I noticed the lack of positive feedback from the pros about it- their silence is deafening
How do you think the pros regard Alesha's appointment
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Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“Conn Iggulden made the comment that men like looking at beautiful women - has it not occurred to anyone that perhaps women like looking at beautiful men!
Why dispense with Arlene's services and retain those of Len and Bruno.
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“Conn Iggulden made the comment that men like looking at beautiful women - has it not occurred to anyone that perhaps women like looking at beautiful men!
Why dispense with Arlene's services and retain those of Len and Bruno.
”
I'm sure if Bruno read Jay Hunt's comments he'd be delighted to discover that Ms Hunt thinks he is a joker
I would imagine the appointment of Alesha
as judge is a bit like the tail wagging the dog for the professionals.
as judge is a bit like the tail wagging the dog for the professionals.
The Pro Dancer's can be very protective of their celebrity dancers and may not take it very kindly if Alesha says something they believe to be out of line - and IMO they will be actively looking for her to say something wrong.
Can you imagine Brendan's, James' or even Karen's (if she's still dancing) reactions if Alesha says something they don't agree with
I think they'll be nice with her at first but after a few weeks they'll go for the kill!
Can you imagine Brendan's, James' or even Karen's (if she's still dancing) reactions if Alesha says something they don't agree with
I think they'll be nice with her at first but after a few weeks they'll go for the kill!
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“I'm sure if Bruno read Jay Hunt's comments he'd be delighted to discover that Ms Hunt thinks he is a joker”
“I'm sure if Bruno read Jay Hunt's comments he'd be delighted to discover that Ms Hunt thinks he is a joker”
To be fair she wasn't far out...Take off the 'r' and she'd be closer to the truth though
Young Alesha has not hung up her dancing shoes has she? One day, say for Christmas and charity events, she may be dancing again with her partner Matthew. Is she going to comment and mark exactly as she wants when Matthew and celeb stand in front of her?
The other 3 judges have worked together for six years, united in defending themselves against all criticism. But they had no hesitation at times blasting 64-year-old Arlene, one of their own. How will the oldtimers treat new girl Alesha?
Darcey Bussell would be a different kettle of fish. Darcey is world class and has a vast following. No pantomime judge will dare take the mickey.
The other 3 judges have worked together for six years, united in defending themselves against all criticism. But they had no hesitation at times blasting 64-year-old Arlene, one of their own. How will the oldtimers treat new girl Alesha?
Darcey Bussell would be a different kettle of fish. Darcey is world class and has a vast following. No pantomime judge will dare take the mickey.
I don't think they'd be too happy. I really can't see Brendan being happy if she says anything about the choreography of one of his dances.
But I don't think they'd come out and SAY anything about it either. As much as people like Brendan, Karen and James can get heated amongst themselves and the judges I don't think they'd really care what Alesha said about the dancing other then if she said anything about them or the partners personally which they thought out of order. And as its Alesha she'll probably love everyone anyway
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But I don't think they'd come out and SAY anything about it either. As much as people like Brendan, Karen and James can get heated amongst themselves and the judges I don't think they'd really care what Alesha said about the dancing other then if she said anything about them or the partners personally which they thought out of order. And as its Alesha she'll probably love everyone anyway
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Originally Posted by footygirl:
“I noticed the lack of positive feedback from the pros about it- their silence is deafening”
“I noticed the lack of positive feedback from the pros about it- their silence is deafening”
Think of it this way - if your boss (presuming you have a boss and are not the boss yourself) employed someone you didn't approve of, you would have to be very careful what you said or risk maybe putting your own job in jeapordy.
The Strictly pros are in a similar situation, if they want to keep their Strictly jobs, and I can almost guarantee that they do. The money is far better than anything they would be earning if they were relying simply on teaching.
For quite a few years now, getting regular students has been erratic, as less people in UK are taking lessons, and with the recession it is even more difficult. Many a good teacher/coach is having to look outside dance to earn their crust.
Originally Posted by kaycee:
“Think of it this way - if your boss (presuming you have a boss and are not the boss yourself) employed someone you didn't approve of, you would have to be very careful what you said or risk maybe putting your own job in jeapordy.
The Strictly pros are in a similar situation, if they want to keep their Strictly jobs, and I can almost guarantee that they do. The money is far better than anything they would be earning if they were relying simply on teaching.
For quite a few years now, getting regular students has been erratic, as less people in UK are taking lessons, and with the recession it is even more difficult. Many a good teacher/coach is having to look outside dance to earn their crust.”
“Think of it this way - if your boss (presuming you have a boss and are not the boss yourself) employed someone you didn't approve of, you would have to be very careful what you said or risk maybe putting your own job in jeapordy.
