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Arlene is sacked
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Angela
18-06-2009
Originally Posted by Loueez:
“I would much rather see Karen taking over if anyone, she certainly has the credentials.... However, appreciating that I may be in the minority, I like Strictly the way it is, warts, judges & all!”

I completely agree, and I like SCD the way it is too...
mintchocchip
18-06-2009
Originally Posted by tangos_with_tim:
“Unfortunately, Karen is probably not high profile enough to appeal to the general public who haven't watched Strictly before. If this rumour is true then it is probably because the BBC want the pull of a big name like Alesha to encourage people to watch.”

I think you're right.

Originally Posted by Loueez:
“I would much rather see Karen taking over if anyone, she certainly has the credentials.... However, appreciating that I may be in the minority, I like Strictly the way it is, warts, judges & all!
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Totally agree, I think most viewers like it the way it is.
rated_2000
18-06-2009
i dont see a reason why the judges need to change, they should replace bruce with john barroman if they wanna give the show a younger vibe and have more younger celebs and more younger pro's
sazzleperkins
18-06-2009
Originally Posted by rated_2000:
“the video is on sky news web site”

Thanks Rated - I can't get Sky here at work so I'll have to have a nose at home sometime.
hiua6c
18-06-2009
Could you have a pro that's been on the show taking over as a judge though? Seeing as they've danced with/competed against/been engaged to some of the other pros?

Could Camilla for example judge Ian/Brendan without any personal bias.

Same if Flavia was to judge Vincent or Anton judging Erin.

I'm sure they would be strictly (no pun intended) professional but you would always have that underlying question if a dance got more marks from that judge than you thought it should and we all know what happens on DS when that occurs.
Fairygirl
18-06-2009
No one has actually said Arlene is sacked........and it is all speculation at this stage

But no one denying the reports is suspicious

I always thought Alesha would eventually have some permanent role with SCD,maybe involved with ITT/ backstage stuff or presenting on the main show.
.........and this would only be if/when her music career start's to decline.

Alesha as a judge is a bit out of left field for me and you've got to think of her judging pro's like Matt C and Ian.......for one they are her friend's and quite obviously very talented pro dancers,Alesha does not come from a background of professional Ballroom/Latin dancing........

I'm still tending to think her role won't be as a judge
boddism
18-06-2009
Originally Posted by rated_2000:
“i just watched the video of alesha answering the question and she looked "guilty" to me, so i think there may be some truth in the rumour”


maybe shes trying to re-negotiate those 3 Saturdays in Oct/Nov- so that might explain the evasiveness??

Much as I like her I DO NOT think she's be suitable as a judge...
claire2281
18-06-2009
Originally Posted by rated_2000:
“i dont see a reason why the judges need to change, they should replace bruce with john barroman if they wanna give the show a younger vibe and have more younger celebs and more younger pro's”

Only if they want people to stop watching.

He's too irritating for some and I think they may hurt the show.

As for Alesha - I could really see her judging for performance but only if the other judges were ballroom experts and marking the technical. As they aren't her role seems unnecessary.
Puffle
18-06-2009
For the love of god NO!!!!!! As much as many of the forumites love her many of us don't and it would certainly ruin a great show - Have the BBC never heard of the saying "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"? Clearly with the ratings it's getting it isn't broke so why on earth do they need to change it?

They need someone who is going to be unbiased and actually has some idea of what they're talking about. If they're that desperate to get the younger audience in, why not hire the choreographer from Diversity (or flawless comes to that) and replace one of the others with a female judge. I cannot believe there are no younger either pro dancers or female judges out there who wouldn't bite the arm off the BBC for this chance.
tangos_with_tim
18-06-2009
Originally Posted by Fairygirl:
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I always thought Alesha would eventually have some permanent role with SCD,maybe involved with ITT/ backstage stuff or presenting on the main show.

I'm still tending to think her role won't be as a judge ”

I also got that impression Fairygirl, especially the way she talks about being part of the Strictly family.

But maybe it isn't decided yet?

I wonder if Brucie and Tess are still undecided whether to accept their paycuts or leave, which could create an opening for Alesha presenting (which I would prefer over judging).
tangos_with_tim
18-06-2009
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“Only if they want people to stop watching.

He's too irritating for some and I think they may hurt the show.
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I've got to agree, John Barrowman would kill it for me!

Lots of people have mentionned Gethin as a Brucie replacement, and I think he could be a good choice.

Actually, I'd like to see Gethin and Alesha presenting!
Fairygirl
18-06-2009
Originally Posted by tangos_with_tim:
“I've got to agree, John Barrowman would kill it for me!

Lots of people have mentionned Gethin as a Brucie replacement, and I think he could be a good choice.

Actually, I'd like to see Gethin and Alesha presenting!”

No way on earth John Barrowman ,the one time he was on ITT with Alesha even she couldn't get a word in,it's not all about him

Great "call" for Gethin and Alesha
laineythenomad
18-06-2009
Originally Posted by Tilly W:
“but why Alesha in Arlene's place???
Alesha wasnt even a great dancer better at ballroom didnt like her latin at all. It would make more sense putting a pro dancer their instead”

I agree. What sort of judge would Alesha make anyway? I can imagine her jumping up and down and cackling maniacally throughout - regardless of whether she thinks the dance is any good
claire2281
18-06-2009
Originally Posted by tangos_with_tim:
“I've got to agree, John Barrowman would kill it for me!

Lots of people have mentionned Gethin as a Brucie replacement, and I think he could be a good choice.

Actually, I'd like to see Gethin and Alesha presenting!”

