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I've stated again and again that I don't think that Arlene should have been replaced with Alesha who just doesn't have the gravitas to be taken seriously IMO. The other judges and the pro dancers may draw attention to her lack of knowledge and experience without any malicious intent! I have a feeling that Alesha may be completely out of her depth. I hope not. Until this occurance I always liked her (if not her laugh
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What a backlash! I think it will be good to get an ex-contestant's perspective, Alesha does have a right to comment, having put in all that hard work herself and then won the bloody thing! She's not a complete layman. And as for not being taken seriously, what about Arelene? She seemed to care more about what she was going to say abut the dancing, than the dancing itself.
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I've said similar to you reclinewithme, on another thread. If Arlene WERE being replaced with someone with similar qualifications/experience then I could actually understand the furore more! As it is someone has come onto the panel to judge from the perspective of a former contestant/winner (and probably the most popular one at that).
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She'll smile prettily, speak a bit about the dancing. Surface stuff and without any technical content and her scores will be in line with most of the panel. After all she will hear what the other judges (I mean the REAL judges) say. Will there any point in having her there, hearing her 'thoughts' and listening to platitudes? Absolutely not.
You people who are saying that Alesha is qualified due to having been on the show herself have fundamentally misunderstood what and how long it takes to be really knowledgable about dancing. |
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I think that they should have kept Arlene and made Alesha the fifth judge, that would have added something to the show instead of detracting from it.
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She'll smile prettily, speak a bit about the dancing. Surface stuff and without any technical content and her scores will be in line with most of the panel. After all she will hear what the other judges (I mean the REAL judges) say. Will there any point in having her there, hearing her 'thoughts' and listening to platitudes? Absolutely not.
You people who are saying that Alesha is qualified due to having been on the show herself have fundamentally misunderstood what and how long it takes to be really knowledgable about dancing. With three experienced judges on the panel, maybe they are looking for a "lay persons" point of view. But that wouldn't be valid I hear you say? Of course, as none of our opinions are valid on a Saturday. And if you agree with that then we have no right to dispute any scores or results. HOWEVER, we don't know what role Alesha (or Darcey) will have because you know what, the show hasn't started yet. But that hasn't stopped people losing their heads over assumptions and guesswork. I'll say to deaf ears agan. Why don't we just wait, see and then judge rather than judge before we know that facts. |
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Can you imagine how galling it is to be judged by someone who spent 16 weeks learning a routine? That's like asking someone who has taking singing lessons for three months to critique Placido Domingo! (slight extreme example, but you get the picture).
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Alesha is unqualified as a judge - unless you can show me something that suggests otherwise.
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Mind you, does suggest the bbc takes notice of viewers comments, and I'm not so sure it does!
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And perhaps that's our own fault. Or at least the fault of the highly vocal anti-judges' brigade that surfaced last year.
If the BBC want to avoid the 'us vs. them' mentality that surfaced last year, it makes sense for them to hire someone they think will be popular and who can bridge the gap between the two sides. |
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But she will be there to judge the amateur, not the professional. Occasionally the choreography is commented on but you don't hear the judges say "Great enegy but Anton your flicks and kicks weren't sharp enough"
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SCD was probably the only talent shows that had all judges with a dance background. What qualifications do Amanda Holden, Denise Van Outen, John Barrowman, Barry Humphreys, Cheryl Cole or Ruthie Henshall have other than been there, done that?
Just because other shows go for style over substance is no reason for SCD to go the same way.
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I think Alesha has made a wrong career move by being a judge on Strictly. Surely if they wanted a younger woman one of the professional dancers e.g. Karen or Camilla would have been a better judge than Alesha who is a pop singer!! Arlene sometimes embarrassed me with her comments to the young competitors and it looked a bit unseemly to see a woman of her age flirt like that. Entertaining it was not, in my opinion!! Nevertheless she has years of experiences and perhaps some of her comments could have been toned down a bit. I think Alesha will drive us all crazy with her manic laugh and cute comments. Now do not get my started on Len and the amazing about of coverage her got on It Takes Two with his master class and Question Time with Len etc.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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She'll smile prettily, speak a bit about the dancing. Surface stuff and without any technical content and her scores will be in line with most of the panel. After all she will hear what the other judges (I mean the REAL judges) say. Will there any point in having her there, hearing her 'thoughts' and listening to platitudes? Absolutely not.
You people who are saying that Alesha is qualified due to having been on the show herself have fundamentally misunderstood what and how long it takes to be really knowledgable about dancing. |
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Surely it's all about experience, background, & overall credibility - it's what really matters!