The Strictly pros are in a similar situation, if they want to keep their Strictly jobs, and I can almost guarantee that they do. The money is far better than anything they would be earning if they were relying simply on teaching.
For quite a few years now, getting regular students has been erratic, as less people in UK are taking lessons, and with the recession it is even more difficult. Many a good teacher/coach is having to look outside dance to earn their crust.”
I agree the pros are not likely to speak out about Alesha's appointment before the series starts. I think that some may be able to shoe horn any complaint they have about it once the show starts and make it part of a response to any complaint they have about Alesha's voting etc. Remember how James spoke out about John Sergeant, and Brendan has spoken out about the judges, but it has all been done during the run of the show and they have got away with having opinions because such opinions are connected to ongoing matters.
I agree with the above post and believe they will not speak out due to fears about their own jobs. Yet another example I feel of how much our pros are taken for granted. Yes they do earn more money than they may earn outside of SCD in regular dancing jobs, but they work 7 days a week rehearsing with the celebs and doing the show dances, and they are paid the least; a fraction of what some earn. I know they have a choice to appear on SCD but I feel they are put upon and this is another example of the role of the pro noting being given sufficient kudos.
Originally Posted by kaycee:
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For quite a few years now, getting regular students has been erratic, as less people in UK are taking lessons, and with the recession it is even more difficult. Many a good teacher/coach is having to look outside dance to earn their crust.”
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For quite a few years now, getting regular students has been erratic, as less people in UK are taking lessons, and with the recession it is even more difficult. Many a good teacher/coach is having to look outside dance to earn their crust.”
That's alarming news from an insider. Dancers have to eat too, and pay the mortgage. If that is the situation after Strictly, what was the situation before Strictly?
Dance is something enthusiasts want to do, not have to do. If Strictly is to popularise dance in the UK, Brucie and the self-promoting judges need to remember that only smiling couch potatoes would go out to a dip a toe on the dance floor. SCD6 went feelbad for weeks at a time.
Many do not go ballroom dancing for lack of a suitable partner. Whereas unpaired competition dancers have matchmaking websites for locating suitable partners, social dancers do not. I myself gave up dance lessons for lack of a suitable partner.
Perhaps the ISTD could look into this?
Originally Posted by soulmate61:
“Many do not go ballroom dancing for lack of a suitable partner. Whereas unpaired competition dancers have matchmaking websites for locating suitable partners, social dancers do not. I myself gave up dance lessons for lack of a suitable partner.
Perhaps the ISTD could look into this?”
“Many do not go ballroom dancing for lack of a suitable partner. Whereas unpaired competition dancers have matchmaking websites for locating suitable partners, social dancers do not. I myself gave up dance lessons for lack of a suitable partner.
Perhaps the ISTD could look into this?”
Surely not soulmate. How could a man not find a suitable partner in the world of dancing?
Believe me it's much more difficult for a woman to find one!
Don't want her as a judge.
What happens if Matthew and his partner do a crap dance and she gives them decent marks?
Bias will be screamed from the rooftops.
What happens if Matthew and his partner do a crap dance and she gives them decent marks?
Bias will be screamed from the rooftops.
Originally Posted by Ignazio:
“Conn Iggulden made the comment that men like looking at beautiful women - has it not occurred to anyone that perhaps women like looking at beautiful men!
Why dispense with Arlene's services and retain those of Len and Bruno.”
“Conn Iggulden made the comment that men like looking at beautiful women - has it not occurred to anyone that perhaps women like looking at beautiful men!
Why dispense with Arlene's services and retain those of Len and Bruno.
”
At least Arlene wasn't jetting to and fro across the Atlantic each week!
There are beautiful women amongst the contestants and pro dancers. I think the BBC has done this to be controversial and it's worked. The next step will be Brendan telling Alesha she doesn't know what she's talking about.
Originally Posted by Spinaker5:
“At least Arlene wasn't jetting to and fro across the Atlantic each week!
There are beautiful women amongst the contestants and pro dancers. I think the BBC has done this to be controversial and it's worked. The next step will be Brendan telling Alesha she doesn't know what she's talking about.”
“At least Arlene wasn't jetting to and fro across the Atlantic each week!
There are beautiful women amongst the contestants and pro dancers. I think the BBC has done this to be controversial and it's worked. The next step will be Brendan telling Alesha she doesn't know what she's talking about.
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I think you may be right you know! When this was announced I thought, ' Well I could imagine Brendan or James having a paddy at some of her comments,' and, in a way, I was looking forward to it a bit. Hmmmmmm.....is SCD to become as stagemanaged as on the other side?.... this could all be exactly what they want couldn't it?Not liking this.
