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Arlene is sacked
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BuddyBontheNet
18-06-2009
I think it is just another tabloid rumour, but I wouldn't be surprised if Arlene is leaving SCD of her own accord as she said in an interview last series that she had the option to do a big show in the USA in 2009 (Len and Bruno have both mentioned this as well).

I don't think for one minute that Alesha will be replacing any judge and if there were to be a new judge my choice would be Karen for her expertise as a dancer and as a judge.
pasodabble
18-06-2009
Hmm... unlike previous rumours, Alesha and the BBC's non committal statements concerns me. Was Alesha scheduled to be on GMTV? And why has the story made it to the BBC's own website?

I won't repeat what's already been said, but I really hope this isn't true I can live with Arlene - I find Len the most annoying judge and he's the one I'd replace. The show doesn't need another "man on the Clapham omnibus" type judge; Bruno already serves that purpose.

I agree with most of Cuddlyhippo's post, especially the bits in bold:

Originally Posted by Cuddlyhippo:
“I’m just a SCD fan and have no experience at all in respect to the world of ballroom and latin. However as much as I love Alesha (I was one of her newer fans after Strictly), I absolutely agree that her replacing Arlene (and I can't stand the woman) would be TERRIBLY WRONG.

Since winning Strictly Alesha has made some smart moves by not rushing to accept anything and everything offered to her but has instead concentrated on her music and charity work with the odd bit of presenting.

I fear if she takes on this role her hard earned respect and popularity will suffer a backlash.
Comments to some of the news stories have already started talking about her becoming over-exposed and there have been some comparisons between her and Mylene Klass. They may not be to everyone’s cup a tea, but there are many out there who seem to have a problem with likeable, down to earth, well-spoken, talented and beautiful women.

As much as Strictly is an entertainment programme, it is also about the dancing too.

Does the BBC not realise that some viewers like me actually dislike the genre of reality TV, but enjoy watching SCD because it’s not just about somebody trying to get on TV because they want to be famous. Ok some of the Celebs may well be trying to bolster their flagging careers but in order to do that they have to work at it by learning a skill and being put through their paces by an expert in that field (the same reason why I loved C4’s The Games), and judging by the hours of training some of them do, it’s not an easy task.

I know that the BBC are trying to win the ratings war against X Factor but stay credible by doing it with somebody who has knowledge and experience in that field. Don’t do it just for the sake of it.

I’d hate to see any of the current Pro line up go, but I also understand why they would want to refresh the format slightly as we’ve had the same judges and presenters since it started and apart from Brian and Kristina, who were additions, and Hayley who replaced Nicole, the rest of the line up has been the same for the past 3 series.

If they are to replace Arlene and want a female presence in the judging line up, I think that they would be better off having somebody else with technical dance knowledge. But does that replacement really have to be well-known? After all neither Bruno nor Craig were well known until Strictly.

I think having another person who is well respected in the ‘dance’ world either as a judge or former pro would even out the balance between performance and technicality after all its well known that Arlene, Bruno and Craig’s background are from theatre and therefore they tend to judge more on performance, whereas Len has been a judge in the dance world and looks more at the technical aspect.

I also think it’s too soon to have Camilla on as a judge plus I fear her judgement maybe clouded by her professional and personal relationships with the other pros,
and now that its been talked about that Karen’s dancing in the next series, perhaps they could consider one of the female pros from the first 3 series who have since left, even Nicole, (although highly unlikely) or perhaps even that lady (don’t know her name) who provided the expert commentary with Philip Jackson for the SCD 5 Finals.

Like many of you, I'd much rather see Alesha back presenting than judging.”

katie_p
18-06-2009
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“So that would imply that Camilla is the new judge. Plus - how many times has Camilla when she has been on TV on various shows said she would not be doing the new series of Strictly as a dancer”

It's not as if she's giving us some cryptic message, she blatantly came out and said she'd like to be a judge when she announced she was quitting, and that didn't seem to be anything more than her saying she'd do it if they asked her.

I don't see why it wouldn't have emerged in this story that Camilla was to be the new judge if that was the case. Maybe it will happen, but it doesn't seem to be the BBC's agenda.
Monkseal
18-06-2009
Part of me thinks this is just fake rumour shenanigans because all the conversation about the stupid "rumoured celebrities" who pop up every year about this time, who are clearly never going to do the show, has started to dry up already.

Also the "Len is going to leave to do Dancing With The Stars full time" rumour has been round the block so many times that nobody cares about it any more.

I mean it's all a bit ITV (Oh NO LOUIS HAS QUIT! Oh wait he hasn't... KELLY BROOK TO BE A NEW JUDGE! Oh wait she isn't...) but I'd rather that then they actually get rid of Arlene and replace her with Alesha who I love, but has no clue and will get annoying fast.
Fairygirl
18-06-2009
Originally Posted by xMadMumx:
“And why would Alesha want to do it? It won't further her pop career in any way. Whatever the BBC might think, I really don't believe that the Strictly audience is the same as the X Factor audience, and replacing one female judge with a newer model will not have X Factor viewers defecting in their thousands!”

