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Timothy Dalton's Character is Going to be... [potential spoilers]
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davrosdodebird
22-06-2009
Spoiler
Some Kind of intergalactic judge?
Omega?
something else?


these are the current rumours that have reached my ear.
Speculate
stcoop
22-06-2009
Oh dear.

I suspect that there are going to be lots of people who didn't want to know that he's appearing.

Better duck and cover...
tombaland
22-06-2009
haha,

oh come on, if people really wanted to stay spolier free they wouldnt visit a doctor who forum.

more! more!
lordOfTime
22-06-2009
Originally Posted by tombaland:
“haha,

oh come on, if people really wanted to stay spolier free they wouldnt visit a doctor who forum.

more! more!”

Erm.... I don't think that's true. People have a right to come and visit these forums and not have to be spoiled if they don't wish to be!
be more pacific
22-06-2009
Originally Posted by stcoop:
“Oh dear.

I suspect that there are going to be lots of people who didn't want to know that he's appearing.

Better duck and cover...”

Originally Posted by lordOfTime:
“Erm.... I don't think that's true. People have a right to come and visit these forums and not have to be spoiled if they don't wish to be! ”

Spoiled? Timothy Dalton is a MASSIVE guest star for a British television series. There is no way his appearance won't be plastered all over the media long before the episodes air.
stcoop
22-06-2009
Originally Posted by be more pacific:
“Spoiled? Timothy Dalton is a MASSIVE guest star for a British television series. There is no way his appearance won't be plastered all over the media long before the episodes air.”

In December.

It's June now.
be more pacific
22-06-2009
Originally Posted by stcoop:
“In December.

It's June now.”

So you're not happy because the inevitable spoiler has been spoiled too soon?
tombaland
22-06-2009
its hardly a spoiler in the true sense of the word to know that Timothy Dalton is in the specials

its just a fact of casting,

'oooh the episode is directed by graeme harper' (or whoever) spoiler!
darthbibble
22-06-2009
Originally Posted by be more pacific:
“Spoiled? Timothy Dalton is a MASSIVE guest star for a British television series. There is no way his appearance won't be plastered all over the media long before the episodes air.”

It's not impossible that he would have been revealed at the end of Waters Of Mars and then had his appearance splashed all over the media between then and the final two.
mighty thor
22-06-2009
Other thoughts. He could be:

Spoiler
Rassilon


or maybe even

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the doctor - an alternative regeneration to Matt Smith and the two alter-egos have to do battle with each other. Would mean that Dalton has done the Doctor/Bond double!
be more pacific
22-06-2009
Originally Posted by tombaland:
“its hardly a spoiler in the true sense of the word to know that Timothy Dalton is in the specials

its just a fact of casting,

'oooh the episode is directed by graeme harper' (or whoever) spoiler!”

Exactly. The casting of Timothy Dalton is not a spoiler in any way, shape or form. We don't know who Dalton is playing and he has never appeared in Doctor Who before.
darthbibble
22-06-2009
Originally Posted by be more pacific:
“Exactly. The casting of Timothy Dalton is not a spoiler in any way, shape or form. We don't know who Dalton is playing and he has never appeared in Doctor Who before.”

I would beg to differ

"A post to a newsgroup that divulges information intended to be a surprise"


A spoiler is a spoiler if intended to be secret. It is not limited to the plot.
crazzyaz7
22-06-2009
Originally Posted by darthbibble:
“I would beg to differ

"A post to a newsgroup that divulges information intended to be a surprise"


A spoiler is a spoiler if intended to be secret. It is not limited to the plot.”

And the fact that they haven't officially confirmed it by the BBC....proves that such a big star appearing in a show like DW is a blooming huge spoiler!!!!!! And one that those who have managed to avoid it so far...ie those who don't also read the scummy newspapers (I only know as my google mail gets bombareded by links from these papers as I have Doctor Who news on alert).....would have had a nice suprise......


Listening to DT and CT on the radio quite sometime back when they stood in for Ross....they seemed as if they wanted to keep CT's appearance a secret, but unable to as they had outside shootings to do.....so I wouldn't be suprised that they were also very keen to keep such a big star as Dalton hidden as long as possible......
Blue Angel
22-06-2009
The topic has been covered in a lot of the media, Timothy Dalton's presence is hardly a secret. As for what he may or may not be doing - well, speculation can be fun while we wait!
LASTLY- I love this forum but why could I practically hear the voice of 'Comic Book Guy ' from the Simpsons in almost every one of these posts?
*Cocks an ear at the sound of passing trains, grabs note book, adjusts anorak*
NewbieCanuck
22-06-2009
I say he's playing the Rani or Sally Sparrow's father.
davros's chair
22-06-2009
Originally Posted by tombaland:
“its hardly a spoiler in the true sense of the word to know that Timothy Dalton is in the specials

its just a fact of casting,

'oooh the episode is directed by graeme harper' (or whoever) spoiler!”

Exactly. It's not like it gives any of the story away. There's no need for anyone to get their knickers in a twist simply because they know he's in it.

Out of interest, those of think it is a spoiler, what exactly does this spoil for you? I mean how does knowing he is in it (with no other detail) specifically limit your enjoyment upon seeing the episode?
nyingy
22-06-2009
Originally Posted by davros's chair:
“Exactly. It's not like it gives any of the story away. There's no need for anyone to get their knickers in a twist simply because they know he's in it.

Out of interest, those of think it is a spoiler, what exactly does this spoil for you? I mean how does knowing he is in it (with no other detail) specifically limit your enjoyment upon seeing the episode?”

What if Timothy Dalton is actually playing
Spoiler
Timothy Dalton
in the show?

What if he brings about the Doctor's regeneration by
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tasting of a pear
?