I am sure they will regard her as a joke. Can you imagine Brendan, Anton, Erin, Ian etc who have spent all their lives dancing, competing and teaching hearing criticism from someone who has just spent a few months learning to dance.
I am amazed she even has the nerve to accept such a task. We have to tell that Controller of BBC1 he's making a monumental mistake and appoint Karen, Camilla or another dancer/judge.
I am amazed she even has the nerve to accept such a task. We have to tell that Controller of BBC1 he's making a monumental mistake and appoint Karen, Camilla or another dancer/judge.
According to an article in the Mirror some pro's have expressed their lack of enthusiasm about it (no surprise considering that Anton expressed his view on TWS not long ago when it was just a rumour) but are unlikely to say so publicly (no surprise either).
I think it's a mistake for the beeb to take them too much for granted - which I think they do already personally - and that for most of them, their world won't end when Strictly does
I think it's a mistake for the beeb to take them too much for granted - which I think they do already personally - and that for most of them, their world won't end when Strictly does
Link to Mirror article:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/...5875-21513018/
Difficult to tell how accurate it is, since no names are mentioned, but am assuming that there must be a smidgeon of truth. It is interesting that Alesha is reported to be getting 10% more than the other judges.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/celebs/news/...5875-21513018/
Difficult to tell how accurate it is, since no names are mentioned, but am assuming that there must be a smidgeon of truth. It is interesting that Alesha is reported to be getting 10% more than the other judges.
Oh well, that should stoke the fire up a bit more! Oh dear oh dear
100K for doing the show? Surely not?
100K for doing the show? Surely not?
Yes, perhaps a bit provocative of me to point this out. Especially since I do like Alesha and for me it isn't about money but suitability for this particular job.
It is surprising though (if true, and I guess it might not be), since everyone else in the entertainment business seems to be taking pay cuts.
It is surprising though (if true, and I guess it might not be), since everyone else in the entertainment business seems to be taking pay cuts.
Well the last fantastically impossible Strictly story they ran turned out to be true VL!
I'm starting to find this whole thing quite bewildering and disheartening tbh...If things go on like they have for the next two months, by the time Strictly actually starts I'd probably rather watch my feet being eaten by pirahna fish than tune in to the show I've been avidly following for years...*groans*
I'm starting to find this whole thing quite bewildering and disheartening tbh...If things go on like they have for the next two months, by the time Strictly actually starts I'd probably rather watch my feet being eaten by pirahna fish than tune in to the show I've been avidly following for years...*groans*
Yes, I'm feeling much the same. It's a shame because 'entertainment shows' are two a penny. As are reality shows, or combinations of the two genres. But this is the only dance show we have.
Originally Posted by SideshowStu:
“Well the last fantastically impossible Strictly story they ran turned out to be true VL!
I'm starting to find this whole thing quite bewildering and disheartening tbh...If things go on like they have for the next two months, by the time Strictly actually starts I'd probably rather watch my feet being eaten by pirahna fish than tune in to the show I've been avidly following for years...*groans*”
“Well the last fantastically impossible Strictly story they ran turned out to be true VL!
I'm starting to find this whole thing quite bewildering and disheartening tbh...If things go on like they have for the next two months, by the time Strictly actually starts I'd probably rather watch my feet being eaten by pirahna fish than tune in to the show I've been avidly following for years...*groans*”
Me too
I've loved this show since the start but now I'm not even looking forward to the new season starting 
If that Mirror article is correct I don't think it's just the Pro Dancers who are going to be up in arms about her. What exactly has Alesha done to deserve 100k? MORE THAN THE OTHER JUDGES! They were told to take a pay DEcrease, no wonder! To pay for Alesha who IMO is not worth a tenth of it
And it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest that no one at the BBC had the guts to tell Arlene to her face, the cowards!! How exactly WOULD they explain to her that she was getting replaced by a younger, glamour girl who has hardly any knowledge of dance?
This has definitely taken the shine off the show for me
Originally Posted by footygirl:
“I noticed the lack of positive feedback from the pros about it- their silence is deafening”
“I noticed the lack of positive feedback from the pros about it- their silence is deafening”
I would imagine that their contracts do not allow them to voice criticism of any aspect of the show - and they have 30,000 reasons to keep to the terms of the contracts.
Originally Posted by CaroUK:
“I would imagine that their contracts do not allow them to voice criticism of any aspect of the show - and they have 30,000 reasons to keep to the terms of the contracts.”
“I would imagine that their contracts do not allow them to voice criticism of any aspect of the show - and they have 30,000 reasons to keep to the terms of the contracts.”
Imagine how they must feel - knowing Alesha is being paid 3 times as much as them to make a judgement on the skills they've honed for years: most of them since they were children.
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