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Rumour about scheduling of Season Five
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itv sucks
08-06-2009
Originally Posted by stcoop:
“Don't we have this same crap rumour every year?”

Yes, it's one of several recurring rumours that can filed under 'wishful thinking' rather than fact:

i.e. return to 25 minute episodes, a move of the production base to Manchester/London, Paul McGann, face in the opening credits, etc, etc.
wizzywick
08-06-2009
Originally Posted by JAS84:
“Yeah, don't diss the Captain. LOL! You're right, they can't put Merlin and Doctor Who on together, not unless they do it back to back like they did with Planet of the Dead and Robin Hood. But one or both of them would definitely clash with X-Factor if they did that. ”

The thing is, people over-hype X-Factor and assume it is mightier than it really is. It is a well known fact that often Strictly Come Dancing which is occassionally scheduled it does better and performs consistently high in the ratings. There is no reason why Merlin and Doctor Who could not both be scheduled on saturday nights as I believe it would provide a strong line up and give X-Factor a run for its money: For example:

5.45pm Merlin
6.30 Strictly Come Dancing
7.45 Doctor Who
8.30 In It To Win It
9.20 Casualty
10.10 News
10.30 Match of the Day

If they kept that exact schedule throughout the entire Autumn run I think BBC1 would trounce ITV especially as X factor usually follows a repeat of You've Been Framed. The only show to give the series a real credible threat is Harry Hill's TV Burp.
Hayden1992
08-06-2009
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“The thing is, people over-hype X-Factor and assume it is mightier than it really is. It is a well known fact that often Strictly Come Dancing which is occassionally scheduled it does better and performs consistently high in the ratings. There is no reason why Merlin and Doctor Who could not both be scheduled on saturday nights as I believe it would provide a strong line up and give X-Factor a run for its money: For example:

5.45pm Merlin
6.30 Strictly Come Dancing
7.45 Doctor Who
8.30 In It To Win It
9.20 Casualty
10.10 News
10.30 Match of the Day

If they kept that exact schedule throughout the entire Autumn run I think BBC1 would trounce ITV especially as X factor usually follows a repeat of You've Been Framed. The only show to give the series a real credible threat is Harry Hill's TV Burp.”

They best not do that i am a loyal fan to both The X Factor and Doctor Who and clashing them would be a big mistake, as i love both of them and i think you have under estimated The X Factor it has performed better than Strictly Come Dancing except for 2 times.
Score
08-06-2009
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“The thing is, people over-hype X-Factor and assume it is mightier than it really is. It is a well known fact that often Strictly Come Dancing which is occassionally scheduled it does better and performs consistently high in the ratings. There is no reason why Merlin and Doctor Who could not both be scheduled on saturday nights as I believe it would provide a strong line up and give X-Factor a run for its money: For example:

5.45pm Merlin
6.30 Strictly Come Dancing
7.45 Doctor Who
8.30 In It To Win It
9.20 Casualty
10.10 News
10.30 Match of the Day

If they kept that exact schedule throughout the entire Autumn run I think BBC1 would trounce ITV especially as X factor usually follows a repeat of You've Been Framed. The only show to give the series a real credible threat is Harry Hill's TV Burp.”

Er, X Factor beat Strictly every week bar none last year, so I hardly think that BBC1 would 'trounce' ITV with that schedule.

I highly doubt that this will happen, as they won't want it clashing with TXF, and they also won't want Doctor Who and Merlin on the same night for 6 weeks. I wouldn't be surprised to see Doctor Who moved to January-March, though.
Hayden1992
08-06-2009
I would not clash Doctor Who or The X Factor as they are both huge for there T.V channels and both pull in high ratings. So all the audiences will be puzzeled what to watch either WHO or X FACTOR. I would have to watch THE X FACTOR and WHO on I Player.
stcoop
08-06-2009
Given that they won't be starting by shooting a Xmas Special (it'll come at the end of the shoot and finally in something approaching Winter!) they should be able to start showing Series 5 in February rather than March.
samoleon88
09-06-2009
Originally Posted by JAS84:
“Good point! LOL! Matt Smith could revisit the events of episode 2.11, where he visited the 2012 Olympics, and bump into David Tennant's Doctor. As it would be in his third series, it would be long enough after Tennant's departure. There would be a continuity problem though - at the time of filming, the now infamous logo hadn't been revealed, so the episode used the LONDON 2012 bid logo. Of course in 2012, the real, much hated logo would be used. Also, the "monster" was actually a possessed child in that episode - she'll be six years older by then.”


but she would be 6 years younger now

this is my first post so be nice lol
wizzywick
09-06-2009
Originally Posted by Score:
“Er, X Factor beat Strictly every week bar none last year, so I hardly think that BBC1 would 'trounce' ITV with that schedule.

I highly doubt that this will happen, as they won't want it clashing with TXF, and they also won't want Doctor Who and Merlin on the same night for 6 weeks. I wouldn't be surprised to see Doctor Who moved to January-March, though.”

