Tenth Doctor movie to be confirmed at Comic-Con?
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I do wonder , if true , what the plot will involve. Probably be 10 and Rose and lots of Daleks. Hope we get Time War flashbacks at least (if that's not the main story) and Doctors eight and nine.
what could it be about? the time war?
surely it will air AFTER matt smith has been in the role a while, so it will seem a bit weird going back to an earlier doctors story...
surely it will air AFTER matt smith has been in the role a while, so it will seem a bit weird going back to an earlier doctors story...
I hope David Tennant's eerie looking grin isn't gracing the movie. You left, dear. Matt Smith all the way!
Originally Posted by butlerx12:
“what could it be about? the time war?
surely it will air AFTER matt smith has been in the role a while, so it will seem a bit weird going back to an earlier doctors story...
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“what could it be about? the time war?
surely it will air AFTER matt smith has been in the role a while, so it will seem a bit weird going back to an earlier doctors story...
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Nah I have a feeling the timewar will be revisited in the specials ...
Personally I think Russell and David are wanting to lose the restrictions of the tv show- take the Doctor to a next level -where a Saturday tea time tv Doctor can't go..
I'm not talking about anything the kiddies can't cope with for the movie -but just allowing the Doctor to push that little bit further than he's ever gone before with his adventures.Further than he is able to go at Saturday tea time in the tv series.
I think the Tennant movie Doctor - if it is happening is going to be River's Doctor -and we'll maybe meet him in the specials.Is he Rose's Doctor? I think we maybe have two tenth Doctors for a very good reason ..
The way i'm looking at it is River Song seemed to be speaking of two characters who definatly did not sound like Saturday tea time telly characters to me ...they sounded like characters who would be more likely to be found in a Who spin-off or expansion of the brand don't you think?
But whoever this Tennant movie Doctor (if it is happening) is ...it's about taking the Doctor further than he can go in the telly series imo.Probably something RTD and David have wanted to do for a very long time. And it's not as if if we get two Doctors -one on the tv - one on the big screen .. not as if they will ever have to speak of each other or meet unless the writers want them to.They can have total independance of each other if the writers want it .. and if they meet thats excellent crossover -all good whichever.
This Tennant movie Doctor (if it is happening) might be able to visit Jack at Torchwood also ..i'd love that
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I'm not sure we'll hear much more of River Song (well, I hope not, anyway). She's certainly too obscure a character currently to be one of the main protagonists of a Doctor Who movie. I'd expect the Daleks to be in there though.
Originally Posted by mikey1980:
“I'm not sure we'll hear much more of River Song (well, I hope not, anyway). She's certainly too obscure a character currently to be one of the main protagonists of a Doctor Who movie. I'd expect the Daleks to be in there though.”
“I'm not sure we'll hear much more of River Song (well, I hope not, anyway). She's certainly too obscure a character currently to be one of the main protagonists of a Doctor Who movie. I'd expect the Daleks to be in there though.”
I think Alex Kingston would be a pretty good draw myself -pretty well known in the US is she not
?But i'm just saying I think David might be playing her Doctor in the movie if it's happening ..
My guess is we'll see River in the specials if shes to be a companion in any movie ...or maybe the companion would be a new character played by another actress - or Donna/DoctorDonna or Rose -it's anyones guess ..
Astrid worked well though so they could have a brand new character if they wanted
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Originally Posted by JessicaL:
“I think Alex Kingston would be a pretty good draw myself -pretty well known in the US is she not?
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“I think Alex Kingston would be a pretty good draw myself -pretty well known in the US is she not
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I absolutely agree Jess. Just wondering about the funding for any movie though , presumably BBC films (if it was them) would want further backing from major studios if they could get it. That could be where problems start , as David and Alex Kingston may be considered too old by studio execs to get a film to sell. Ludicrous as it sounds with two performers in their late 30's , early 40's , any US paymasters may want younger perfomers.
Originally Posted by vaughan6477:
“I absolutely agree Jess. Just wondering about the funding for any movie though , presumably BBC films (if it was them) would want further backing from major studios if they could get it. That could be where problems start , as David and Alex Kingston may be considered too old by studio execs to get a film to sell. Ludicrous as it sounds with two performers in their late 30's , early 40's , any US paymasters may want younger perfomers.”
“I absolutely agree Jess. Just wondering about the funding for any movie though , presumably BBC films (if it was them) would want further backing from major studios if they could get it. That could be where problems start , as David and Alex Kingston may be considered too old by studio execs to get a film to sell. Ludicrous as it sounds with two performers in their late 30's , early 40's , any US paymasters may want younger perfomers.”
