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Old 28-06-2009, 20:16
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Many people are comparing the two in terms of world fame, talent and being two of the most groundbreaking and most famous men on the planet ever.

But IMO they are a lot different in personality as Elvis wasn't a weirdo.

Would you agree or disagree about them being as famous as each other?
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Old 28-06-2009, 20:27
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Many people are comparing the two in terms of world fame, talent and being two of the most groundbreaking and most famous men on the planet ever.

But IMO they are a lot different in personality as Elvis wasn't a weirdo.
Would you agree or disagree about them being as famous as each other?
Well i'm sure he went a bit wierd near the end. But they are probably about equal, with each being in their time the most well recognised human on the planet at the time of their death. As far as talent goes, I only think that Elvis sung other peoples songs, played guitar and swivelled his hips. Jacko wrote most of his songs and was the most innovitive dancer of a generation.
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Old 28-06-2009, 20:32
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I heard that Elvis never wrote any of his songs.

Elvis shot to fame in 1954 and died in 1977 23 years later.

Jacko shot to fame in about 1971 and died 38 years later, 3 days ago. Jacko was famous for longer than Elvis was in terms of years and as you say he wrote most of his songs.
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Old 28-06-2009, 20:34
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Many people are comparing the two in terms of world fame, talent and being two of the most groundbreaking and most famous men on the planet ever.

But IMO they are a lot different in personality as Elvis wasn't a weirdo.

Would you agree or disagree about them being as famous as each other?
Quote of the year IMHO. Do you actually know anything about Elvis? Try googling him and these key words "obesity" "white panties" "teenage girls" "colonel tom parker" "hamburgers" and "toilet" just for starters......
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Old 28-06-2009, 20:36
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Well if you're asking my personal opinion I prefered Michael Jackson.

Elvis ripped a lot of his songs off from black artists and got credited for it himself. In regards to his personality, no he wasnt off the wall like Michael Jackson, but he did live a troubled life towards the end which ultimatley led to his untimely death.However he is still a great icon and a legend in the recording industry.

They are both icons. They cannot really be compared IMO.
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Old 28-06-2009, 20:38
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I heard that Elvis never wrote any of his songs.

Elvis shot to fame in 1954 and died in 1977 23 years later.

Jacko shot to fame in about 1971 and died 38 years later, 3 days ago. Jacko was famous for longer than Elvis was in terms of years and as you say he wrote most of his songs.
In terms of overall talent, Jackson was much more creative than Elvis. In terms of stage charisma or fame, I'd say they were about the same at their respective peaks.

Niether of them were as good as James Brown though.
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Old 28-06-2009, 20:41
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Elvis changed the world in a seismic way. Jacko didn't.

Elvis paved the way for The Beatles, and The Jacksons and virtually every chart star that came after him.

I'm not saying that Jacko wasn't a major influence, because he was, but I don't think they can be compared as far as their impact is concerned.

The sad thing is that the current generations have no real idea of Elvis's impact because it's submerged under a sea of impersonators.

Elvis did exhibit weird behaviour, it's true, but not in the same league as Jacko. I would Google "teenage sleepovers", "masks" "excessive cosmetic surgery" "denial of colour", "staged marriages" for a start...

At least Elvis loved his wife, teenage as she was when they met, and his kids were his own.
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Old 28-06-2009, 20:43
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Elvis changed the world in a seismic way. Jacko didn't.

Elvis paved the way for The Beatles, and The Jacksons and virtually every chart star that came after him.

I'm not saying that Jacko wasn't a major influence, because he was, but I don't think they can be compared as far as their impact is concerned.

The sad thing is that the current generations have no real idea of Elvis's impact because it's submerged under a sea of impersonators.

Elvis did exhibit weird behaviour, it's true, but not in the same league as Jacko. I would Google "teenage sleepovers", "masks" "excessive cosmetic surgery" "denial of colour", "staged marriages" for a start...

At least Elvis loved his wife, teenage as she was, and his kids were his own.

So in effect you are saying that Elvis was the 'God Father' of modern music
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Old 28-06-2009, 20:56
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I think Michael was more famous than Elvis I think he had a much larger fan base that covered the whole world. Tonight a Michael Jackson album re entered the charts at no1 only 3 days after his death it took 3 weeks for Elvis to get back to no1 after his death.
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Old 28-06-2009, 21:02
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I think Michael was more famous than Elvis I think he had a much larger fan base that covered the whole world. Tonight a Michael Jackson album re entered the charts at no1 only 3 days after his death it took 3 weeks for Elvis to get back to no1 after his death.
Well you have to remember that albums were not as accessible in those days as they are now. Not only are there more shops that sell CDs, it is easier to get to those shops (transport) and you dont even need to leave your house you can download albums now. Yet I do beleive Michael Jackson appealed to more people.
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Old 28-06-2009, 21:06
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When Elvis died there were hardly any records in the shops and everything was sold out that day. It was a different world then.

So you think Elvis's fan base didn't cover the whole world? As i've posted on another thread, just look at the makeup of the visitors at Graceland and the hundreds of gold disks he has from every country on the planet...
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Old 28-06-2009, 21:08
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Michael Jackson was clearly a way more talented man than Elvis and I think if he was still here we'd see that talent come back again after his tour. I know his last couple of albums have been pretty poor but the people he had lined up to work with could have changed it all again for him
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Old 28-06-2009, 21:36
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I'd actually put Elvis higher on the list than Michael in terms of the greatest music artists of all time,and actually think he was a better singer than MJ.However,Michael was by far the more creative of the two.Elvis ranks the higher due to the voice,the look,the originality and because of pure impact.

