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Old 11-06-2009, 12:29
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Coming to this thread a little late...

My HD South Pacific also failed to record. Fortunately, I spotted the problem a couple of minutes in, so started a manual recording.

I also got a 0min recording in the root and my manual recording (about 56mins). I had the Start/Stop set to Auto and used SL.

Up to now the Beeb has been very reliable with the AR data, but recent problems have shaken my confidence. I've now abandoned AR and set manual padding at 1min before and 5mins post recording. I'll have to live with the consequences of that. Because of the known unreliability of AR by other providers, I'd always edited the end time for C4 and C5 recordings, anyway.

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Old 11-06-2009, 12:48
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I'm sorry to join this thread late, I only registered yesterday.

Can I throw a spanner into the works by saying that, unlike Graham, my recording failed although I am using AR and the recording schedule was not series linked. In the media list I have a recording of zero minutes. I was not recording anything else that evening. I think I scheduled the recording on Sunday last. I usually schedule seven days ahead on both recorders at the weekend. I have probably updated the guide since then, though.

It would appear that Graham and I have our recorders set up in the same way but we have different outcomes - the mystery deepens.

Regards, Alan

PS. Can I thank all the posters on the freesat, freesat+ and the Humax PVR forums for helping to inform my buying decisions over the last 3 years. Cheers, guys.
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Old 11-06-2009, 13:02
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I'm sorry to join this thread late, I only registered yesterday.

Can I throw a spanner into the works by saying that, unlike Graham, my recording failed although I am using AR and the recording schedule was not series linked. In the media list I have a recording of zero minutes. I was not recording anything else that evening. I think I scheduled the recording on Sunday last. I usually schedule seven days ahead on both recorders at the weekend. I have probably updated the guide since then, though.

It would appear that Graham and I have our recorders set up in the same way but we have different outcomes - the mystery deepens.

Regards, Alan

PS. Can I thank all the posters on the freesat, freesat+ and the Humax PVR forums for helping to inform my buying decisions over the last 3 years. Cheers, guys.
Alan,

Welcome to the forums.

I think your outcome can be explained by the fact that you set yours up last Sunday (when the CRID data was potentially different from the programme actually broadcast). Graham set his up on the day of the prog, and probably caught the new CRID data.

The real mystery, for me, is still mastanlem's case. It doesn't fit with all the others.

Rgds.


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Old 11-06-2009, 13:19
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Ah, thanks - I need to be thinking about AR then (I think). TBH, I've never looked into the inner (or even basic!) workings of the thing, as up until now, it's just worked. Can't blame the box for this anyway.

I'd probably better go RTFM I think.....
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Old 11-06-2009, 13:25
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Ah, thanks - I need to be thinking about AR then (I think). TBH, I've never looked into the inner (or even basic!) workings of the thing, as up until now, it's just worked. Can't blame the box for this anyway.

I'd probably better go RTFM I think.....
He He, reading your post, you do have AR at the moment, but I think you were considering Auto-Padding as a "lesser evil" (not Manual Padding).

Despite all this, I still prefer the benefits of AR.

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Old 11-06-2009, 13:42
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I'm afraid to say I'm very much a point & click user with these things. Somewhat odd maybe, given I work with broadcast tech all day long...but long ago decided to seperate work from home so avoid getting drawn into these things if at all possible.

Sometimes unavoidable it seems....

Youv'e clearly spent a fair bit of time getting your head round how the thing behaves, so if you reckon AR is best, that'll do for me - I'm old and lazy these days So, I'll leave it alone and live with the odd failure I think.

I will try reading the book some time though....

Thanks again - appreciate the advice.

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Old 11-06-2009, 14:08
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Alan,

I think your outcome can be explained by the fact that you set yours up last Sunday (when the CRID data was potentially different from the programme actually broadcast). Graham set his up on the day of the prog, and probably caught the new CRID data.

Rgds.
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Thanks, Les. Food for thought. I thought I'd give AR a chance on the Humax HDR although I have abandoned it on the 9200T in favour of auto-padding recently after too many errors by the broadcasters. I don't really want to set the recording schedule on a daily basis so I might just go to auto-padding instead, although this is the first failure I've had so far. Fortunately, I recorded South Pacific on the 9200T as insurance (in SD of course).

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Old 11-06-2009, 15:20
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Thanks, Les. Food for thought. I thought I'd give AR a chance on the Humax HDR although I have abandoned it on the 9200T in favour of auto-padding recently after too many errors by the broadcasters. I don't really want to set the recording schedule on a daily basis so I might just go to auto-padding instead, although this is the first failure I've had so far. Fortunately, I recorded South Pacific on the 9200T as insurance (in SD of course).

Regards, Alan
Alan,

You might have seen a recent thread of mine in this forum on the HDR AR Performance vs the 9xxx series. After extensive testing, the HDR has a much more accurate AR trigger performance than the 9xxx series. Far fewer Late Starts, and no Late Running/Early Termination bug, either.

Of course, it is not intelligent enough to correct when the broadcasters make a mistake (yet ). With only 1 (broadcaster) failure to your name, I'd stick with the benefits of AR on the HDR for a while to give it a chance. Although if it becomes more prevalent, then even I might give Auto-Padding a go. (Even more testing to annoy the wife with )

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Old 11-06-2009, 15:49
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Alan,

You might have seen a recent thread of mine in this forum on the HDR AR Performance vs the 9xxx series. After extensive testing, the HDR has a much more accurate AR trigger performance than the 9xxx series. Far fewer Late Starts, and no Late Running/Early Termination bug, either.

Rgds.
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Les,
It was your thread mentioned above that persuaded me to give AR a chance on the HDR. Losing the end off recent The Wire episodes was the final straw for AR on the 9200T. Trying to think positively, I'll probably continue with auto-padding on my 9200T and AR on my HDR and record programmes that are important to me on both machines. That should give me the best chance of success.

Regards, Alan
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Old 11-06-2009, 16:07
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Les,
It was your thread mentioned above that persuaded me to give AR a chance on the HDR. Losing the end off recent The Wire episodes was the final straw for AR on the 9200T. Trying to think positively, I'll probably continue with auto-padding on my 9200T and AR on my HDR and record programmes that are important to me on both machines. That should give me the best chance of success.

Regards, Alan
Yes, I record most things on both machines as a backup. Best of both worlds.

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Old 16-06-2009, 09:20
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Mine also worked. SL HD recording no padding.

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mastanlem,

I have said in this thread that your case puzzled me as it didn't fit in with the others, and is the one that is not explained by the reasoning we have gone through.

I see in this post that you say you have used padding for (at least) the last 2 weeks.

If you have used padding, then this does explain why you got South Pacific OK.

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Old 16-06-2009, 20:45
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mastanlem,

I have said in this thread that your case puzzled me as it didn't fit in with the others, and is the one that is not explained by the reasoning we have gone through.

I see in this post that you say you have used padding for (at least) the last 2 weeks.

If you have used padding, then this does explain why you got South Pacific OK.

Rgds.


Les.
Hi,

I only noticed that there was padding when I went to put padding on to try and sort out Kingdom. My husband must have done it and not told me.

There is two minutes added to the end only.

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Old 16-06-2009, 23:04
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Hi,

I only noticed that there was padding when I went to put padding on to try and sort out Kingdom. My husband must have done it and not told me.

There is two minutes added to the end only.

mastanlem
That's OK.

Thanks for confirming, my mind is at rest now, I don't like stones unturned

Rgds.

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