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HDMI cables
I've just purchased a Sony Blu-Ray S360 player to compliment my Humax Freesat+ and Sony 40W5500.
Unlike the the Humax Freesat+, the Sony S360 comes with no HDMI cable. The shop avised me to get a good quality Cat2 V1.3c cable for my s360. This brings me to my question - What is the specification of the HDMI cable supplied with the Humax Freesat+? Also, has any seem any quality changes using any other hi spec cables? |
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I use 3 of them on my various setups, they are all cheapies from ebay. My neighbour bought a "Good" one from the high street at £20 needless to say it's no better.
HDMI cables work or they don't work, there's no difference in quality. I even use a cheapy ebay 10m (not really recommended) HDMI cable to connect an xbox to a bedroom, and it works great, cost me £8 ![]() Don't be ripped off, whatever you decide. ![]() There's tons of the little blighters on the online tat bazzar. ![]() http://electronics.shop.ebay.co.uk/i..._sopZ15QQ_scZ1 |
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The shop avised me to get a good quality Cat2 V1.3c cable for my s360.
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They advised you that because they make an obscene profit from it - a £5 HDMI lead will work just as perfectly as your expensive one.
As a rule though any HDMI cable should do the job admirably. Don't pay silly money for one though. A number of people I know have paid £80+ and have developed emperors new clothes syndrome when it comes to picture quality. |
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I bought 2x 2 metre HDMI cables (Tevion Brand) from Aldi couple of weeks ago... £3.99
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Also, has any seem any quality changes using any other hi spec cables?
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The expensive cables are a con (the best one Ive seen is £1500 for a standard computer/kettle type cable), the picture will be exactly the same as its digital, either the 1s and 0s get there or they dont.
The only way dearer cables could be of any benefit is if you are getting interference on the cheaper ones. |
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The expensive cables are a con (the best one Ive seen is £1500 for a standard computer/kettle type cable), the picture will be exactly the same as its digital, either the 1s and 0s get there or they dont.
![]() Worth every penny, i say, worth every penny.
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The expensive cables are a con (the best one Ive seen is £1500 for a standard computer/kettle type cable), the picture will be exactly the same as its digital, either the 1s and 0s get there or they dont.
The only way dearer cables could be of any benefit is if you are getting interference on the cheaper ones. If a £3.99 one works, then an expensive one will be no better. |
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Absolute rubbish Flyer 10, i wouldn't buy anything cheaper than that, why ? "Because i'm worth it."
![]() Worth every penny, i say, worth every penny. ![]() Eventually he got taken to trading standards and had to town down the claims. I wish I still remembered the url of it. |
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The Gadget Show on Ch 5 tested HDMI cables some time ago using a cheap one and a very expensive one in a side by side test. No one was able to tell the difference for everyday use.
I think they concluded that the expensive ones are not worth the money but not sure as I was distracted by Suzi Perry
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The guys website was hilarious, he said youd be able to hear the difference if you used it on your amp,
Eventually he got taken to trading standards and had to town down the claims. I wish I still remembered the url of it. ![]() http://www.russandrews.com/product.a...HRMSXUDYBJCLSZ I can highly recommend the 2m version, I use it on my Toaster, makes wonderful toast. ![]() Graham. |
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Hilarious surely has to be russabbott not russandrews?
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Is this the one you were looking for ?
![]() http://www.russandrews.com/product.a...HRMSXUDYBJCLSZ I can highly recommend the 2m version, I use it on my Toaster, makes wonderful toast. ![]() Graham. Personally I think it must be footballers buying crap like that. |
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Slightly off topic, but in my previous life I would spend up to £1500 per meter on coax cables, but they came with:
* a calibration certificate * a calibration chart generated from a RF network analyser They were made with special metal alloys (including precious metals) and could be hand made to the length I ordered. But in my defense they were calibrated to 18GHz for reference measurements and I did use them for SHF work! I never could justify the thousands for the calibrated torque spanner set for RF connectors (SMA, etc) from Agilent. |
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Thats the one, I bet you can really taste the difference! Only morons would buy that, the sad thing is there are enough morons in the world to make a site like that successful.
Personally I think it must be footballers buying crap like that. "silver conductors insulated with Teflon for very low resistance" Personally I prefer PVC ( ) as it has quite a high resistance which stops me from getting 230 Volts up my arm should I touch it etc.etc.etc. I would have a guess that it was Bankers (Cockney rhyming slang) who bought that stuff.
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I think I had this argument with someone about optical audio cables once. And about CD-R. It will never end!
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Someone said different CDRs make the sound better than others?
Analogue cables get better with the more you spend but most people wont notice the difference except when they upgrade the bellwire. With digital, either the 1s and 0s get there or they dont. Audiophiles are complete freaks when it comes to outlandish claims. |
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Well better quality CDR's can handle high speeds of read/write and work in more/different hardware, but if you can get your music onto one and play it back, it's a digital replication same any other CDR.
I think it was an audiophile that insisted otherwise, even if I could demonstrate this with a binary comparison. |
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LOL, I love reading threads like this. All the jealous fools who can't afford to spend ridiculous amounts of money on their system, calling those that do, offensive names.
If I could afford to spend £1,000s on my system I would definitely buy the very best cables available just to get the absolutely best sound/picture possible. Unfortunately I'm not that rich On the other hand, for those who don't really think silly little things like RFI or CDR can make a difference (albeit slight) I suggest you read up on 'Jitter' - go on - you know you can FWSE it. Lastly, don't forget that in electronics there is no such thing as 'true digital', it is ALL analogue. To transmit a perfect digital signal on a wire you'd need a cable with infinite bandwidth (a square wave is the sum of an infinite number of frequencies).
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Slightly off topic, but in my previous life I would spend up to £1500 per meter on coax cables, but they came with:
* a calibration certificate * a calibration chart generated from a RF network analyser They were made with special metal alloys (including precious metals) and could be hand made to the length I ordered. But in my defense they were calibrated to 18GHz for reference measurements and I did use them for SHF work! I never could justify the thousands for the calibrated torque spanner set for RF connectors (SMA, etc) from Agilent. Spectrum analiser ?
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To transmit a perfect digital signal on a wire you'd need a cable with infinite bandwidth (a square wave is the sum of an infinite number of frequencies).
I can afford a £100 HDMI cable, but when it's the same as a £3 I'll spend the money on a few bottle of bourbon instead. My loss. |
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When I went out to buy a HDMI cable I looked at the so called expensive cables in the shops.
The reason why I spent £20 on a ok cable was simple non of these cables actually had on the boxes any real specifications. ie frequency cutoffs, max length etc not even a frequency graph. So have to say spending £100 on a cable just because the box says its better than a £20 cheaper cable simply doesn't cut. Personally for the small lengths we are using for most connections at home <2m in length I would suggest there will be no noticeable difference. Its when you are using longer lengths you will need higher quality. But I like to know that the cable I am buying is actually worth buying first. |
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I can afford a £100 HDMI cable, but when it's the same as a £3 I'll spend the money on a few bottle of bourbon instead. My loss.
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On the other hand, for those who don't really think silly little things like RFI or CDR can make a difference (albeit slight) I suggest you read up on 'Jitter' - go on - you know you can FWSE it. Lastly, don't forget that in electronics there is no such thing as 'true digital', it is ALL analogue. To transmit a perfect digital signal on a wire you'd need a cable with infinite bandwidth (a square wave is the sum of an infinite number of frequencies).
Spectrum analiser ?