..........because she loves the show and is very fond of/considers as friends some of the people that work on it ??

Alesha has said that she always loved SCD and considered it the only "reality" show she would ever do.

I've just watched the GMTV interview from this morning and i've watched Alesha in a lot of interviews,she's very straight forward normally.......it would have been the easiest thing in the world for her to deny this story when Andrew Castle asked her about it but she just said something about if it's in the papers it must be true.

I'm still thinking there is some SCD role being planned out for her but it's not finalised yet........and i still can't get my head around a "judging" role,i can only think it would be at all credible if it was just based on the celeb's performance,no way can Alesha comment on the Pro's,the choreography of a dance or the detailed technical aspect's.

The "story" has also been on the BBC's news E24 tonight so why would it be on there if there wasn't some truth to it ??.

Alesha was on GMTV this morning to promote her being at Wimbledon next week....she's challenging members of the public to a 1 minute game to promote Wimbledon,tennis etc etc.

I do also share Cuddlyhip's concerns that if Alesha has accepted a judging role there could be some sort of backlash............if she has (accepted it i mean) i'd be very careful who or what i agreed to comment on........
BuddyBontheNet
18-06-2009
I can't see Alesha spending all this time building up her singing career only to cancel her Saturday tour dates to be a judge on SCD!
Ignazio
18-06-2009
I seem to be in the minority - although Arlene could make me cringe with her alliteration and her drooling over some of the male celebs, I did think her assessments and advice were sound. Her criticism was constructive and her suggestions to take ballet/drama classes often paid off.

Perhaps it was her decision - personally I would have preferred to see Len or Bruno bite the dust.

As for Alesha replacing her - please tell me someone is having a laugh.
Angela
18-06-2009
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“I seem to be in the minority - although Arlene could make me cringe with her alliteration and her drooling over some of the male celebs, I did think her assessments and advice were sound. Her criticism was constructive and her suggestions to take ballet/drama classes often paid off.

Perhaps it was her decision - personally I would have preferred to see Len or Bruno bite the dust.

As for Alesha replacing her - please tell me someone is having a laugh.”

You are not the only one, I agree fully with every word you wrote there! Not only on Arlene, also the Len or Bruno bit..
xMadMumx
18-06-2009
Quote:
“..........because she loves the show and is very fond of/considers as friends some of the people that work on it ??”

Agree Fairygirl - I don't doubt she'd be very comfortable working with the SCD gang again in whatever capacity - I just think career-wise it would be a curious detour now she's successfully relaunched a solo singing career!

Quote:
“I can't see Alesha spending all this time building up her singing career only to cancel her Saturday tour dates to be a judge on SCD!”

Me neither!

Anyway - probably just another smoke and mirrors routine, when really Sharon Osbourne has been drafted in as Arlene's replacement.....
soulmate61
18-06-2009
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
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As for Alesha replacing her - please tell me someone is having a laugh.”

You wait till Alesha has a laugh.
Ignazio
18-06-2009
Originally Posted by soulmate61:
“You wait till Alesha has a laugh. ”

She's a lovely lady - but that laugh!!!

I don't even want to think about it.
square_eyes
19-06-2009
Well the follow up article in The Sun says that Alesha Dixon could sign 'within days', so she'd better get cancelling those tour dates.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...e-in-days.html
Larkenn
19-06-2009
Glad Arlene is gone but she shouldnt be replaced by Alesha. What does she know about ballroom dancing bar the short experience she had on strictly. The show will lose all credibility if pretty young women with no clue come in to judge. If a new female judge is needed then it should go to Karen Hardy first. She is afterall a judge in her own right and would make a fantastic addition to the team. Im not particularly fond of Alesha, she is far to annoying.
marvola45
19-06-2009
If Karen Hardy got the role, they'd have to either extend the show by half an hour or cut all the dances short.
Dan Sette
19-06-2009
Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“Well the follow up article in The Sun says that Alesha Dixon could sign 'within days', so she'd better get cancelling those tour dates. ”

In fairness only two dates would need to be cancelled. And there is plenty of room in the tour schedule to enable her to do so.

Otherwise the comments on GMTV would have been "of course I'm not being a judge on SCD, my tour starts on ......"

A plausible explanation of her being evasive could mean that she was being sounded out and she was unsure whether to let the cat out of the bag to:-
a) prevent scuppering the discussions
b) confirm the hopes / fears of the fans of SCD
c) alerting the tour promoters who expect her to turn up on 31/10 and 7/11.
tangos_with_tim
19-06-2009
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-sto...5875-21453121/

Just saw this on Greytop's thread, Tess has said she is signed up for the next 2 series

There go my hopes of Gethin and Alesha presenting
SideshowStu
19-06-2009
The more I think about the possibilty of Alesha being a judge the more farcical the idea seems...Her technical knowledge is minimal as is her latin / ballroom experience, so what would she be there for? eye candy? What constructive criticism could she give of the celebs and their pro partners beyond generalised comments that any regular SCD fan could give?