If they're looking to get funding from the US then they'd be more than happy to have the established actors in the roles for which they're famous, and that have the existing fanbase.
Look at the original Star Trek movie with the original, already quite old, cast. Shatner was 48. They only recast Kirk and Spock with younger actors this year.
Originally Posted by vaughan6477:
“I absolutely agree Jess. Just wondering about the funding for any movie though , presumably BBC films (if it was them) would want further backing from major studios if they could get it. That could be where problems start , as David and Alex Kingston may be considered too old by studio execs to get a film to sell. Ludicrous as it sounds with two performers in their late 30's , early 40's , any US paymasters may want younger perfomers.”
“I absolutely agree Jess. Just wondering about the funding for any movie though , presumably BBC films (if it was them) would want further backing from major studios if they could get it. That could be where problems start , as David and Alex Kingston may be considered too old by studio execs to get a film to sell. Ludicrous as it sounds with two performers in their late 30's , early 40's , any US paymasters may want younger perfomers.”
The age is perfect imo -Hollywood has just had youth in Twilight -and Twilight2 to come I believe ..
David's the perfect age for Mum's and Daughters ...Mum's relate to him because he's close to their age ...Daughters like bonding with their Mum as they all agree how fab he is
.and also any stronger storylines (assuming any movie would be taking the Doctor slightly further than he can go in the tv series) will be more suited to a older actor imo
.Still don't know if this movie is happening at all of course ..
Originally Posted by zz9:
“If they're looking to get funding from the US then they'd be more than happy to have the established actors in the roles for which they're famous, and that have the existing fanbase.
Look at the original Star Trek movie with the original, already quite old, cast. Shatner was 48. They only recast Kirk and Spock with younger actors this year.”
“If they're looking to get funding from the US then they'd be more than happy to have the established actors in the roles for which they're famous, and that have the existing fanbase.
Look at the original Star Trek movie with the original, already quite old, cast. Shatner was 48. They only recast Kirk and Spock with younger actors this year.”
Doctor Who doesn't have the mass appeal of Star Trek as a US created and world based brand though. Any movie could well be a box office success in the UK and parts of the world but any US backers are going to want it to be a decent success at the box office over there. My recollections of watching and reading about the Mcgann TVM in 1996 , are that it turned into a mess due to the US backers sticking their noses into the creative process too much.
If RTD and the production crew and cast manage to marry fan expectations , with appealing to a worldwide audience than good luck to them. Although if they have a good enough story to fill a few hours featuring 10 , then I'd rather have seen it as another special or part of a tv series this year!
Soz , that was a bit of a rant considering we don't know whether or not there will be a movie announcement
Originally Posted by JessicaL:
“The age is perfect imo -Hollywood has just had youth in Twilight -and Twilight2 to come I believe ..David's the perfect age for Mum's and Daughters ...Mum's relate to him because he's close to their age ...Daughters like bonding with their Mum as they all agree how fab he is.
and also any stronger storylines (assuming any movie would be taking the Doctor slightly further than he can go in the tv series) will be more suited to a older actor imo.
Still don't know if this movie is happening at all of course ..”
“The age is perfect imo -Hollywood has just had youth in Twilight -and Twilight2 to come I believe ..David's the perfect age for Mum's and Daughters ...Mum's relate to him because he's close to their age ...Daughters like bonding with their Mum as they all agree how fab he is
.and also any stronger storylines (assuming any movie would be taking the Doctor slightly further than he can go in the tv series) will be more suited to a older actor imo
.Still don't know if this movie is happening at all of course ..”
Which probably makes it more likely there'll be hundreds of copycat movies with young actors and actresses. Rather than something based on a show that is massively successful in the UK but still a cult hit in other countries.
Originally Posted by vaughan6477:
“Doctor Who doesn't have the mass appeal of Star Trek as a US created and world based brand though. Any movie could well be a box office success in the UK and parts of the world but any US backers are going to want it to be a decent success at the box office over there. My recollections of watching and reading about the Mcgann TVM in 1996 , are that it turned into a mess due to the US backers sticking their noses into the creative process too much.
If RTD and the production crew and cast manage to marry fan expectations , with appealing to a worldwide audience than good luck to them. Although if they have a good enough story to fill a few hours featuring 10 , then I'd rather have seen it as another special or part of a tv series this year!
Soz , that was a bit of a rant considering we don't know whether or not there will be a movie announcement”
“Doctor Who doesn't have the mass appeal of Star Trek as a US created and world based brand though. Any movie could well be a box office success in the UK and parts of the world but any US backers are going to want it to be a decent success at the box office over there. My recollections of watching and reading about the Mcgann TVM in 1996 , are that it turned into a mess due to the US backers sticking their noses into the creative process too much.
