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Old 06-07-2009, 23:36
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Michelle has updated her Facebook to say that she is just going off what rumours she has heard. So nothing concrete as of yet.
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Old 07-07-2009, 00:09
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I get the feeling she was probably made to say that... gutted now, I really hate Jessie.
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Old 10-07-2009, 23:44
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But the USA cliques are so clearly defined and you HAVE to be part of one of them, you HAVE to act and dress according to your clique etc.
That's simply not true outside of works of fiction set in US high schools. And even fiction is sometimes more subtle than that. Real people are complex, even in high school, and defy such simplistic categorization. Everywhere in the world. In broad terms there may be different social categories, but most individual students are not one dimensional, nor are they forced to act one dimensionally in order to fit into one particular box.

Yea, i can't get over that. I'm gonna go abroad for a yr in the US and i find that whole clique, frat/sorority house thing daunting
Are fraternities any more cliquish than the colleges and private halls of Oxford?

Not all universities in the US have fraternities or sororities, and even at those that do it's usually a minority of students who belong to one. It's not an integral, inescapable fact of US university life. If you're concerned about it, pick a university where they don't have much of a presence.
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Old 11-07-2009, 04:55
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That's simply not true outside of works of fiction set in US high schools. And even fiction is sometimes more subtle than that. Real people are complex, even in high school, and defy such simplistic categorization. Everywhere in the world. In broad terms there may be different social categories, but most individual students are not one dimensional, nor are they forced to act one dimensionally in order to fit into one particular box.
I've seen plenty of evidence to the contrary first hand
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Old 11-07-2009, 08:02
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I've seen plenty of evidence to the contrary first hand
I'm sure you're capable of seeing real human beings as walking caricatures if that's how you choose to view the world. The rigid high school archetypes are standards of fiction and of minds that are willing to view others on such a superficial level. Is real life romance well represented by romantic comedies or soap operas? Is reality full of lone heroes saving the planet by shooting dozens of villains? Have you seen "plenty of evidence" of French people all wearing striped black and white shirts and berets? No, and US high schools aren't full of people rigidly conforming to specific social castes, no matter how many times you see it in fiction or how tempting it is to oversimplify your own first hand observations that way.
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Old 11-07-2009, 19:13
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I didn't say that everyone conforms to every stereotype ever shown on TV and film, I said in my personal experience American highschools conform to the way they are stereotyped on TV and film.

Your comment makes no sense in relation to what I said.
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Old 12-07-2009, 00:24
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I didn't say that everyone conforms to every stereotype ever shown on TV and film, I said in my personal experience American highschools conform to the way they are stereotyped on TV and film.

Your comment makes no sense in relation to what I said.
Yes it does. In my personal experience, people who perceive the world the way you do, in terms of flimsy stereotypes, are small minded bigots. I believe you that that's the way you see people, but that doesn't mean that that's the way they are. If a racist were to say that "in my personal experience, all people of race X are exactly like the stereotype", their opinion would reflect more on them than on people of race X.
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Old 12-07-2009, 03:30
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OK.

You're entitled to your opinion but since how you feel about me as a person has no relevance to Big Brother and I feel no need to defend my moral fibre to you, I have no interest in getting into a debate about it
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