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Puppy weeing
suzielou1970
03-07-2009
I was wondering if anyone else had this problem with a puppy. We have a 17 week old Jack Russell bitch Candy. We are in the middle of house training her and most of the time she will go to the door to be let out.
During the day when there is just me with her she only goes to the door once every 15-20 minutes but in the evening when she is with me and hubbie she goes to the door every 5 minutes!
I know sometimes she may not want a wee but we have to let her out. She goes out, has a dribble of a wee so we reward her with a small treat and we go back in- 5 minutes later the same thing. Its getting to the point where we cant settle as we are in and out all night.
When we take her out for a walk she can go 30 minutes without weeing and when we go to puppy training she can wait for over an hour. Even at night she only wees once.
I spoke to the vet as we had her neutered this week and she said it is quite normal for puppys to do this and she will grow out of it but it is driving us mad!
Anyone else having the same problems???
wilhemina
03-07-2009
I'm just wondering if it's the treats that your puppy is after & that she may not have worked out the association with having a wee & getting the treat. If you are praising & rewarding her for asking to go out, rather than as soon as she starts to wee, she may think that all she has to do is go to the door, & hey presto, I get a tasty treat! Just a thought.
StressMonkey
03-07-2009
Or it could be that she has made the association - hence the squeezing a dribble out. So she is weeing to get a treat.

I would maybe train a command for the weeing then get her to wee on command. Praise when she wee's outside on her terms, but only treat when she does it on command. I mean, if she came and sat without a command, would you reward her? Nope

Maybe also have a couple of extra training sessions in the evening to occupy her mind. Or a trick I learned recently - a bit of raw oxtail can take up to 5 hours for a small dog to consume Peaceful, peaceful evening
Alfie Blue Eyes
03-07-2009
Mine did this too, stopped giving treats after a while and just praised him. I think he grew out of it at around 4 months, but yes we were up and down like yoyos
Tass
03-07-2009
Sometimes one of the problems with treat training is that the dog gets smart enough to train you to provide the treat at its prompting
This can also be a problem when people reward a dog for a good behaviour as a way of stopping an unwanted behaviour i.e sit instead of jumping up.
It works fine with the less smart ones, the brighter ones will actually learn to misbehave first in order to get the treat for then doing the required behaviour i.e they have learnt a two step process to gain the reward; jump first, then sit=reward. This is why these dogs will often then jump again once rewarded for the sit or when released from their sit, hence setting things up for a second treat.
This individual difference in responses is why imo no one single system works for every dog.
In this case I would go with the suggestion of using a toilet command but only treat-reward the weeing on your terms, otherwise verbally praise and but don't give a treat.
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