bt vision installed next week

mark1971uk · 10-07-2009, 19:52

hi could anyone tell me what the pros and cons of having bt vision is please..

any well known faults that will pop up and how erasy is it to use..

many thanks

Matterhorn · 10-07-2009, 20:02

well it took BT ages to get mine operational, but has been fine since.

Pros:

Works well when set up properly
TV replay
You'll watch less TV

Cons:

VOD is majority awful
Expensive
Power Hungry box
Poor, slow GUI
Lousy customer services (BT in general)
Lack of 'smart' padding can cause trouble
Quiet sound output.
Possible HDMI issues.
Rubbish HD selection

good luck to you fella I hope you like it. I won't be renewing mine when the contract falls due, no matter what they offer.

mark1971uk · 10-07-2009, 20:16

thanks mate for ya prompt reply and taking time out for your info ;O)

at least i have some things to look out for now

Matterhorn · 10-07-2009, 20:25

Depends what you've come from..... Sky, TUTV etc....

if you've come from Sky then I'm pretty sure you'll be disappointed but then again your mileage may vary..

mark1971uk · 10-07-2009, 20:27

topuptv..i left due to the end of the discovery and real time downloads

Matterhorn · 10-07-2009, 20:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark1971uk

topuptv..i left due to the end of the discovery and real time downloads

ah, well in that case you'll see a definite improvement. Replay is invaluable IMO.

betsvigi9 · 12-07-2009, 08:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matterhorn

well it took BT ages to get mine operational, but has been fine since.

Pros:

Works well when set up properly
TV replay
You'll watch less TV

Cons:

VOD is majority awful
Expensive
Power Hungry box
Poor, slow GUI
Lousy customer services (BT in general)
Lack of 'smart' padding can cause trouble
Quiet sound output.
Possible HDMI issues.
Rubbish HD selection

good luck to you fella I hope you like it. I won't be renewing mine when the contract falls due, no matter what they offer.

VOD is great, I use it all the time. Don't bother with the VOD films though, too expensive.

For me, it's great value for money with Setanta, without it well we'll have to see if ESPN is included.

The box uses a lot of power, even in standby. BT are looking into improving this

Never had a problem with the GUI, although it is slightly slower than some, doesn't bother me at all

Not had a problem with customer services either, compared to Talk Talk they are absolutely marvelous

I don't think that not being able to pad causes problems, so much as the lack of accurate recording, which isn't possible with BT's own EPG. Having said that it has only caused me the odd problem, usually on BBC, which was easily resolved with TV replay.

The sound output is pretty much the same as my humax, you just have to turn it up a little bit, big deal!

HDMI works perfectly, never had a problem the picture is great.

Not much HD yet, but then that really doesn't bother me. If you want HD, then I'm not sure why you would be getting BT Vision. Like I said above, with an HDMI cable the picture is excellent anyway.

I have had Vision since last November and I can say that overall I have been very happy with it; I subscribe to the bronze pack. I got it because of the 'free' Setanta offer and I almost certainly wouldn't have bothered without that offer. I already subscribed to Setanta and so overall, it only cost me about £3 a month extra to get BT Vision. As I said above, I'm waiting to see what they come up with as far as ESPN is concerned. If they try to charge extra, then I will be downgrading to the TV pack only and I'll wait and see if what ESPN are offering is worth paying for.

Unlike Matterhorn, I do like BT Vision and in particular I love working my way through the entire series of VOD programmes that I didn't watch when they were broadcast. If I got rid of Vision, I would definitely miss the VOD service, which is why even if I downgrade, I'm unlikely to get rid of it altogether.

Happy viewing.

levineg · 12-07-2009, 13:51

I have been with BT Vision for the last 3 months. I am happy with it overall but one of the most frustrating things about BT is the time it takes to upload ITV content to the On Demand. Most of the ITV Programmes can take 24-48 hours to upload to the platform rather than being available on the same night of broadcast. However I have not noticed any time delays with the other channels ie bbc, channel4 and 5.

BT Vision is rather expensive and cannot see myself renewing after the 12 months.

I am more happy with BT Broadband which is good value for money.

stuntmaster · 13-07-2009, 22:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matterhorn

well it took BT ages to get mine operational, but has been fine since.

