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The Risk Taker Vs The Robot (Place your bets)
The Robot will win, she is not exciting in the workplace I am assuming, but she doesn't do anything wrong.
Still trying working out why Jasmina is in the final
Still trying working out why Jasmina is in the final
Possibly because Yasmina organises well, very well according to Nick and Margaret. But I'm surprised too, she's got less real experience than I thought.
Originally Posted by pear_juice:
“Sorry but when has Yasmina been a risk taker:”
“Sorry but when has Yasmina been a risk taker
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When she opened her own restaurant?
Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts:
“When she opened her own restaurant?”
“When she opened her own restaurant?”
Yes, but with her mother's money. I think that rather spoilt the image she had built as some great entrepreneur.
Why did they keep calling it an "award winning restaurant" anyway, what awards has her restaurant won ?
Also the bottom line profit figures for her restaurant were not impressive, surprised nobody seemed to pick up on that..probably explains why she wants a change of career ?
yeh i think the labels you have given to yasmina and kate are very biased towards yasmina. I wouldnt call her a risk taker!
Is Yasmina a risk taker?
Sorry but where did that description come from and why do people automatically accept labels like this which are given to them by TV shows?
I haven't seen her described by this forum as a risk taker, yet as soon as the show provides us with this label for her some seem to accept it without question.
Sorry but where did that description come from and why do people automatically accept labels like this which are given to them by TV shows?
I haven't seen her described by this forum as a risk taker, yet as soon as the show provides us with this label for her some seem to accept it without question.
Kate all the way for me: manages to be businesslike and also smile and laugh a lot and not be nasty. I don't find her robotic at all.
I think it will be Yasmina, though, because Kate is probably too corporate for Alan.
I think I've spotted a weakness in Kate, though: unusually for people on this programme, she's not strong at selling. Sold nothing in Liverpool, was clueless (though funny) on the shopping channel.
I think it will be Yasmina, though, because Kate is probably too corporate for Alan.
I think I've spotted a weakness in Kate, though: unusually for people on this programme, she's not strong at selling. Sold nothing in Liverpool, was clueless (though funny) on the shopping channel.
I like the risk taker but the robot will win. You can't go wrong with the robot, it is pretty reliable. Just follow the instructions manual, keep it away from pantsman and it will be just fine 
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Originally Posted by jericho_mpm2005:
“Topic for all.”
“Topic
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So how do you define risk taker?
Is it the person who put their mother's house on the line to buy a restaurant, but only deemed their own mother to be worth one percent shareholder?
Is it that risk taker that you mean?
I'll go with the robot in this case. At least they are indestructible.
I don't get this 'risk-taker' misnomer...the only risk I recall her taking was on the cosmetics/body-care task - she OK-ed/was party to the sandalwood/cedarwood decision...and was completely oblivious to having taken the RISK until after the fact.
Originally Posted by Deerd:
“I don't get this 'risk-taker' misnomer...the only risk I recall her taking was on the cosmetics/body-care task - she OK-ed/was party to the sandalwood/cedarwood decision...and was completely oblivious to having taken the RISK until after the fact.”
“I don't get this 'risk-taker' misnomer...the only risk I recall her taking was on the cosmetics/body-care task - she OK-ed/was party to the sandalwood/cedarwood decision...and was completely oblivious to having taken the RISK until after the fact.”
I think the whole point here, Deerd, is that again, WE, are a product of editing.
We've heard the final interviews and seen the whole show, but we haven't at all. Not nearly enough, or too much depending on whom you support.
I don't like the balance that tips over too good to one camp and then tips the other way to the other.
Sometimes I just like to jump in now and again to try and bring the seesaw to a balanced point that I haven't seen for a while
Originally Posted by JTW:
“I think the whole point here, Deerd, is that again, WE, are a product of editing.
We've heard the final interviews and seen the whole show, but we haven't at all. Not nearly enough, or too much depending on whom you support.
I don't like the balance that tips over too good to one camp and then tips the other way to the other.
Sometimes I just like to jump in now and again to try and bring the seesaw to a balanced point that I haven't seen for a while”
“I think the whole point here, Deerd, is that again, WE, are a product of editing.
