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Old 12-06-2009, 17:23
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Has to be hard rock/metal fans
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Old 12-06-2009, 17:26
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Elitist? Has to be Classical. Unless you meant a different term.
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Old 12-06-2009, 17:27
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From experience, I have to agree. Although people who prefer certain genres can be pretty ignorant towards other genres, but it has to be the rock, metal and "death metal" crowd who seem to hold their nose up to every other genre most.
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Old 12-06-2009, 17:59
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The 'must write your own songs and play your own instruments to be classed as a proper band' genre
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Old 12-06-2009, 18:07
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As a hard rock / metal fan myself I have to disagree, in fact it's usually the opposite. If you look at the recent "what is the worst type of music" thread, it's amazing how many people put "metal".

I often find that metal fans actually listen to more than one type of music and are quite open minded.
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Old 12-06-2009, 18:14
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The 'must write your own songs and play your own instruments to be classed as a proper band' genre
yeah, I'm the one of those and I'm proud of it
I'm pretty much fall within the category of "death/thrash/prog/doom/avantgarde metal elite"
"hard rock elite" "blues, R&B elite" etc.
And I'm damn proud of it as well
I miss the time when musicianship and creativity had a lot of meaning.... 60's, 70's oh well...
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Old 12-06-2009, 18:15
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I often find that metal fans actually listen to more than one type of music and are quite open minded.
yep, that's me as well
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Old 12-06-2009, 18:18
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yep, that's me as well
It's good to have an open mind when it comes to music, couldn't just narrow it down to one type, you'd miss out on loads of classics.

Got some 70's disco on at the moment
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Old 12-06-2009, 18:22
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I often find that metal fans actually listen to more than one type of music and are quite open minded.
I agree
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Old 12-06-2009, 18:28
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Indie.
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Old 12-06-2009, 20:24
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The 'must write your own songs and play your own instruments to be classed as a proper band' genre
That'll be me then I'm also a heavy metal/hard rock fan who also likes punk, classical, easy listening, indie and folk.
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Old 12-06-2009, 21:13
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Its got to be chavs, all they listen to is dance/rnb. If it doesnt have a girl with a helium voice or a black person rapping, they wont listen to it. Give them anything else, rock, indie, DM, classical, they will say its crap and not listen to it. Chavs are the worst by far
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Old 12-06-2009, 22:14
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That'll be me then I'm also a heavy metal/hard rock fan who also likes punk, classical, easy listening, indie and folk.
About what proportion of classical musicians play their own songs?

I don't think anyone can doubt the musicianship or skill of top classical musicians, but very few write their own music, and that's because the ability to write good music and the ability to perform that music at the top possible level are different skills.

Very few truly great singers sing only their own music, and very few of the truly great song-writers insist that only they get to perform them. At the very least, they'll be employing top session musicians to provide the accompanyment.

It doesn't make sense that people can claim to care for musicality and skill on one hand, but on the other hand, want to exclude people who are very good at just one aspect in preference of people who are "fairly good" at more than one part. And why is it OK for one person in a band to be the good singer and another one to be the good song-writer, but it's not OK when the singer is a plain old singer and the songwriter is an independently employed songwriter?
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Old 12-06-2009, 22:20
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Has to be hard rock/metal fans
Took the words out of my mouth! Well, almost. Rock fans aren't bad, and neither are metal fans. Fans of one particular genre of metal can be, though. I mean, go to the comments page below the video of any death/black metal band on Youtube. Nowhere else will you see people get so wound up over which sub-subgenre a particular band fits in, and nowhere else does it seem to matter so much.

The amount of bile they have for bands they don't like is ridiculous too, and the ampunt of bands who they classify as 'posers' is astronomical. I heard one black metal fan refer to Iron Maiden as 'mainstream sell-outs.' I mean- honestly!