I call shenanigans!



nyingy
davros's chair
22-06-2009
Touche!
crazzyaz7
23-06-2009
Originally Posted by davros's chair:
“Exactly. It's not like it gives any of the story away. There's no need for anyone to get their knickers in a twist simply because they know he's in it.

Out of interest, those of think it is a spoiler, what exactly does this spoil for you? I mean how does knowing he is in it (with no other detail) specifically limit your enjoyment upon seeing the episode?”

Well as I pointed out.....the fact that the BBC or the DW team haven't officially confirmed it, probably means that they wanted it to be a suprise....I know for a fact if I wasn't so spoiler mad....this would have made me feel so at seeing him.....maybe in the trailer at the end of TWOM.....

I guess its a bit like not knowing that Rose was in PIC...and I think if it hadn't been for the filming that had been captured by fans....I doubt they would have said anything at all regarding Billie being back in series 4....
tombaland
23-06-2009
Originally Posted by crazzyaz7:
“Well as I pointed out.....the fact that the BBC or the DW team haven't officially confirmed it, probably means that they wanted it to be a suprise....I know for a fact if I wasn't so spoiler mad....this would have made me feel so at seeing him.....maybe in the trailer at the end of TWOM.....

I guess its a bit like not knowing that Rose was in PIC...and I think if it hadn't been for the filming that had been captured by fans....I doubt they would have said anything at all regarding Billie being back in series 4....”

no its nothing 1ike rose being in pic

rose was an estab1ished character and had associated baggage,,,it automatic1y meant something to fans of the show to know she was returning

the casting of td means nothing unti1 we know who, what, where and why he is in the episodes and so is not a spoi1er

i dont rea11y think the casting of the second 1east popu1ar bond is earth shattering news, 1ets just wait and see what he';s in the show for, thats spoi1ers
be more pacific
23-06-2009
Originally Posted by crazzyaz7:
“Well as I pointed out.....the fact that the BBC or the DW team haven't officially confirmed it, probably means that they wanted it to be a suprise....I know for a fact if I wasn't so spoiler mad....this would have made me feel so at seeing him.....maybe in the trailer at the end of TWOM.....

I guess its a bit like not knowing that Rose was in PIC...and I think if it hadn't been for the filming that had been captured by fans....I doubt they would have said anything at all regarding Billie being back in series 4....”

The return of a major character such as Rose Tyler is obviously a spoiler. The casting of an actor with no detail whatsoever about his character* is not a spoiler. You would literally have to live in a cave to avoid all mention of Timothy Dalton's casting until the trailer at the end of The Waters of Mars airs.









*Although Mr Dalton has been seen in a very interesting costume.
crazzyaz7
23-06-2009
Originally Posted by tombaland:
“no its nothing 1ike rose being in pic

rose was an estab1ished character and had associated baggage,,,it automatic1y meant something to fans of the show to know she was returning

the casting of td means nothing unti1 we know who, what, where and why he is in the episodes and so is not a spoi1er

i dont rea11y think the casting of the second 1east popu1ar bond is earth shattering news, 1ets just wait and see what he';s in the show for, thats spoi1ers”

I don't mean in terms of character, as your right, I and others don't know who he is playing....however those that have seen the photo....will know that it is a very intriguing if nothing else....

What I mean is that shock moment.....as I said, there must be a reason to why they haven't released any conformation unlike they have for Bernard Cribbins, Lindsay Duncan, June Whitfield ...and so fourth.....who are equally as good (or even better) actors....same with John Simm, who if people are trying to avoid, will now know for sure that the Master is back in some form or another....some people like suprises...so do I...but I am weak...so I am not saying don't spoil it for me...but just those who have somehow managed to avoid it....brave souls!!!!
Analysethis
23-06-2009
If you sit an infinite number of monkeys at an infinite number of typewriters, they will eventually type the name of Timothy Dalton's character.

Or, in this case, an finite number of forum users at a finite number of computers with a seemingly infinite amount of free time, but it's pretty much the same thing. It's impossible for anyone to condemn such wild unfounded speculation because occasionally someone gets it right and screams how right they are.

Have fun with your speculating, but don't expect any bananas from me
tombaland
23-06-2009
Originally Posted by crazzyaz7:
“I don't mean in terms of character, as your right, I and others don't know who he is playing....however those that have seen the photo....will know that it is a very intriguing if nothing else....

What I mean is that shock moment.....as I said, there must be a reason to why they haven't released any conformation unlike they have for Bernard Cribbins, Lindsay Duncan, June Whitfield ...and so fourth.....who are equally as good (or even better) actors....same with John Simm, who if people are trying to avoid, will now know for sure that the Master is back in some form or another....some people like suprises...so do I...but I am weak...so I am not saying don't spoil it for me...but just those who have somehow managed to avoid it....brave souls!!!!”

now now crazzy, spe11ing is everything on this forum

i know the irony!
crazzyaz7
23-06-2009
Originally Posted by be more pacific:
“The return of a major character such as Rose Tyler is obviously a spoiler. The casting of an actor with no detail whatsoever about his character* is not a spoiler. You would literally have to live in a cave to avoid all mention of Timothy Dalton's casting until the trailer at the end of The Waters of Mars airs.









*Although Mr Dalton has been seen in a very interesting costume.”



Well believe it or not some have managed to avoid it.....and they don't live in a cave(well I hope not)...and one is a friend, who doesn't read the papers like the Sun or daily mail....(as I don't think the Guardian are botherd with such things) and she doesn't visit some of the sites either...although sites like OG (not the forum) and Kasterborous have been good enough to not spoil it either....with big warnings ahead....and giving people the chioce to read on....despite the fact it is plasterd all over the internet otherwise....

So if we see TD in TWOM trailer...it will be a nice shock for her.....
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