We've heard the final interviews and seen the whole show, but we haven't at all. Not nearly enough, or too much depending on whom you support.
I don't like the balance that tips over too good to one camp and then tips the other way to the other.
Sometimes I just like to jump in now and again to try and bring the seesaw to a balanced point that I haven't seen for a while”
Undoubtedly, and it ought to be bourne in mind that, even although we ramp one canidate or another based on the edit...the decision made by SAS is based on the final two having actually been an active part of his organization(s) for months...something we are never party to.
Ultimately a show like TA is fairly inaccessible as an interactive process - yet every season I get sucked in assessing merit...pontificating on character and personality etc...oh the daftness of it all...yet such fun.
The construct is wrong. Yasmina hasn't taken any great risk in any task I recall. She has made bigger mistakes which suggests you wouldn't want her unsupervised in a position to take risks. She took the less risky option in the last task.The interview played with the idea and made the point that she took risks with her mother's money. Kate went for the risky items in the last task and according to SAS made the right choice.
Yasmina is a bit odd in that she's described as finance director in her restaurant but she's not only the one who got the figures wrong in the perfume task but in the interview she was confused over terms and her own figures. She's generally competent, has been successful in tasks but hardly shown up as a successful risk taker.
The robot is smart enough with a first class degree in the relevant subject to avoid those problems. She's also consistently made the right business calls. She's also proved the best man manager there which also blows away the robot label - Yasmina is more likely to exterminate her team. The logic of the robotic label is that he doesn't want someone competent enough to avoid needing to be emotional, frustrated or overly ruthless. Her problem may be that SAS won't want a psychology student studying him, he's avoided the smartest candidate most years and he does tend to pick people who havn't been obvious winners on the show.
Yasmina is a bit odd in that she's described as finance director in her restaurant but she's not only the one who got the figures wrong in the perfume task but in the interview she was confused over terms and her own figures. She's generally competent, has been successful in tasks but hardly shown up as a successful risk taker.
The robot is smart enough with a first class degree in the relevant subject to avoid those problems. She's also consistently made the right business calls. She's also proved the best man manager there which also blows away the robot label - Yasmina is more likely to exterminate her team. The logic of the robotic label is that he doesn't want someone competent enough to avoid needing to be emotional, frustrated or overly ruthless. Her problem may be that SAS won't want a psychology student studying him, he's avoided the smartest candidate most years and he does tend to pick people who havn't been obvious winners on the show.
Originally Posted by JTW:
“So how do you define risk taker?
Is it the person who put their mother's house on the line to buy a restaurant, but only deemed their own mother to be worth one percent shareholder?
Is it that risk taker that you mean?
I'll go with the robot in this case. At least they are indestructible.”
“So how do you define risk taker?
Is it the person who put their mother's house on the line to buy a restaurant, but only deemed their own mother to be worth one percent shareholder?
Is it that risk taker that you mean?
I'll go with the robot in this case. At least they are indestructible.
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I used to do that as a kid. Played the slot machines in margate, pocketed the winnings and kept on asking parents for more pennies to play..........
Originally Posted by Apple_Crumble:
“Yasmina a risk taker? She went running off to mummy for her ickle restaurant.”
“Yasmina a risk taker? She went running off to mummy for her ickle restaurant.”
So what? Sir Alan understood that, it's a family thing in virtually all families except native British ones. You help your kids as much as you can. The mother obviously believed in her children, she wanted to be involved, so she put up the money. The risk of losing all of your family's money if you don't succeed is surely big enough for most people, no?
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“The construct is wrong. Yasmina hasn't taken any great risk in any task I recall. She has made bigger mistakes which suggests you wouldn't want her unsupervised in a position to take risks. She took the less risky option in the last task.The interview played with the idea and made the point that she took risks with her mother's money. Kate went for the risky items in the last task and according to SAS made the right choice.
Yasmina is a bit odd in that she's described as finance director in her restaurant but she's not only the one who got the figures wrong in the perfume task but in the interview she was confused over terms and her own figures. She's generally competent, has been successful in tasks but hardly shown up as a successful risk taker.