To be fair though, this isn't general metal fans. This is the die-hard fans, and the people who are allergic to any music that doesn't fit their pre-determined favourite subgenre.
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Old 12-06-2009, 22:22
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i would say classical, but can see why some people think metal.

a lot of metal fans i know absolutely hate anything which is pop or rnb or whatever. i'm sure some are pretty open-minded, but not many that i know.
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Old 12-06-2009, 22:36
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Took the words out of my mouth! Well, almost. Rock fans aren't bad, and neither are metal fans. Fans of one particular genre of metal can be, though. I mean, go to the comments page below the video of any death/black metal band on Youtube. Nowhere else will you see people get so wound up over which sub-subgenre a particular band fits in, and nowhere else does it seem to matter so much.

The amount of bile they have for bands they don't like is ridiculous too, and the ampunt of bands who they classify as 'posers' is astronomical. I heard one black metal fan refer to Iron Maiden as 'mainstream sell-outs.' I mean- honestly!

To be fair though, this isn't general metal fans. This is the die-hard fans. The people who classify themselves as 'metalheads' and turn it into a lifestyle. The people who are allergic to any music that doesn't fit their pre-determined favourite subgenre.
1. But they are a little bit...
2. Don't generalise true metalheads. I was like that for ~10 years ( I mean the image, lifestyle etc) and most of my friends was/still is and most of us is very open minded people for different music - but ONE thing is certain - we don't like when music is made for the money, when is made for the wrong reasons - and it's not that hard to figure it out when the artists/bands start to create music to earn $$$ or to be more popular.
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Old 12-06-2009, 22:41
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2. Don't generalise true metalheads. I was like that for ~10 years ( I mean the image, lifestyle etc) and most of my friends was/still is and most of us is very open minded people for different music - but ONE thing is certain - we don't like when music is made for the money, when is made for the wrong reasons - and it's not that hard to figure it out when the artists/bands start to create music to earn $$$ or to be more popular.
Sorry- I think YouTube's jaded my view. To be honest though, most of the really elitish snobbery I've seen has come from metalheads. You're quite right to say that they aren't all like that, though. I never thought they were.

I'll edit my post.
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Old 12-06-2009, 22:44
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i would say classical, but can see why some people think metal.

a lot of metal fans i know absolutely hate anything which is pop or rnb or whatever. i'm sure some are pretty open-minded, but not many that i know.
well I think it's just a matter of taste, tell me for example how many people who listen most of pop/rnb like 'proper' metal music? I bet not much. Those styles just doesn't have much in common.
I dont listen to pop/rnb because it bores me to death, I dont feel anything when I hear it. It's simple as that.
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Old 12-06-2009, 22:57
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About what proportion of classical musicians play their own songs?

I don't think anyone can doubt the musicianship or skill of top classical musicians, but very few write their own music, and that's because the ability to write good music and the ability to perform that music at the top possible level are different skills.

Very few truly great singers sing only their own music, and very few of the truly great song-writers insist that only they get to perform them. At the very least, they'll be employing top session musicians to provide the accompanyment.

It doesn't make sense that people can claim to care for musicality and skill on one hand, but on the other hand, want to exclude people who are very good at just one aspect in preference of people who are "fairly good" at more than one part. And why is it OK for one person in a band to be the good singer and another one to be the good song-writer, but it's not OK when the singer is a plain old singer and the songwriter is an independently employed songwriter?
I get your point and do agree - I guess it's the ones with very little talent that I mean - manufactured acts that are chosen for their looks not talent, ones that can't sing live and have to mime to backing tracks or rely on covers already done by someone else.
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Old 12-06-2009, 22:59
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Elitist fans~Prog.
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Old 12-06-2009, 23:00
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Sorry- I think YouTube's jaded my view. To be honest though, most of the really elitish snobbery I've seen has come from metalheads. You're quite right to say that they aren't all like that, though. I never thought they were.

I'll edit my post.
oh youtube is full of metal snobs I agree I think that most of them are just teenage kids who just don't know a history of rock, don't care about the past etc. And don't listen properly...
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Old 13-06-2009, 01:53
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Has to be hard rock/metal fans
Opera, but more specifically, the proselytes of Wagner ('fans' is too trivial a word for them.)
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Old 13-06-2009, 02:07
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Jazz or Progressive Rock. Don't even go there.
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