Pros:

Works well when set up properly
TV replay
You'll watch less TV

Cons:

1.VOD is majority awful
Expensive
2.Power Hungry box
3.Poor, slow GUI
Lousy customer services (BT in general)
Lack of 'smart' padding can cause trouble
4.Quiet sound output.
Possible HDMI issues.
Rubbish HD selection

good luck to you fella I hope you like it. I won't be renewing mine when the contract falls due, no matter what they offer.

1. VOD is not majorly awful, just takes longer to be updated, I find it fine for my needs.

2. not power hungry, its the same as many others.

3. Slow gui is down to the data being retrived live over the broadband, its actually nippy for me and I sync at 7.0mbps

4. Only on SOME vod.

BT is very good for what it does. HDMI issues are down to handshaking the HDCP protocol so the TV will output but you'll get no audio. Like me.

it is improoving slowly. BT have something up their sleeve.

14-07-2009, 09:14

I can only echo what Matterhorn said, BT Vision is awful, I am hoping ESPN start charging thus creating some sort of loophole that I can get out, as I only took BTV for Setanta.

When I first got it, for the first day or 2 I thought it was great, Look at all the stuff they have on it, then you realise its all bloody cr*p, never updated.

And the box is just annoying, It is slow and sluggish, the menu's are poorly laid out.

I live in hope that I can get out of this contract somehow, I have actually the box pulled out and watch the FTA channels on my Sky box, The are better than anything on BTV and that says alot.

scotty2808 · 14-07-2009, 09:28

Some feedback. I've had BTV for just over a year.
I've had a subscription for ~10months (when the football season started).

VOD - the 4OD/5On Demand/ BBC etc - I find this is superb.
The quality is very good and with v.few exceptions (eg. Local news) most stuff is on.
I rate it highly.
It it the main BTV component that I would pay more for to get more HD content.

HDMI - there is an issue but it doesn't impact on everyone. Luck of the draw (and depends on you TV manufacturer).
Sometimes when turning the tv on it takes a few secs for the pic to kick in and an error message is displayed. This goes away after a few secs.

HDMI Picture Quality - Set the box up so the signal is 720 or 1080i and it upscales.
The quality of the BBC channels is superb IMO. The other main broadcasters are good too.

Freeview signal strength will also go up with the digital switchover improving others.

VOD - TV Pack - Mixed bag. I don't use it as much now. Just found some new content from CBS to watch.

There is a lot of content on it. It rotates every couple of months.

HD TV- you have to download it and watch it several hours later. Selection poor.
HD Films - reasonable selection - it is ok if you are organised enough on a Thursday to say you will be in on a Friday night to watch it. HD Films are not charged until you "start" watching them which makes sense.

steveq3 · 14-07-2009, 10:10

It takes a good 3-5 minues to start up from cold.

That's my only gripe with it. Otherwise the content is great, Replay is invaluable. VOD content is decent enough. There should be more HD downloads (only nature programmes, blue planet etc and the odd film.)

betsvigi9 · 14-07-2009, 10:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by fortec.1981

I can only echo what Matterhorn said, BT Vision is awful, I am hoping ESPN start charging thus creating some sort of loophole that I can get out, as I only took BTV for Setanta.

When I first got it, for the first day or 2 I thought it was great, Look at all the stuff they have on it, then you realise its all bloody cr*p, never updated.

And the box is just annoying, It is slow and sluggish, the menu's are poorly laid out.

I live in hope that I can get out of this contract somehow, I have actually the box pulled out and watch the FTA channels on my Sky box, The are better than anything on BTV and that says alot.

In the end it is all about personal taste. It's not for everyone, but there is plenty of information online to find out what it is like and what is available on VOD before subscribing. If you can't be bothered to find out what you are subscribing to before you get something, then I'm afraid that you have to accept some responsibility if you find that you don't like it when you get it.

14-07-2009, 12:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by betsvigi9

In the end it is all about personal taste. It's not for everyone, but there is plenty of information online to find out what it is like and what is available on VOD before subscribing. If you can't be bothered to find out what you are subscribing to before you get something, then I'm afraid that you have to accept some responsibility if you find that you don't like it when you get it.

