mama or dada, it'll be "Hmmm, closing all zed neutrino relay loops using an internalised synchronous back feed reversal loop. That button there!"
I've done a piece on companions younger than Karen Gillan here:
http://www.denofgeek.com/television/...en_gillan.html
http://www.denofgeek.com/television/...en_gillan.html
Originally Posted by Spacedone:
“They didn't have any choice but to get someone who looks younger. To have someone older would have meant it was Doctor Who and his Mum saving the galaxy. Instead we've got Doctor Who the undergraduate and his schoolgirl assistant.
I guess that by the next time they have to cast a new Doctor the cast will be so young it'll have to be shown on Cbeebies.”
“They didn't have any choice but to get someone who looks younger. To have someone older would have meant it was Doctor Who and his Mum saving the galaxy. Instead we've got Doctor Who the undergraduate and his schoolgirl assistant.
I guess that by the next time they have to cast a new Doctor the cast will be so young it'll have to be shown on Cbeebies.”
The problem may be slightly different but the conclusion is the same? With a new Doctor following a strong one, the expected thing is that a strong continuing companion keeps the ship afloat till they are established -like Sarah Jane or Nyssa/Tegan or Rose. Where that doesn't happen, the incoming Doctor has worked because they were very well known and loved (Jon Pertwee) Starting again from afresh with a new "different" Doctor (Colin Baker) is problematic. Having an older Doctor with a very dynamic younger companion works with Rose and Ace and Jo because they can be dynamic without upstaging their doctor. Having a pretty much unknown young Doctor and a younger unknown companion is what Sir Humphrey would call a courageous decision - reinventing two wheels when the show had already evolved into a racing bike.
Its a situation that seems unavoidable though when you go for a young unknown Doctor. An established much loved continuing companion or someone really well known or someone really dynamic would simply over shadow a new unknown young doctor. That means they can't use one of the probably great companions who have been seen popping up on Dr Who over the last 4 years but didn't get the job - from Jo Joyner to Michelle Ryan .
It may work and be great but the alternative of installing a strong new companion whilst David is still there and going for an older better known Doctor has better pedigree and wouldn't have left so many suitable and potentially brilliant companions floating around as unconcluded stories in the Who universe.
Originally Posted by dobsy:
“Yes, and instead of their first words being mama or dada, it'll be "Hmmm, closing all zed neutrino relay loops using an internalised synchronous back feed reversal loop. That button there!"”
“Yes, and instead of their first words being mama or dada, it'll be "Hmmm, closing all zed neutrino relay loops using an internalised synchronous back feed reversal loop. That button there!"
”
"No, no no no, dada! DADA!!!"
"Da...da...daaa..."
"Yess go on, say it!!!
""...Davros!"
"... you are now my least favourite offspring"
New DWM cover:
http://img7.imageshack.us/i/13595072.jpg
What's up with that jacket? I thought it was Matt Smith who had the bad fashion sense?
http://img7.imageshack.us/i/13595072.jpg
What's up with that jacket? I thought it was Matt Smith who had the bad fashion sense?
Originally Posted by stcoop:
“New DWM cover:
http://img7.imageshack.us/i/13595072.jpg
What's up with that jacket? I thought it was Matt Smith who had the bad fashion sense?”
“New DWM cover:
http://img7.imageshack.us/i/13595072.jpg
What's up with that jacket? I thought it was Matt Smith who had the bad fashion sense?
”
Link doesn't work, stcoop.
Originally Posted by JCR:
“Link doesn't work, stcoop.”
“Link doesn't work, stcoop.”
Hmm. Needed a "/" at the end.
http://img7.imageshack.us/i/13595072.jpg/
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