If RTD and the production crew and cast manage to marry fan expectations , with appealing to a worldwide audience than good luck to them. Although if they have a good enough story to fill a few hours featuring 10 , then I'd rather have seen it as another special or part of a tv series this year!
Soz , that was a bit of a rant considering we don't know whether or not there will be a movie announcement
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TV series this year? whats that about? new to me i'm not a member of the Who forums .. or are you talking about the specials?
as you say nothing announced yet so we shall just have to wait and see ...maybe we'll see David with a Hollywood name as his leading lady who knows ...what would be the worst case scenario would be someone like Depp trying to play the Doctor -shudder at the thought
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Originally Posted by vaughan6477:
“Which probably makes it more likely there'll be hundreds of copycat movies with young actors and actresses. Rather than something based on a show that is massively successful in the UK but still a cult hit in other countries.”
“Which probably makes it more likely there'll be hundreds of copycat movies with young actors and actresses. Rather than something based on a show that is massively successful in the UK but still a cult hit in other countries.”
Nah doubt it- the age in Hollywood is still very much 30's/40's centered imo
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the only way for a movie to happen with tennant is by having it set in the parallel universe with ten and rose
but who ..... HAHAHAHA WHO ..... *ahem* ..... who says it's going to be part of the timeline?
they could set it ANYTIME, it dosn't have to fit in to anywhere, does it?
they SHOULD release STOLEN EARTH/JOURNEYS END as a feature first
they could set it ANYTIME, it dosn't have to fit in to anywhere, does it?
they SHOULD release STOLEN EARTH/JOURNEYS END as a feature first
The way I see it, we could have a three-pronged franchise, with each set at different periods in the show's chronology. The audios are set earliest, starring Doctors 5-8 (any broadcast on Radio 4 or 7 are always Doctor 8). Then you get the film, which will star the 10th Doctor. The TV show with Doc 11 is obviously set last in the series timeline.
If the Time War is involved in the movie plot, I'd like to see Doc 10 visit Blackpool. Lucie Miller, the 8th Doctor's current companion, recognises the Tardis, but is quite surprised when the guy who steps out isn't the man she knows. She'd demand to know where the Doctor is, he explains that he IS the Doctor, and is forced to explain how he regenerated. Cue flashback, with narration by David Tennant and Sheridan Smith. Later, the Doctor realises that since Dalek Caan managed to bring Davros back from the Time War (as seen in The Stolen Earth/Journey's End), he can now bring back the Time Lords and Gallifrey. So he takes Lucie and goes back into the Time War, rescuing her Doctor, who is badly wounded, and stopping the 8th Doctor from destroying Gallifrey (since Doc 10 knows it would be futile anyway, as the Daleks survived). With Docs 8 and 10 in their own Tardises, Lucie goes back with 8, who regenerates into Doc 9 (cameo from Chris Eccleston). Meanwhile, Doc 10 goes off for further adventures. This would be set between the last ever 8th Doctor audio and the TV episode Rose for Doc 8 and Lucie, and between Planet of the Dead and Waters of Mars for Doc 10. It would also set up Doc 11 to have adventures involving other Time Lords and Gallifrey. It would also explain John Simm's appearance in the Xmas specials, assuming he'll be playing The Master (we'll know for sure by the time any movie comes out anyway).
If the Time War is involved in the movie plot, I'd like to see Doc 10 visit Blackpool. Lucie Miller, the 8th Doctor's current companion, recognises the Tardis, but is quite surprised when the guy who steps out isn't the man she knows. She'd demand to know where the Doctor is, he explains that he IS the Doctor, and is forced to explain how he regenerated. Cue flashback, with narration by David Tennant and Sheridan Smith. Later, the Doctor realises that since Dalek Caan managed to bring Davros back from the Time War (as seen in The Stolen Earth/Journey's End), he can now bring back the Time Lords and Gallifrey. So he takes Lucie and goes back into the Time War, rescuing her Doctor, who is badly wounded, and stopping the 8th Doctor from destroying Gallifrey (since Doc 10 knows it would be futile anyway, as the Daleks survived). With Docs 8 and 10 in their own Tardises, Lucie goes back with 8, who regenerates into Doc 9 (cameo from Chris Eccleston). Meanwhile, Doc 10 goes off for further adventures. This would be set between the last ever 8th Doctor audio and the TV episode Rose for Doc 8 and Lucie, and between Planet of the Dead and Waters of Mars for Doc 10. It would also set up Doc 11 to have adventures involving other Time Lords and Gallifrey. It would also explain John Simm's appearance in the Xmas specials, assuming he'll be playing The Master (we'll know for sure by the time any movie comes out anyway).