Really? Before I took it out I looked to see what programmes/movies were on it, couldn't find any info

betsvigi9 · 14-07-2009, 13:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by fortec.1981

Really? Before I took it out I looked to see what programmes/movies were on it, couldn't find any info

Not the most user friendly, but is there if you dig around a bit and gives a good idea of what is provided.

http://www.btvision.bt.com/search-a-to-z/

together with the less comprehensive but more user friendly:

http://www.btvision.bt.com/

14-07-2009, 13:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by betsvigi9

Not the most user friendly, but is there if you dig around a bit and gives a good idea of what is provided.

http://www.btvision.bt.com/search-a-to-z/

together with the less comprehensive but more user friendly:

http://www.btvision.bt.com/

Na that wasn't there when I took it out 5 months ago because I asked on here prior and there was nothing

CloughOfFife · 14-07-2009, 18:58

I love my BT Vision, a major improvement from Freeview/TUTV, in my opinion.

It really depends on what kind of stuff you like to watch I suppose, although I think the On Demand service caters to most tastes, and new stuff is added every Thursday (although I wish that the History Channel/Discovery etc received much more new stuff, although there is already some very cool stuff on there).

You'll definetely notice the improvement from TUTV, good luck with it and I hope you enjoy it as much as me

14-07-2009, 19:04

I think I notice a trend here, If you come from TUTV it seems to be an improvement, From Sky a dissapointment. TUTV must be bad.

betsvigi9 · 14-07-2009, 19:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by fortec.1981

Na that wasn't there when I took it out 5 months ago because I asked on here prior and there was nothing

If you say so.

puckbunny · 14-07-2009, 20:29

I moved from Sky to BT Vision a couple of months ago and I love it , I never bothered with movies or sport on sky so I just had the basic variety pack and for me I get more choice from the OD service than I ever did watching endless repeats on sky.
I set it up myself in about 5 mins and was watching OD stuff about half an hour after the postie delivered it

stuntmaster · 14-07-2009, 22:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by fortec.1981

I think I notice a trend here, If you come from TUTV it seems to be an improvement, 1. From Sky a dissapointment. 2. TUTV must be bad.

1. most people from sky want the same service and when they realise its only freeview + VOD they feel dissapointed and moan about freeviews quality. after having sky for so long. extras like full red button on sky and some extra recording features arn't avaliable in vision yet.

2. TUTV did have a few issues way back. it's much better now infact amlost faultless. problem is many think it's stolen the free space from freeview and have a severe vendetta against it.... Matterhorn, Padre, acoolwelshbloke, Andrew19, and Azimo, are a few said haters. they take their time to de-rail new users to the service. I have both Vision and TUTV and they both work like a dream. Can't fault either.

In general Vision is excellent, however i think they should update more frequently like TUTV do and they seriously need to get HD on the go. Especially HD replay. what I would like to see is a feature to Auto download some things from the HD section per night so say 1 film, 2-3 episodes from some tv series and a slection of replay stuff which you select when enabling auto.

1saintly · 14-07-2009, 22:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark1971uk

hi could anyone tell me what the pros and cons of having bt vision is please..

any well known faults that will pop up and how erasy is it to use..

many thanks

Wouldn't it have been better for you to ask those questions before you ordered it

mark1971uk · 15-07-2009, 08:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1saintly

Wouldn't it have been better for you to ask those questions before you ordered it

thanks for your many replies and taking time out to read my post...

i just wanted a heads up on any problems that may arise so i dont have to keep ringing bt if they cant do nothing..

plus its always handy to be forwarned bout things so your not pulling ya hair out afterwards

seems like a load people like this i actually cant wait now

mark1971uk · 15-07-2009, 08:10

plus 1saintly im a bit im patient lmfao...i need things now

stuntmaster · 15-07-2009, 11:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by mark1971uk

plus 1saintly im a bit im patient lmfao...i need things now

Don't worry you will be fine. It will go smoothly.

10-07-2009, 19:52	#1
mark1971uk Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: middlesbrough Posts: 293	bt vision installed next week hi could anyone tell me what the pros and cons of having bt vision is please.. any well known faults that will pop up and how erasy is it to use.. many thanks

10-07-2009, 20:02	#2
Matterhorn Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 729	well it took BT ages to get mine operational, but has been fine since. Pros: Works well when set up properly TV replay You'll watch less TV Cons: VOD is majority awful Expensive Power Hungry box Poor, slow GUI Lousy customer services (BT in general) Lack of 'smart' padding can cause trouble Quiet sound output. Possible HDMI issues. Rubbish HD selection good luck to you fella I hope you like it. I won't be renewing mine when the contract falls due, no matter what they offer.

