It only recorded 1 HR 21:00 - 22:00 ignoring the +- 2 min padding meaning you can't pad ITV HD on a freesat box, if ITV gets it wrong you lose programme content. In this case there was no programme loss

Its all gone a bit screwy. I reset my Big Brother series link (to stop it recording BBLB repeat on channel 4) and discovered that Thursday, Saturdays and Sundays BB are using the shortened series link CRID form whereas Friday, Monday, Tuesday and next Wednesday are using the long form. Have sent an e-mail to channel 4.

I'd recommend everyone keeps an eye on all there channel 4 series links till things settle down.

Time for bed.

The padding at the beginning actually worked as there is 2 min of not available caption so the programme is actually only 58 mins long - no padding at end though

Graham,

My wife had set this to record, and I'm on AR.

Billed Times are 21:02-22:01. It shows up in the Media List as 59min, but only 58 mins on the "Play" bar.

So, if Auto-Padding would have added 2mins early to the EPG schedule time, I would have thought yours would have started at 20:58, and have had 4 mins "Unavailable Caption" until the HD Stream started at the time of the AR signal change at 21:02. Unless the EPG schedule changed to actually show the prog starting in the EPG at 21:02 (is this likely/unlikely?), so then your Auto-Padding would have started the recording at 21:00, and have the 2mins of caption.

What are your Billed Times, Media List length, and "Play" bar length?

I'm still thinking about the End situation, and also about why auto-padding will allow an early HD start, but manual padding removes the HD flag

Rgds.


Les.

Welcome Back Les

Barry recorded the same programme thread starting here

http://www.hummy.org.uk/forums/showp...57&postcount=6

In Media list recording says 60m

Pressing info gives

Billed Time 21:00 - 22:00
Actual Time 21:00 - 22:00

Play Bar 0.59m

Start Caption length is 1min 57sec
Last edited by grahamlthompson : 18-06-2009 at 12:48

Richard,

Sorry about my post #23, I wasn't thinking; of course you had noted the original CRIDs in your post that started it all off

I'm wondering about your Hidden CRID theory, I don't know how some of these can have recorded successfully as the CRIDs have changed through this process. I guess the difference that some have, and some haven't could be explained by when people set those timers up, or could even be further proof that those with Auto-Padding fare better than those with AR, if people have that in the mix? But the Hidden CRID data is interesting, it may explain some things if it is true. I'm sure I've read of people having successful SL recording on progs with either no Prog or Series CRID visible, or both not visible; or am I not remembering this correctly? How on earth would we find out if there is such relevant metadata, hidden from view in the Info?


This part is just a joke (not on your part ), isn't it? I suppose I'll have to check my forward C4 timers again now

Rgds.

Les.

My info is the same as Barry's, including the measured times in seconds at the start/end, so at least that is consistent using AR.

So, if Auto-Padding really only does check the EPG schedule time, then I can only assume that the EPG was updated to show the start time at 21:02, allowing your 2 mins padding to start it at 21:00. I had always thought that level of accuracy of updating the EPG was unlikely

But then, it either does not appear to have updated the EPG to reflect the new end time, or it has not applied the end padding for some reason. Again, I'm not sure which is the more likely.

Rgds.


Les.

Going to record the triple whammy on Sunday with padding- watch this space

Yes, I'll do the same, but with AR, and I know Barry is too.

With yours, you would expect it to drop the inbetween padding anyway on back-to-backs, so we need to be careful in interpreting the results.

Rgds.


Les.

Seems I was a bit hasty in my posting yesterday. When I got home all of my C4 red clock icons were totally missing and, of course, nothing from C4 had recorded prior to arriving home.
Putting it bluntly I feel this is P*ss poor as anybody who was away for holiday or business trip would have lost a lot of recordings.
Thus I simply re-requested my C4 series recordings and we will see what will happen tonight. Did anybody miss anything after re-requesting Series record on Monday? Should this happen again what is the best strategy to ensure the majority of recordings take place. Would a ticking parcel sent to C4 help?

Well, if you don't like my padding suggestion, I think your options are :-

1. If you are away for 8 days or less, set each & every programme up as individual recordings from the EPG for the forthcoming week, not series Link. Here you'll get the "benefit" of AR and schedule changes.