The robot is smart enough with a first class degree in the relevant subject to avoid those problems. She's also consistently made the right business calls. She's also proved the best man manager there which also blows away the robot label - Yasmina is more likely to exterminate her team. The logic of the robotic label is that he doesn't want someone competent enough to avoid needing to be emotional, frustrated or overly ruthless. Her problem may be that SAS won't want a psychology student studying him, he's avoided the smartest candidate most years and he does tend to pick people who havn't been obvious winners on the show.”
“The construct is wrong. Yasmina hasn't taken any great risk in any task I recall. She has made bigger mistakes which suggests you wouldn't want her unsupervised in a position to take risks. She took the less risky option in the last task.The interview played with the idea and made the point that she took risks with her mother's money. Kate went for the risky items in the last task and according to SAS made the right choice.
Yasmina is a bit odd in that she's described as finance director in her restaurant but she's not only the one who got the figures wrong in the perfume task but in the interview she was confused over terms and her own figures. She's generally competent, has been successful in tasks but hardly shown up as a successful risk taker.
The robot is smart enough with a first class degree in the relevant subject to avoid those problems. She's also consistently made the right business calls. She's also proved the best man manager there which also blows away the robot label - Yasmina is more likely to exterminate her team. The logic of the robotic label is that he doesn't want someone competent enough to avoid needing to be emotional, frustrated or overly ruthless. Her problem may be that SAS won't want a psychology student studying him, he's avoided the smartest candidate most years and he does tend to pick people who havn't been obvious winners on the show.”
She is a risk taker because she has set up her own business!
As one of the interviewers said she is the only candidate that has done what everyone is claiming they could do, be an entrepenaur.
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“The construct is wrong. Yasmina hasn't taken any great risk in any task I recall. She has made bigger mistakes which suggests you wouldn't want her unsupervised in a position to take risks. She took the less risky option in the last task.The interview played with the idea and made the point that she took risks with her mother's money. Kate went for the risky items in the last task and according to SAS made the right choice.
Yasmina is a bit odd in that she's described as finance director in her restaurant but she's not only the one who got the figures wrong in the perfume task but in the interview she was confused over terms and her own figures. She's generally competent, has been successful in tasks but hardly shown up as a successful risk taker.
The robot is smart enough with a first class degree in the relevant subject to avoid those problems. She's also consistently made the right business calls. She's also proved the best man manager there which also blows away the robot label - Yasmina is more likely to exterminate her team. The logic of the robotic label is that he doesn't want someone competent enough to avoid needing to be emotional, frustrated or overly ruthless. Her problem may be that SAS won't want a psychology student studying him, he's avoided the smartest candidate most years and he does tend to pick people who havn't been obvious winners on the show.”
“The construct is wrong. Yasmina hasn't taken any great risk in any task I recall. She has made bigger mistakes which suggests you wouldn't want her unsupervised in a position to take risks. She took the less risky option in the last task.The interview played with the idea and made the point that she took risks with her mother's money. Kate went for the risky items in the last task and according to SAS made the right choice.
Yasmina is a bit odd in that she's described as finance director in her restaurant but she's not only the one who got the figures wrong in the perfume task but in the interview she was confused over terms and her own figures. She's generally competent, has been successful in tasks but hardly shown up as a successful risk taker.
The robot is smart enough with a first class degree in the relevant subject to avoid those problems. She's also consistently made the right business calls. She's also proved the best man manager there which also blows away the robot label - Yasmina is more likely to exterminate her team. The logic of the robotic label is that he doesn't want someone competent enough to avoid needing to be emotional, frustrated or overly ruthless. Her problem may be that SAS won't want a psychology student studying him, he's avoided the smartest candidate most years and he does tend to pick people who havn't been obvious winners on the show.”
I agree with pretty much most of that. To be fair to Yasmina I think the Finance Director title might be mainly to look better on business cards that her restaurant would need to hand out. Also a Ltd company HAS to have it's accounts audited by a 3rd party accountant. They will have drawn up the submitted accounts. Claude's point being Yasmina looks at these but doesn't understand them properly. That blows the Finance title away. Still leaves the restaurant organiser, marketeer, hostess and team leader/central hub. Which is a lot to list as a title even on a CV