Doctor will not start until the end of March at least. Six Nations runs from February to March and the BBC normally do not put on regular programmes or series' during that period as they would be prone to disruption. It is true that last year X Factor beat SCD in the ratings (but not by a huge amount) but in 2007 SCD regularly beat X Factor. It depends on who the celebrities are. You can not predict from one year to the next which show would come out on top and it would also depend on the strength of the programme leading into and coming out of each entertainment show. Whilst I suggested a schedule for Saturday nights, I do not believe that Doctor Who will be on in Autumn 2010. It is highly more likely that the series will return on Easter saturday 2010 and continue (with the exception of Eurovision Week) for 13 weeks continuously.

Even with BGT on, Doctor Who will perform well. One of the reasons why BGT performed well this year was because Primeval led into it and there was little else on offer on BBC1. Put something strong on BBC1 at the same time and BGT audience will be dented. Doctor Who will always achieve between 5.5 million and 8 million viewers.
Ainley
10-06-2009
Originally Posted by hankmoody:
“why is it the whole bloody world stops for football?”

Because it is the World Cup and big football matches constantly get the best TV ratings.
itv sucks
10-06-2009
The split season idea (if it is happening) could also be driven by BBC spending limitations resulting from the licence fee freeze.

Perhaps the BBC is faced with a choice of making only one Saturday night family drama series next year, so they're going to stick with the one which pulls in the highest audiences for them. The split would ensure they have family drama on at sometime during the spring and autumn.

The ideal window for the spring run is between the end of The Six Nations Championship (Mar 20) and The FA CUP (May 29). On this basis, we could expect a seven episode run from Mar 27 to May 8.

The other six episodes could then run from Nov 11 to Dec 18, with the Xmas 2010 special following a week later.

As for The X Factor, Merlin did well against it last year, so surely Who (teamed up with Strictly Come Dancing) has a good chance of providing a popular alternative for those who don't want to watch Cowell's puppet show.
wizzywick
10-06-2009
Originally Posted by itv sucks:
“The split season idea (if it is happening) could also be driven by BBC spending limitations resulting from the licence fee freeze.

Perhaps the BBC is faced with a choice of making only one Saturday night family drama series next year, so they're going to stick with the one which pulls in the highest audiences for them. The split would ensure they have family drama on at sometime during the spring and autumn.

The ideal window for the spring run is between the end of The Six Nations Championship (Mar 20) and The FA CUP (May 29). On this basis, we could expect a seven episode run from Mar 27 to May 8.

The other six episodes could then run from Nov 11 to Dec 18, with the Xmas 2010 special following a week later.

As for The X Factor, Merlin did well against it last year, so surely Who (teamed up with Strictly Come Dancing) has a good chance of providing a popular alternative for those who don't want to watch Cowell's puppet show.”


Can you really imagine the producers of the show would like their first series split into two? This would be suicide for the series and would also prevent massive worldwide DVd sales throughout the year if this happened. Also distributing it to other channels such as Watch would also prove difficult. Remember, it isn't just the boxed set that does well at Christmas, each individual DVD release does extremely well. There is no way that the BBC would risk annoying producers, distributors and the loyal audience. During last years Euro08 tournament, the series wasn't interrupted so it there is every reason to assume that the next series wont be interrupted by the World cup. Also the licence fee hasn't been freezed. It has just not been increased by the amount the BBC wanted.
itv sucks
10-06-2009
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“Can you really imagine the producers of the show would like their first series split into two? This would be suicide for the series and would also prevent massive worldwide DVd sales throughout the year if this happened. Also distributing it to other channels such as Watch would also prove difficult. Remember, it isn't just the boxed set that does well at Christmas, each individual DVD release does extremely well. There is no way that the BBC would risk annoying producers, distributors and the loyal audience. During last years Euro08 tournament, the series wasn't interrupted so it there is every reason to assume that the next series wont be interrupted by the World cup. Also the licence fee hasn't been freezed. It has just not been increased by the amount the BBC wanted.”

I agree with you on all that. I don't actually think a split will happen. I was just speculating on why or how a split series could happen if the BBC chose to go down that route.

In 2006, the combination of Who and The World Cup worked quite well, so I don't see that as a problem.

Thanks also for the clarification on the licence fee situation. I stand corrected.

Cheers


wizzywick
10-06-2009
Originally Posted by itv sucks:
“I agree with you on all that. I don't actually think a split will happen. I was just speculating on why or how a split series could happen if the BBC chose to go down that route.

In 2006, the combination of Who and The World Cup worked quite well, so I don't see that as a problem.

Thanks also for the clarification on the licence fee situation. I stand corrected.

Cheers


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No probs mate glad to be of service! So nice to be able to have a proper mature difference of opinion with folk and not a slanging match! I think I like you! I like your user name as well. That is something I WILL agree with you on!
crazzyaz7
10-06-2009
Originally Posted by itv sucks:
“I agree with you on all that. I don't actually think a split will happen. I was just speculating on why or how a split series could happen if the BBC chose to go down that route.

In 2006, the combination of Who and The World Cup worked quite well, so I don't see that as a problem.

Thanks also for the clarification on the licence fee situation. I stand corrected.

