With talktalk but want Tiscali TV

dazbear · 09-07-2009, 20:41

As my SKY HD sub comes to an end, I am wondering whether to get back to Tiscali TV. I was with HomeChoice at my last abode and loved it, but our exchange at out new home was only enabled for Tiscali TV after we joined SKY.

Anyways - my BB is with TalkTalk. They insist my line only gives a speed of 2.05mbs which I know is below the Tiscali TV threshold. However all the speed tests I do come in between 3.42 and 3.75 mbs.

a) would 3.42 be ok for Tiscali TV?
b) if I moved my BB to Tiscali would they test my line more accurately than TalkTalk at the moment in order to give me the green light.

Thanks

Darren

MK_Brett · 10-07-2009, 08:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazbear

As my SKY HD sub comes to an end, I am wondering whether to get back to Tiscali TV. I was with HomeChoice at my last abode and loved it, but our exchange at out new home was only enabled for Tiscali TV after we joined SKY.

Anyways - my BB is with TalkTalk. They insist my line only gives a speed of 2.05mbs which I know is below the Tiscali TV threshold. However all the speed tests I do come in between 3.42 and 3.75 mbs.

a) would 3.42 be ok for Tiscali TV?
b) if I moved my BB to Tiscali would they test my line more accurately than TalkTalk at the moment in order to give me the green light.

Thanks

Darren

If you are only getting around 2MB, then you will not qualify for the TTV service. What line stats does your router show

dazbear · 10-07-2009, 09:01

Router is telling me 3980kbps downstream and 465kbps upstream. This fits with the speeds tests I have been doing.

Noise Margin is 5.8 db down 13.7 up (whatever that means)
Attenuation is 55.5 db down 32.3 up (again - what? hehe)

I wonder whether talktalk are just using the figures that BT has given them, as they say my line supports 2.05 max.

D

Ewaawoowaa · 10-07-2009, 11:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazbear

Router is telling me 3980kbps downstream and 465kbps upstream. This fits with the speeds tests I have been doing.

Noise Margin is 5.8 db down 13.7 up (whatever that means)
Attenuation is 55.5 db down 32.3 up (again - what? hehe)

I wonder whether talktalk are just using the figures that BT has given them, as they say my line supports 2.05 max.

D

Your attenuation is very high. Not that I am an expert but you need a low attenuation to get a higher speed.

If you are getting 3.9 meg then you would be able to get TV. I'm not sure I would risk it though. You might find the TV service breaks up if they went ahead nd put it on.

dazbear · 10-07-2009, 12:22

bugga!

Its annoying as I am at the very end of an exchange, with the other end of the street on a different exchange offering much faster speeds! Its also going fibre optic next month *rolls eyes*

D

MK_Brett · 13-07-2009, 09:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by dazbear

Noise Margin is 5.8 db down 13.7 up (whatever that means)
Attenuation is 55.5 db down 32.3 up (again - what? hehe)

I'm afraid it won't work. General rule of thumb is around 12db margin (down)and not over 50/55db attenuation (down). The margin needs to be higher to give you stability.

Regards

Brett

09-07-2009, 20:41	#1
dazbear Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 691	With talktalk but want Tiscali TV As my SKY HD sub comes to an end, I am wondering whether to get back to Tiscali TV. I was with HomeChoice at my last abode and loved it, but our exchange at out new home was only enabled for Tiscali TV after we joined SKY. Anyways - my BB is with TalkTalk. They insist my line only gives a speed of 2.05mbs which I know is below the Tiscali TV threshold. However all the speed tests I do come in between 3.42 and 3.75 mbs. a) would 3.42 be ok for Tiscali TV? b) if I moved my BB to Tiscali would they test my line more accurately than TalkTalk at the moment in order to give me the green light. Thanks Darren

10-07-2009, 08:45	#2
MK_Brett Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Herts. Posts: 318	Quote: Originally Posted by dazbear As my SKY HD sub comes to an end, I am wondering whether to get back to Tiscali TV. I was with HomeChoice at my last abode and loved it, but our exchange at out new home was only enabled for Tiscali TV after we joined SKY. Anyways - my BB is with TalkTalk. They insist my line only gives a speed of 2.05mbs which I know is below the Tiscali TV threshold. However all the speed tests I do come in between 3.42 and 3.75 mbs. a) would 3.42 be ok for Tiscali TV? b) if I moved my BB to Tiscali would they test my line more accurately than TalkTalk at the moment in order to give me the green light. Thanks Darren If you are only getting around 2MB, then you will not qualify for the TTV service. What line stats does your router show

10-07-2009, 09:01	#3
dazbear Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 691	Router is telling me 3980kbps downstream and 465kbps upstream. This fits with the speeds tests I have been doing. Noise Margin is 5.8 db down 13.7 up (whatever that means) Attenuation is 55.5 db down 32.3 up (again - what? hehe) I wonder whether talktalk are just using the figures that BT has given them, as they say my line supports 2.05 max. D

10-07-2009, 11:05	#4
Ewaawoowaa Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 1,908	Quote: Originally Posted by dazbear Router is telling me 3980kbps downstream and 465kbps upstream. This fits with the speeds tests I have been doing. Noise Margin is 5.8 db down 13.7 up (whatever that means) Attenuation is 55.5 db down 32.3 up (again - what? hehe) I wonder whether talktalk are just using the figures that BT has given them, as they say my line supports 2.05 max. D Your attenuation is very high. Not that I am an expert but you need a low attenuation to get a higher speed. If you are getting 3.9 meg then you would be able to get TV. I'm not sure I would risk it though. You might find the TV service breaks up if they went ahead nd put it on.

10-07-2009, 12:22	#5
dazbear Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Kent Posts: 691	bugga! Its annoying as I am at the very end of an exchange, with the other end of the street on a different exchange offering much faster speeds! Its also going fibre optic next month rolls eyes D

13-07-2009, 09:22	#6
MK_Brett Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Herts. Posts: 318	Quote: Originally Posted by dazbear Noise Margin is 5.8 db down 13.7 up (whatever that means) Attenuation is 55.5 db down 32.3 up (again - what? hehe) I'm afraid it won't work. General rule of thumb is around 12db margin (down)and not over 50/55db attenuation (down). The margin needs to be higher to give you stability. Regards Brett

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