...and if Alesha can be a judge, why not Goughie or Ramps, Jill Halfpenny or Cherie Lunghi or even Kate Garroway? I remember Arlene once saying that the judges were there to give the show credibility, but I'm afraid if Alesha joined the panel that would go out of the window at the same time.
footygirl
19-06-2009
I like Alesha but I don't want her as a judge.

She doesn't have the necessary experience in dancing. It should be someone who has competed in dancing as an amateur and a professional. Alesha hasn't done that

There are already two performance judges. One more and the panel would look lopsided.

Another dance background judge is needed to bring some balance to the judging panel.

And only two ladies fit the criteria- Karen Hardy or Camilla Dallerup.

Please Alesha don't do it- you'll regret it

And if the PTB are determined to go down the eye candy/Cheryl Cole route they will lose a lot of viewers. And into the bargain they are treating women in a negative way
SideshowStu
19-06-2009
The point is that whether it was Karen, Camilla or anyone else from the dance world you'd know that their opinion was based on their considerable knowledge and experience, whether you agreed with them or not or whether you liked them or not...

I'm just not keen on the idea of having someone who barely knows more than I do in the job for what would appear to be cosmetic purposes.
footygirl
19-06-2009
I agree Stu- if the PTB want to keep it in the SCD family then surely Karen or Camilla should come before Alesha in considering who to offer the judges job too.

They probably have forgotten more about latin/ballroom than most of us know
kaycee
19-06-2009
I'm not sure Arlene was sacked, as such; she mentioned before last years show that she wouldn't be doing many more as she has other commitments, so it is possible she is leaving of her own free will.

Alesha as a judge - NO WAY! She managed to learn routines to the extent she could dance round the floor with a professional partner, but that doesn't mean she knows a thing about ballroom and Latin dancing. And that irritating cackle of hers would drive me to distraction far more than Arlene's acid tongue!

I really hope that they can find someone in the Ballroom/Latin world to come in as judge. At the moment Len is often the odd-one-out because he knows how things should be done, which sometimes makes him at complete odds with the other 3 judges, although Craig knows more than Arlene & Bruno.

Along with Arlene, please ditch Bruno...... he's a total pain, and a complete idiot.
SideshowStu
19-06-2009
Has there been a single positive post as to the idea of Alesha being a Strictly judge? If even her more ardent fans have misgivings about the idea what is everyone else going to think? Alesha is a good singer and a promising presenter imo but I do feel that if she took the judges role it could turn out to be a poisoned chalice.
nancy1975
19-06-2009
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“I seem to be in the minority - although Arlene could make me cringe with her alliteration and her drooling over some of the male celebs, I did think her assessments and advice were sound. Her criticism was constructive and her suggestions to take ballet/drama classes often paid off.

Perhaps it was her decision - personally I would have preferred to see Len or Bruno bite the dust.

As for Alesha replacing her - please tell me someone is having a laugh.”

Just come back from holiday and now I wish I could get away again come the autumn.

Agree with all you say, unfortunately in the Mail as well today so seems to be more to it than the usual bored column filling rubbish in a tabloid. I hope fervently it won't be true. For me Alesha's irritant factor is off the scale, it starts as soon as she opens her mouth, never mind laughs, and she couldn't say anything more pertinent than any fan on here who probably knows about as much about technique as she does.

Looks like the mute button is going to be heavily used. Am starting to ponder glumly whether the negatives of SCD are fast outweighing any plusses.

I would have been overjoyed to see the back of Len at least and Karen to replace him for the technical side of judging.
The_abbott
19-06-2009
So Arlene is sacked.

Alesha comes in (yet no dance background)

Tess signs up for 2 more years even though shes as wooden as the judges desk

and they still have not fired Bruno who talks constant BS all the time!
nancy1975
19-06-2009
Originally Posted by The_abbott:
“So Arlene is sacked.

Alesha comes in (yet no dance background)

Tess signs up for 2 more years even though shes as wooden as the judges desk

and they still have not fired Bruno who talks constant BS all the time!”

Shaping up to be a cracking series.

Arlene drove me up the wall last year like all of them though certainly to a lesser degree than Len but I don't want her to go to be replaced by somebody who knows nothing. If she was to be replaced by another dance professional, OK.

I also agree with many on here that the ideal replacement for Bruce (I don't mind Bruce there as long as he wants to do it) is Gethin. He's personable, a TV natural, young, good looking and women of all ages adore him and men like him. He would have the perfect balance of serious and humour presenting and I hope he's given the chance in the future.
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