10-07-2009, 20:16	#3
mark1971uk Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: middlesbrough Posts: 293	thanks mate for ya prompt reply and taking time out for your info ;O) at least i have some things to look out for now

10-07-2009, 20:25	#4
Matterhorn Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 729	Depends what you've come from..... Sky, TUTV etc.... if you've come from Sky then I'm pretty sure you'll be disappointed but then again your mileage may vary..

10-07-2009, 20:27	#5
mark1971uk Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: middlesbrough Posts: 293	topuptv..i left due to the end of the discovery and real time downloads

10-07-2009, 20:31	#6
Matterhorn Inactive Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 729	Quote: Originally Posted by mark1971uk topuptv..i left due to the end of the discovery and real time downloads ah, well in that case you'll see a definite improvement. Replay is invaluable IMO.

12-07-2009, 08:06	#7
betsvigi9 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Huddersfield Posts: 389	Quote: Originally Posted by Matterhorn well it took BT ages to get mine operational, but has been fine since. Pros: Works well when set up properly TV replay You'll watch less TV Cons: VOD is majority awful Expensive Power Hungry box Poor, slow GUI Lousy customer services (BT in general) Lack of 'smart' padding can cause trouble Quiet sound output. Possible HDMI issues. Rubbish HD selection good luck to you fella I hope you like it. I won't be renewing mine when the contract falls due, no matter what they offer. VOD is great, I use it all the time. Don't bother with the VOD films though, too expensive. For me, it's great value for money with Setanta, without it well we'll have to see if ESPN is included. The box uses a lot of power, even in standby. BT are looking into improving this Never had a problem with the GUI, although it is slightly slower than some, doesn't bother me at all Not had a problem with customer services either, compared to Talk Talk they are absolutely marvelous I don't think that not being able to pad causes problems, so much as the lack of accurate recording, which isn't possible with BT's own EPG. Having said that it has only caused me the odd problem, usually on BBC, which was easily resolved with TV replay. The sound output is pretty much the same as my humax, you just have to turn it up a little bit, big deal! HDMI works perfectly, never had a problem the picture is great. Not much HD yet, but then that really doesn't bother me. If you want HD, then I'm not sure why you would be getting BT Vision. Like I said above, with an HDMI cable the picture is excellent anyway. I have had Vision since last November and I can say that overall I have been very happy with it; I subscribe to the bronze pack. I got it because of the 'free' Setanta offer and I almost certainly wouldn't have bothered without that offer. I already subscribed to Setanta and so overall, it only cost me about £3 a month extra to get BT Vision. As I said above, I'm waiting to see what they come up with as far as ESPN is concerned. If they try to charge extra, then I will be downgrading to the TV pack only and I'll wait and see if what ESPN are offering is worth paying for. Unlike Matterhorn, I do like BT Vision and in particular I love working my way through the entire series of VOD programmes that I didn't watch when they were broadcast. If I got rid of Vision, I would definitely miss the VOD service, which is why even if I downgrade, I'm unlikely to get rid of it altogether. Happy viewing.

12-07-2009, 13:51	#8
levineg Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Manchester Posts: 319	I have been with BT Vision for the last 3 months. I am happy with it overall but one of the most frustrating things about BT is the time it takes to upload ITV content to the On Demand. Most of the ITV Programmes can take 24-48 hours to upload to the platform rather than being available on the same night of broadcast. However I have not noticed any time delays with the other channels ie bbc, channel4 and 5. BT Vision is rather expensive and cannot see myself renewing after the 12 months. I am more happy with BT Broadband which is good value for money.