Cheers


”



I did think that when I read this thread.....I could be wrong, but didn't Doomsday air on the same day as the final match?????....and again I could be wrong....but I think both were highly rated shows of the day....

So Football shouldn't be an issue next year either......
alexjones50
11-06-2009
Originally Posted by crazzyaz7:
“I did think that when I read this thread.....I could be wrong, but didn't Doomsday air on the same day as the final match?????....and again I could be wrong....but I think both were highly rated shows of the day....

So Football shouldn't be an issue next year either......”

well the previous episode , army of ghosts aired just after the match where england were knocked out by portugal
i'm not sure whether doomsday was one the same day a the final, i kinda lost interest in the world cup once england were eliminated.
crazzyaz7
11-06-2009
Originally Posted by alexjones50:
“well the previous episode , army of ghosts aired just after the match where england were knocked out by portugal
i'm not sure whether doomsday was one the same day a the final, i kinda lost interest in the world cup once england were eliminated.”

I just checked on the Barb site....and this was Saturday's ratings when Doomsday aired....with a match an hour later, but not the final....that was on Sunday.....

DOCTOR WHO (SAT 1859) 8.22
WORLD CUP 2006: GER V POR (SAT 2000) 7.06

Even the final got about 13 million or so (however the England Match that you mentioned got 16 million).....I don't think the Beeb need to worry about Doctor Who...and can easily place it somewhere on a Saturday, even if there are Matches on that day...
Analysethis
11-06-2009
I remember the Radio Times covers for Doomsday - it was one of the few iconic ones they've done of late. They had one cover with Daleks and one with Cybermen and had made it all footballish for the cup match.

EDIT: found em
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/image...mes_13a_sm.jpg
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/image...mes_13b_sm.jpg
crazzyaz7
11-06-2009
Originally Posted by Analysethis:
“I remember the Radio Times covers for Doomsday - it was one of the few iconic ones they've done of late. They had one cover with Daleks and one with Cybermen and had made it all footballish for the cup match.

EDIT: found em
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/image...mes_13a_sm.jpg
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/image...mes_13b_sm.jpg”

Of course....yes I remember that.....
Mulett
11-06-2009
I can't believe I'm actually saying this out loud, but . . . I'd quite like Doctor Who to be on Sunday evenings at 7.30pm!

It would be lovely to have something good to end the weekend with, it would have NO competition at all, it's early enough that kids could still watch it AND it would be fresh in the memory and so become more of a talking point at work/school Monday morning.

*runs for cover
JAS84
11-06-2009
Er, hasn't Doctor Who always been on either Saturday or Monday (and Monday didn't work, in fact, it killed it, because it clashed with Coronation Street)? Saturday is it's traditional slot, the only time a new episode not starring Sylvester McCoy has been on a different day is the Xmas specials. Mulett, no-one's going to like a Sunday timeslot. Besides, isn't that Countryfile's slot these days?
wizzywick
12-06-2009
Originally Posted by JAS84:
“Er, hasn't Doctor Who always been on either Saturday or Monday (and Monday didn't work, in fact, it killed it, because it clashed with Coronation Street)? Saturday is it's traditional slot, the only time a new episode not starring Sylvester McCoy has been on a different day is the Xmas specials. Mulett, no-one's going to like a Sunday timeslot. Besides, isn't that Countryfile's slot these days?”


Well admittedly people would be slightly dubious at having a slot other than saturday. But mulett has a point. Regardless of when it is on, the new format is so anticipated that people would watch it on a Sunday. I remember when The Generation Game was relaunched in 1990 and they scheduled it at 8pm on a Friday night. And, to top it all they put Casualty on at 9.30 after the news on Friday's as well. People thought "Oh my God, Gen Game and Casualty on a Friday. It'll never work." However, it did work. Both shows attracted huge audiences but, nevertheless the following year, both shows were back on a Saturday.

Sometimes changing the day can add to the anticipation and increase viweing figures. Would anyone not watch Doctor Who just because it is on Sunday? No, thought not!
LooneyJetman
12-06-2009
For me, Doctor Who always worked better when it was broadcast in the autumn/winter. Maybe it was because I was much younger, but it seemed scarier when it was dark outside. To watch something like Blink in November would be much more atmospheric than in mid-May or June.

Although I don't want to wait too long for the next series, Autumn/Winter transmission might boost the ratings.
Corwin
12-06-2009
Originally Posted by JAS84:
“Er, hasn't Doctor Who always been on either Saturday or Monday (and Monday didn't work, in fact, it killed it, because it clashed with Coronation Street)? Saturday is it's traditional slot, the only time a new episode not starring Sylvester McCoy has been on a different day is the Xmas specials. Mulett, no-one's going to like a Sunday timeslot. Besides, isn't that Countryfile's slot these days?”

It's also been on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday and Friday during the Davison era

It was broadcast twice weekly, with the actual days different from season to season (Season 19 Mon/Tue, Season 20 Tue/Wed (mainly) and Season 21 Thu/Fri).
JAS84
12-06-2009
Whoops, didn't know that.
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