I do think Gethin would do it well although I also have a soft spot for Aled as a presenter. I think he'd fit the ethos of the show quite well.
rated_2000
18-06-2009
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“Only if they want people to stop watching.

He's too irritating for some and I think they may hurt the show.

As for Alesha - I could really see her judging for performance but only if the other judges were ballroom experts and marking the technical. As they aren't her role seems unnecessary.”

u make a good point,if it was made clear that alesha was judging purely the "performance aspect" then it could work actually, but she would not have any say on technical issues at all!

ummmmm interesting!
Strictly_Irish
18-06-2009
Originally Posted by Eviesmum:
“Alesha's just been on GMTV and Andrew asked her outright about it. She didn't answer either way, she was really vague, but she did clarify that her tour starts in October.

Seems like a lovely girl though.”

Being a lovely girl doesn't qualify you to judge ballroom and latin dancing that you've no proper training in.

I hope very much that she won't be a judge. Camilla would be great though!
rated_2000
18-06-2009
Originally Posted by Fairygirl:
“No way on earth John Barrowman ,the one time he was on ITT with Alesha even she couldn't get a word in,it's not all about him

Great "call" for Gethin and Alesha ”

i used to think barroman was a complete T W A T but he presented that saturday night show live for 6 weeks or so a few weeks back and i thought he was very good my opinion changed of him
Servalan
18-06-2009
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Pretty silly if true. The show's big problem is with the voters voting for any pretty male and anyone who the judges point out is bad. Its becoming impossible to get the people who dance well to where they should get to - which undermines the whole show as it means the judges are ignored and the celebrities may as well not bother doing well.”

Another dissenter here, I'm afraid

You rather oversimplify the public's preferences. What many people forget is that Strictly isn't just a dance competition - even though many people might like it to be. Like all reality shows, it is also about personality. That helped Alesha win - ditto Mark, Tom, Jill, Darren and Natasha. And that personality is inextricably linked to the other crucial factor: showmanship. The judges may get themselves in a lather about technicalities like heel turns and chassis, but they mean nothing to the general public. They'd rather watch a great performance from a contestant who appears to be loving what they're doing than someone who is obsessed with mastering minute technicalities and takes it very seriously.

If this rumour is true, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. I certainly think the judges' panel needs refreshing - there was some appalling favouritism last year. Arlene's behaviour sunk to a new low - lying about the dance history of her own favourite to promote them above others. The public vote last year was a deliberate snub to the judges after the excesses of Sergeant-gate and the best way of ensuring no repeat performance is to change the panel.

Although I would personally prefer Karen on the juding panel and Alesha co-hosting with the gorgeous Gethin ...
saucy sal
18-06-2009
Originally Posted by tangos_with_tim:
“I wonder if Brucie and Tess are still undecided whether to accept their paycuts or leave, which could create an opening for Alesha presenting (which I would prefer over judging).”

I think Alesha would make a fantastic presenter, much better than Tess! Her being a judge is a ridiculous idea though, they'd be much better off getting one of the pro's to fill that role.

Also, much as I can't stand Arlene, it doesn't seem fair that she's being replaced due to her age while Len and Brucie get to stay If they're going to start kicking people off because they're too old, it shouldn't be done in such a sexist way.
rated_2000
18-06-2009
i think arlenes atitude to john seargent last year has made her an easy target to sack!

i think the show does need freshening up though it was getting tedius last year!

i would like bruce and tess gone, and at least 1 new judge and some new pro's
footygirl
18-06-2009
O.K so if Arlene is on her bike so to speak Then

Karen is dancing on the new series. So that's Karen out of the equation. And Alesha has a tour to do

Think beack to when Camilla revealed that she wouldn't be doing Strictly as a dancer- that may have been a hint that something was in the air for her

She knows ballroom & latin- plus is a good choreographer- and I don't think she'd give tens out like sweeties
katmobile
18-06-2009
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“O.K so if Arlene is on her bike so to speak Then

Karen is dancing on the new series. So that's Karen out of the equation. And Alesha has a tour to do

Think beack to when Camilla revealed that she wouldn't be doing Strictly as a dancer- that may have been a hint that something was in the air for her

She knows ballroom & latin- plus is a good choreographer- and I don't think she'd give tens out like sweeties”

Just out of interest where does the info about Karen coming back come from? She seemed to be a bit dubious about it last year (having Gary Rhodes as a partner will do that I suspect).

I do think Camilla will be a good replacement but due to the fact she dances professionally with Ian, is mates with a lot of the other Strictly pros (especially Lilia whom she says is her best mate on the show) and used to engaged to Brendan - will she be seen to be impartial if she is?
FlaviaCacake
18-06-2009
I hope this is true. I cant stand Arlene she talks a load of nonsense.
footygirl
18-06-2009
Originally Posted by katmobile:
“Just out of interest where does the info about Karen coming back come from? She seemed to be a bit dubious about it last year (having Gary Rhodes as a partner will do that I suspect).

I do think Camilla will be a good replacement but due to the fact she dances professionally with Ian, is mates with a lot of the other Strictly pros (especially Lilia whom she says is her best mate on the show) and used to engaged to Brendan - will she be seen to be impartial if she is?”



I think Camilla would have discussed it with the other professionals- and seen what they would think. If anything she'd be a "pros judge". She's been with the show since the start.

The information re Karen has been given to me-she apparently has told her salsa classes that she is back on the floor in September
cynical viewer
18-06-2009
I wonder if there's another reason the diversity conscious BBC want A.D. on TV?
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