13-07-2009, 22:26	#9
stuntmaster Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Southampton - Hannington - TX Posts: 4,878	Quote: Originally Posted by Matterhorn well it took BT ages to get mine operational, but has been fine since. Pros: Works well when set up properly TV replay You'll watch less TV Cons: 1.VOD is majority awful Expensive 2.Power Hungry box 3.Poor, slow GUI Lousy customer services (BT in general) Lack of 'smart' padding can cause trouble 4.Quiet sound output. Possible HDMI issues. Rubbish HD selection good luck to you fella I hope you like it. I won't be renewing mine when the contract falls due, no matter what they offer. 1. VOD is not majorly awful, just takes longer to be updated, I find it fine for my needs. 2. not power hungry, its the same as many others. 3. Slow gui is down to the data being retrived live over the broadband, its actually nippy for me and I sync at 7.0mbps 4. Only on SOME vod. BT is very good for what it does. HDMI issues are down to handshaking the HDCP protocol so the TV will output but you'll get no audio. Like me. it is improoving slowly. BT have something up their sleeve.

14-07-2009, 09:14	#10
fortec.1981 Posts: n/a	I can only echo what Matterhorn said, BT Vision is awful, I am hoping ESPN start charging thus creating some sort of loophole that I can get out, as I only took BTV for Setanta. When I first got it, for the first day or 2 I thought it was great, Look at all the stuff they have on it, then you realise its all bloody cr*p, never updated. And the box is just annoying, It is slow and sluggish, the menu's are poorly laid out. I live in hope that I can get out of this contract somehow, I have actually the box pulled out and watch the FTA channels on my Sky box, The are better than anything on BTV and that says alot.

14-07-2009, 09:28	#11
scotty2808 Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 435	Some feedback. I've had BTV for just over a year. I've had a subscription for ~10months (when the football season started). VOD - the 4OD/5On Demand/ BBC etc - I find this is superb. The quality is very good and with v.few exceptions (eg. Local news) most stuff is on. I rate it highly. It it the main BTV component that I would pay more for to get more HD content. HDMI - there is an issue but it doesn't impact on everyone. Luck of the draw (and depends on you TV manufacturer). Sometimes when turning the tv on it takes a few secs for the pic to kick in and an error message is displayed. This goes away after a few secs. HDMI Picture Quality - Set the box up so the signal is 720 or 1080i and it upscales. The quality of the BBC channels is superb IMO. The other main broadcasters are good too. Freeview signal strength will also go up with the digital switchover improving others. VOD - TV Pack - Mixed bag. I don't use it as much now. Just found some new content from CBS to watch. There is a lot of content on it. It rotates every couple of months. HD TV- you have to download it and watch it several hours later. Selection poor. HD Films - reasonable selection - it is ok if you are organised enough on a Thursday to say you will be in on a Friday night to watch it. HD Films are not charged until you "start" watching them which makes sense.

14-07-2009, 10:10	#12
steveq3 Forum Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Chester UK Posts: 639	It takes a good 3-5 minues to start up from cold. That's my only gripe with it. Otherwise the content is great, Replay is invaluable. VOD content is decent enough. There should be more HD downloads (only nature programmes, blue planet etc and the odd film.)

14-07-2009, 10:20	#13
betsvigi9 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Huddersfield Posts: 389	Quote: Originally Posted by fortec.1981 I can only echo what Matterhorn said, BT Vision is awful, I am hoping ESPN start charging thus creating some sort of loophole that I can get out, as I only took BTV for Setanta. When I first got it, for the first day or 2 I thought it was great, Look at all the stuff they have on it, then you realise its all bloody cr*p, never updated. And the box is just annoying, It is slow and sluggish, the menu's are poorly laid out. I live in hope that I can get out of this contract somehow, I have actually the box pulled out and watch the FTA channels on my Sky box, The are better than anything on BTV and that says alot. In the end it is all about personal taste. It's not for everyone, but there is plenty of information online to find out what it is like and what is available on VOD before subscribing. If you can't be bothered to find out what you are subscribing to before you get something, then I'm afraid that you have to accept some responsibility if you find that you don't like it when you get it.