Both are probably the two most famous men on the planet after WW2.Difficult to know who was most famous during their peak because Elvis was a genuine phenomenon during the 50's and 60's.

Also,as much of a genius as Michael was in his heyday,there was alot of other people involved in OTW,Thriller and Bad.From production to arrangement to marketing etc.Does Michael get too much of the credit?

I don't want to sound like I'm critcizing MJ - he is my personal favourite music artist of all time.But if I am being impartial I would rank quite a few musicians above Michael if I listed the absolute greatest music artists of all time.
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Old 28-06-2009, 22:57
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Gets on my nerves people actually seriously trying to compare the affect Elvis had on music and culture in general with Wacko, who was just a very successful "pop" act. Before Elvis there was no such thing as "teenage", he changed the WORLD culturally much the same as The Beatles did and Sex Pistols to a lesser extent. Musically, Kraftwerk and punk rock have had more of an influence on music culture than anything Jacko did. I recognise the guy's talent but he was a pop star at the end of the day who danced, he didn't change the world. Elvis did.
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Old 28-06-2009, 23:00
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I personally never took to him, Michael was more me out of the two. The king of rock and roll in my eyes was always Freddie Mercury, forget Elvis.
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Old 28-06-2009, 23:35
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Gets on my nerves people actually seriously trying to compare the affect Elvis had on music and culture in general with Wacko, who was just a very successful "pop" act. Before Elvis there was no such thing as "teenage", he changed the WORLD culturally much the same as The Beatles did and Sex Pistols to a lesser extent. Musically, Kraftwerk and punk rock have had more of an influence on music culture than anything Jacko did. I recognise the guy's talent but he was a pop star at the end of the day who danced, he didn't change the world. Elvis did.
That's true.
From a cultural point of view (not musically) it could be said Marlon Brando in his prime (especially The Wild One) and probably to a greater extent,James Dean (with Rebel Without a Cause) played just as big a part as Elvis in kickstarting the whole teenage thing.
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Old 29-06-2009, 00:16
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Gets on my nerves people actually seriously trying to compare the affect Elvis had on music and culture in general with Wacko, who was just a very successful "pop" act. Before Elvis there was no such thing as "teenage", he changed the WORLD culturally much the same as The Beatles did and Sex Pistols to a lesser extent. Musically, Kraftwerk and punk rock have had more of an influence on music culture than anything Jacko did. I recognise the guy's talent but he was a pop star at the end of the day who danced, he didn't change the world. Elvis did.
Michael did a lot for black artists back when he was starting out you wouldn't of got a black artist that appealed to a white audience but Michael helped to change that
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Old 29-06-2009, 21:55
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Michael did a lot for black artists back when he was starting out you wouldn't of got a black artist that appealed to a white audience but Michael helped to change that
What nonsense. You never heard of James Brown or Little Richard? These guys were massive stars loved by black and white people all over the world when Wacko was crapping in his nappy. Laughable
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Old 29-06-2009, 23:20
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Old 30-06-2009, 00:42
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What nonsense. You never heard of James Brown or Little Richard? These guys were massive stars loved by black and white people all over the world when Wacko was crapping in his nappy. Laughable
not on the level Michael Jackson did
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Old 30-06-2009, 01:40
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What nonsense. You never heard of James Brown or Little Richard? These guys were massive stars loved by black and white people all over the world when Wacko was crapping in his nappy. Laughable
Just admit it you couldnt stand Mj thats why with the biased answer
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Old 30-06-2009, 06:00
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they have a lot in common

1.both died broke
2.stuff with drugs
3.forced to do concerts to pay debts off
4.weight issues,elvis was fat and jacko thin
5.there home's (possibly Jackson's Neverland) turned into money making tourists attraction.
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Old 30-06-2009, 09:50
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What nonsense. You never heard of James Brown or Little Richard? These guys were massive stars loved by black and white people all over the world when Wacko was crapping in his nappy. Laughable
The fact that you keep referring to Michael Jackson as 'Wacko', i can't take your post seriously.

Both men changed music and transcended their genres, Elvis definitely more so because of the time and era he was in but don't underestimate Jackson's music and the effect it had and still does - probably more than Presley in today's music world.

Also, MJ was more talented and creative whereas Elvis sang other writers songs.
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Old 30-06-2009, 09:52
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Michael did a lot for black artists back when he was starting out you wouldn't of got a black artist that appealed to a white audience but Michael helped to change that
Ever heard of Chuck Berry, Little Richard, James Brown, Sam Cook, Ike Turner, Ray Charles, Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Wonder? There were a lot of black artists who did more than Michael Jackson to cross the black white divide.

As for who was better out of Elvis and Jacko it has to be Elvis. He was the one who changed the music world, although someone else would have done it, Elvis popularised Rock and Roll. he probably was the first global pop icon.
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Old 30-06-2009, 09:53
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I'm staggered by the amount of musical ignorance shown by the MJ fanboys on this forum, I really am . . . ..
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