Originally Posted by Force Ten:
“Well personally I shall reserve judgement until I've seen the show and seen how it works with the new format. You never know, it might be better than last year
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“Well personally I shall reserve judgement until I've seen the show and seen how it works with the new format. You never know, it might be better than last year
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It couldn't be worse imho!
Originally Posted by PeachesSCD:
“...Why fix a show that is so clearly not broken?...”
“...Why fix a show that is so clearly not broken?...”
I'd say after last series it had a very large crack in its reputation (sorry to truncate your post).
Originally Posted by Kaos:
“I think the problem with the dancing is that not every will vote for the best dancer.
Someone could be brilliant technique wise but just leave people cold, or for some reason or the other people will just dislike them and won't vote. At the end of it the celebs need the votes to stay in and the people who have no idea about dancing what so ever are going to vote for who they like and who entertained them. The judges will have no impact on that other then maybe they'll throw a vote to someone they felt was harshly done by. Not all the time, some people will listen because they want to learn and judge it on the dancing, but I know plenty who mute the judges or else just vote for whoever they like (which I did I voted for Brian and Heather every week and then Lisa, didn't care what the judges said no one was changing my mind).
I do feel sorry sometimes when people like JS go through week in week out whilst not being able to dance. But to be fair he did entertain and people spent their time wanting him in. Whether or not it has to do with the judges I don't know, I know a lot of people including my mum and some friends who voted for him just because they liked him and to them he was what made Strictly. A man who was enjoying himself and trying to learn how to dance. Some of my friends can dance some of them can't. My mum hates dancing but watched the series because I made her. But at the end of the day they all loved him.
With the judges I think one of the biggest problems last year was JS was so much poorer then most of the other dancers that the only judge that seemed to be watching him half the time was Craig! Yeah 1s and 2s are harsh but at the end of the day Len was scoring nearly every celeb 6 or higher. If they didn't mark so high at the beginning of the series people wouldn't think Craig AS harsh (a 1 or 2 is always going to be harsh but compare a 1 to a 7 or a 1 to a 4 and which one seems worse?). I do agree that they brought JS score down when they wanted him out but it was too late and by then scoring the next worst dancer with a 6 or a 7 THEN you have people voting for John because the judges were mean to him.”
“I think the problem with the dancing is that not every will vote for the best dancer.
Someone could be brilliant technique wise but just leave people cold, or for some reason or the other people will just dislike them and won't vote. At the end of it the celebs need the votes to stay in and the people who have no idea about dancing what so ever are going to vote for who they like and who entertained them. The judges will have no impact on that other then maybe they'll throw a vote to someone they felt was harshly done by. Not all the time, some people will listen because they want to learn and judge it on the dancing, but I know plenty who mute the judges or else just vote for whoever they like (which I did I voted for Brian and Heather every week and then Lisa, didn't care what the judges said no one was changing my mind
).I do feel sorry sometimes when people like JS go through week in week out whilst not being able to dance. But to be fair he did entertain and people spent their time wanting him in. Whether or not it has to do with the judges I don't know, I know a lot of people including my mum and some friends who voted for him just because they liked him and to them he was what made Strictly. A man who was enjoying himself and trying to learn how to dance. Some of my friends can dance some of them can't. My mum hates dancing but watched the series because I made her. But at the end of the day they all loved him.
With the judges I think one of the biggest problems last year was JS was so much poorer then most of the other dancers that the only judge that seemed to be watching him half the time was Craig! Yeah 1s and 2s are harsh but at the end of the day Len was scoring nearly every celeb 6 or higher. If they didn't mark so high at the beginning of the series people wouldn't think Craig AS harsh (a 1 or 2 is always going to be harsh but compare a 1 to a 7 or a 1 to a 4 and which one seems worse?). I do agree that they brought JS score down when they wanted him out but it was too late and by then scoring the next worst dancer with a 6 or a 7 THEN you have people voting for John because the judges were mean to him.”
You could be reopening a can of worms with this post!.
All I'm going to say is even though I do want to be entertained when I watch SCD, I would never have voted for JS (or any other celeb) because he entertained me if he couldn't dance.
I cannot understand why the BBC felt the need to replace Arlene, yes she could be harsh, but she knows her stuff. Alesha Dixon is pleasant enough, but she is not a dancer, just because she has taken part in the show and knows what it is like to be criticised does not make her an expert. On that basis you could have had Fiona Philips or Kate Garraway on the judging panel. I fear for the future of the show, especially if the rumours are true and there are more changes to come.