14-07-2009, 12:36	#14
fortec.1981 Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by betsvigi9 In the end it is all about personal taste. It's not for everyone, but there is plenty of information online to find out what it is like and what is available on VOD before subscribing. If you can't be bothered to find out what you are subscribing to before you get something, then I'm afraid that you have to accept some responsibility if you find that you don't like it when you get it. Really? Before I took it out I looked to see what programmes/movies were on it, couldn't find any info

14-07-2009, 13:21	#15
betsvigi9 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Huddersfield Posts: 389	Quote: Originally Posted by fortec.1981 Really? Before I took it out I looked to see what programmes/movies were on it, couldn't find any info Not the most user friendly, but is there if you dig around a bit and gives a good idea of what is provided. http://www.btvision.bt.com/search-a-to-z/ together with the less comprehensive but more user friendly: http://www.btvision.bt.com/

14-07-2009, 13:31	#16
fortec.1981 Posts: n/a	Quote: Originally Posted by betsvigi9 Not the most user friendly, but is there if you dig around a bit and gives a good idea of what is provided. http://www.btvision.bt.com/search-a-to-z/ together with the less comprehensive but more user friendly: http://www.btvision.bt.com/ Na that wasn't there when I took it out 5 months ago because I asked on here prior and there was nothing

14-07-2009, 18:58	#17
CloughOfFife Forum Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: scotland Posts: 1,934	I love my BT Vision, a major improvement from Freeview/TUTV, in my opinion. It really depends on what kind of stuff you like to watch I suppose, although I think the On Demand service caters to most tastes, and new stuff is added every Thursday (although I wish that the History Channel/Discovery etc received much more new stuff, although there is already some very cool stuff on there). You'll definetely notice the improvement from TUTV, good luck with it and I hope you enjoy it as much as me

14-07-2009, 19:04	#18
fortec.1981 Posts: n/a	I think I notice a trend here, If you come from TUTV it seems to be an improvement, From Sky a dissapointment. TUTV must be bad.

14-07-2009, 20:29	#20
puckbunny Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Fife Posts: 26,676	I moved from Sky to BT Vision a couple of months ago and I love it , I never bothered with movies or sport on sky so I just had the basic variety pack and for me I get more choice from the OD service than I ever did watching endless repeats on sky. I set it up myself in about 5 mins and was watching OD stuff about half an hour after the postie delivered it

14-07-2009, 22:03	#21
stuntmaster Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Southampton - Hannington - TX Posts: 4,878	Quote: Originally Posted by fortec.1981 I think I notice a trend here, If you come from TUTV it seems to be an improvement, 1. From Sky a dissapointment. 2. TUTV must be bad. 1. most people from sky want the same service and when they realise its only freeview + VOD they feel dissapointed and moan about freeviews quality. after having sky for so long. extras like full red button on sky and some extra recording features arn't avaliable in vision yet. 2. TUTV did have a few issues way back. it's much better now infact amlost faultless. problem is many think it's stolen the free space from freeview and have a severe vendetta against it.... Matterhorn, Padre, acoolwelshbloke, Andrew19, and Azimo, are a few said haters. they take their time to de-rail new users to the service. I have both Vision and TUTV and they both work like a dream. Can't fault either. In general Vision is excellent, however i think they should update more frequently like TUTV do and they seriously need to get HD on the go. Especially HD replay. what I would like to see is a feature to Auto download some things from the HD section per night so say 1 film, 2-3 episodes from some tv series and a slection of replay stuff which you select when enabling auto.

14-07-2009, 22:45	#22
1saintly Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3,665	Quote: Originally Posted by mark1971uk hi could anyone tell me what the pros and cons of having bt vision is please.. any well known faults that will pop up and how erasy is it to use.. many thanks Wouldn't it have been better for you to ask those questions before you ordered it

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15-07-2009, 08:08	#23
mark1971uk Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: middlesbrough Posts: 293	Quote: Originally Posted by 1saintly Wouldn't it have been better for you to ask those questions before you ordered it thanks for your many replies and taking time out to read my post... i just wanted a heads up on any problems that may arise so i dont have to keep ringing bt if they cant do nothing.. plus its always handy to be forwarned bout things so your not pulling ya hair out afterwards seems like a load people like this i actually cant wait now

15-07-2009, 08:10	#24
mark1971uk Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: middlesbrough Posts: 293	plus 1saintly im a bit im patient lmfao...i need things now

15-07-2009, 11:58	#25
stuntmaster Forum Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Southampton - Hannington - TX Posts: 4,878	Quote: Originally Posted by mark1971uk plus 1saintly im a bit im patient lmfao...i need things now Don't worry you will be fine. It will go smoothly.