2. If you are away for more than 8 days, set up manual timers with the appropriate repeat options. Here you are at the mercy of schedule changes, and you can't use too much manual padding as you appear to record many back-to-backs etc, but at least you will record the majority of programmes, and the majority of the content of those programmes, if there hasn't been a major schedule shift. (But don't bank on it with Wimbledon around the corner, especially if a British player is doing well and the match overruns )

The choice, as they say, is up to you; but it really shouldn't be like this, should it?

Edit : From where you are, see if you can train a doodlebug on C4

Rgds.


Les.

What about the great British weather ???? That might help mess things up too!

I have failed in my attempt to hack the launch control at Peenemunde
, but one of my neighbours is a captain with Lufthansa .............

Poor show, time to crack out the old Enigma machine

Good luck with whatever strategy you decide to adopt for the times you are away.

Rgds.


Les.

did anyone elses 'come dine with me' not record on series link and acc/rec today?

Hi GC,

My CDwM recorded OK today.

But, to be honest, I can't remember when I reset it, I've reset it so often over the last few days, with the truncated CRIDs etc,.

Rgds.

Les.

Mine was OK too, but I did delete all C4 series links and re-request them on Wednedsay.

Something has definitely changed however. My old series link for the Simpsons used to include the T4 variety on Sunday, now it does not. Have had to make a separate request for Sundays only. Definitely under the category of could do better!

Thanks for the response Guys.. Very strange, as I mentioned I reset the schedules on Sunday after richard_g_uk alerted us to the original issue and then when I mentioned the revert back to the old crids how the box had somehow managed to keep track of the change and it recorded ok without further intervention. Then just yesterdays fail seems odd.. Could someone post who won the cash (inbetween spoiler tags of course)

I've reset mine so many times ....

And this morning, I noticed quite a few progs, inc BB for my wife, were not showing in the EPG with the record symbol, or had disappeared from the Schedule completely, so I've deleted every C4 timer, and started yet again (and on Freeview too!!)

We haven't watched this week's yet (we save them to watch in a block), but if no-one else posts who wins, I will when we have watched them.

Rgds.

Les.

Hi GC,

The last contestant, Carol, cooked Crab Cakes, followed by Lamb Stifado, with Raspberry Pavlova + Chocolate Fondue. Her Stifado recipe looked excellent, maybe worth a try, but she confused half a cup of oil, and used half a mug of oil.

The result :-



Rgds.

Les.

Thanks for that savvy I just checked the website for the Lamb Stifado recipe does look nice might give it a try sometime.. Ohh and Mrs Gas says thanks for the results too

My pleasure,

Mrs savvy definitely says she is going to cook me that that Lamb Stifado, minus the extra oil - can't wait !!

Rgds.

Les.

Had a response from Channel 4 to say that it had been passed on to the engineering department (I also directed them to this thread). I had another response saying that the series links has all been fixed - which I replied to stating that the BB for Saturday and Sunday nights were still showing truncated ID's.

A quick look at my timers for next week seem to show that they have reverted to the original long CRID on all the programs I looked at.

Warning for today though - BB channel 4 9PM still wrong and Alan Carr's chat show still using the truncated CRID however next sundays has reverted to the long format so this will need resetting after tonight.

Fingers x - After today they may have all the linking sorted.

Savvy,

As a man who spends a great deal of time in Greece I can say don't cut back on the oil, especially in Stifado, just make it with a good olive oil (good doesn't have to mean expensive). Never did the Greeks any harm and add with that a nice tomato+cucumber salad with oil and salt to make it even healthier.

Bob

Oh go on then. (see how easy I give into temptation )

I agree, I do like a good olive oil, but Mrs savvy is trying to watch my weight for me

I spent a lot of time in Greece, too. I had a software development team located just outside Athens, so had to visit them quite frequently. I had some amazing food with the locals, and loved it all.

Rgds.


Les.

Posted the results of the Sunday recordings here as it's a bit off topic for this thread

http://www.hummy.org.uk/forums/showp...5&postcount=15