I think we're looking at this too much from a fan perspective..
DT is completely identified with the role in the minds of the viewing public. If you're going to pick an actor for the Doctor he's the obvious choice. Plus DT will be available as he won't be shooting the series.
The film, if there is a film, won't tie into the telly timeline simply because the rest of the world is watching different series at different points.
If I were a betting man I'd guess that the villains will be the Daleks simply because they are easily the best known of the Doctors enemies.
When it comes to companions I think we'll probably see a new face, most probably an American, as a sop to the money men.
DT is completely identified with the role in the minds of the viewing public. If you're going to pick an actor for the Doctor he's the obvious choice. Plus DT will be available as he won't be shooting the series.
The film, if there is a film, won't tie into the telly timeline simply because the rest of the world is watching different series at different points.
If I were a betting man I'd guess that the villains will be the Daleks simply because they are easily the best known of the Doctors enemies.
When it comes to companions I think we'll probably see a new face, most probably an American, as a sop to the money men.
Good point about an American companion, they did the same with the 1996 TV Movie.
If they do that, there's not much chance of myself and Vaughan getting our wish of a Time War flashback.
If they do that, there's not much chance of myself and Vaughan getting our wish of a Time War flashback.
any who movie would have to be a stand alone movie and not fit in to the timeline anywhere inparticular trying to fit it in the timeline would make it unsaleable to 80% of the world and that is a markating mans nightmear
Originally Posted by delroy14:
“any who movie would have to be a stand alone movie and not fit in to the timeline anywhere inparticular trying to fit it in the timeline would make it unsaleable to 80% of the world and that is a markating mans nightmear”
“any who movie would have to be a stand alone movie and not fit in to the timeline anywhere inparticular trying to fit it in the timeline would make it unsaleable to 80% of the world and that is a markating mans nightmear”
Surely you don't think that 20% of the world are Doctor Who fans? Especially fans who give a damn about when the film would be set?
Originally Posted by Eaglestriker:
“Surely you don't think that 20% of the world are Doctor Who fans? Especially fans who give a damn about when the film would be set?”
“Surely you don't think that 20% of the world are Doctor Who fans? Especially fans who give a damn about when the film would be set?
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quite the reverse, but only 20% of the world probly know anything at all about dr who but thats the point if they are going to make a who movie then it has to be marketable to the all regardless of if they have heard of dr who or not (and 20% was just a figure out of the air as far as i know it could be less than 0.00000001%)
Originally Posted by delroy14:
“quite the reverse, but only 20% of the world probly know anything at all about dr who but thats the point if they are going to make a who movie then it has to be marketable to the all regardless of if they have heard of dr who or not (and 20% was just a figure out of the air as far as i know it could be less than 0.00000001%)”
“quite the reverse, but only 20% of the world probly know anything at all about dr who but thats the point if they are going to make a who movie then it has to be marketable to the all regardless of if they have heard of dr who or not (and 20% was just a figure out of the air as far as i know it could be less than 0.00000001%)”
I was gonna say, if Doctor Who had over a billion followers it'd be an infiniately bigger hit than the Star Wars and Harry Potter franchises combined!
Yeah, they'd have to do a Star Trek. Make it accessible to the common audience yet respectful for its continuity at the same time, and if Russell is writing it then its bound to be.
Its the style of the movie I'm worried about though, more than anything. There's a unique Britishness to Who, as well as Wallace and Gromit.
Nick Park, whilst making Curse of the Were-Rabbit, reportedly had to make several changes and omitted several scenes, phrases, motifs etc in the film in order to satisfy the "12-year-old obese movie fan in the States". Russell T might have to do the same if we wants Americans to 'get it'.
Of course, an effective solution would be the American companion as mentioned above. Maybe an American villain, too, as a statement of irony against the architype movie badguy
Should the Daleks be involved? Maybe. Maybe not. Their voices would get on the audience's nerves after a while, I imagine. They did to me in the Cushing films.
The Cybermen are a good candidate, but Trek fans would rip the film to shreds for copying the Borg (I know...).
The Master? Who knows.
Has Russell T Davies ever made a movie?
Some of his episodes have been disappointing. I hope they get a team working on the project who aren't convinced of their own genius.
Some of his episodes have been disappointing. I hope they get a team working on the project who aren't convinced of their own genius.
How strange that would be for Matt Smith if this is true. He gets a great role like this and then gets overshadowed by a Film version starting the very actors who shadow he will need to get out from under.
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