If Australia DWTS can have a judge like a respectable & experience Helen Richey, why can't they keep Arlene?? http://www.foreverdance.com.au/images/Helen_Richey.jpg |
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Surely it's all about experience, background, & overall credibility - it's what really matters!
If Australia DWTS can have a judge like a respectable & experience Helen Richey, why can't they keep Arlene?? http://www.foreverdance.com.au/images/Helen_Richey.jpg Britiain, and in particular, the BBC, has been accused of ageism many times in their attitude to women (Kate Adie, Moira Stewart and Selina Scott, to name just a few.) |
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I've stated again and again that I don't think that Arlene should have been replaced with Alesha who just doesn't have the gravitas to be taken seriously IMO.
Some people need to chill out, smell the coffee, get a life and give the girl a chance!!!!! JJ |
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She'll smile prettily, speak a bit about the dancing. Surface stuff and without any technical content and her scores will be in line with most of the panel. After all she will hear what the other judges (I mean the REAL judges) say. Will there any point in having her there, hearing her 'thoughts' and listening to platitudes? Absolutely not.
You people who are saying that Alesha is qualified due to having been on the show herself have fundamentally misunderstood what and how long it takes to be really knowledgable about dancing. "You people"??? Once again you are not allowing others to have an opinion different to yours. Quote:
Maybe some have fundamentally misunderstood Alesha's role.
With three experienced judges on the panel, maybe they are looking for a "lay persons" point of view. But that wouldn't be valid I hear you say? Of course, as none of our opinions are valid on a Saturday. And if you agree with that then we have no right to dispute any scores or results. HOWEVER, we don't know what role Alesha (or Darcey) will have because you know what, the show hasn't started yet. But that hasn't stopped people losing their heads over assumptions and guesswork. I'll say to deaf ears agan. Why don't we just wait, see and then judge rather than judge before we know that facts. |
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Why should she? Had Alesha not accepted the role, Arlene still would have got the chop anyway as clearly she wasn't wanted anymore. Frankly i think Alesha is wrong for this role but there's nothing anybody can do about it now other than stop watching, something i wont do. This agism bull is annoying me as well Bruce is 80 so they can't be that ageist
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I'm afraid I agree with HediB's point about what Alesha will most likely say and do. I don't say it out of malice, it's just that I can't see anything else she can say, and with well over 100 routines in a Strictly season to comment on, it could be a real problem for her...
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She'll smile prettily, speak a bit about the dancing. Surface stuff and without any technical content and her scores will be in line with most of the panel. After all she will hear what the other judges (I mean the REAL judges) say. Will there any point in having her there, hearing her 'thoughts' and listening to platitudes? Absolutely not.
You people who are saying that Alesha is qualified due to having been on the show herself have fundamentally misunderstood what and how long it takes to be really knowledgable about dancing. And exactly how long do the contestants have to become really knowledgable ? 4 days maybe each week, so what is the point of having highly trained judges when they are judging total beginners, I say this time and again, it is an entertainment programme, not the world bloody championships. if you dont like it you will find a big red button on your remote, that is the off switch , use it and stop bleating about something before you have even given it 30 seconds . |
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I'll say to deaf ears agan. Why don't we just wait, see and then judge rather than judge before we know that facts. |
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I think that they should have kept Arlene and made Alesha the fifth judge, that would have added something to the show instead of detracting from it.
They manage it on DOI. I would have been all for that. We don't have to hear every judge talk after every dance as that would be very time consuming (or they could make the programme slightly longer). That would have been a good panel as they would've all had different areas of expertise, including Alesha as an ex-contestant.Quote:
And Bruno has?????(lol)
Some people need to chill out, smell the coffee, get a life and give the girl a chance!!!!! JJ And for your information I HAVE chilled out (even with all the coffee!) and I've most definitely 'got a life'! Just because I comment/have an opinion on something that you disagree with, does not mean to say that I haven't got a life, I'm just very opinionated ![]() Quote:
I'm afraid I agree with HediB's point about what Alesha will most likely say and do. I don't say it out of malice, it's just that I can't see anything else she can say, and with well over 100 routines in a Strictly season to comment on, it could be a real problem for her...
I'm definitely starting to come round the the idea of Alesha though, she may be really good for all we know. I have my doubts but I genuinely hope she proves me wrong
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Because that would leave no more room for the bellicose, the bitchy and the backstabbers in this sordid little thread.
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Maybe some have fundamentally misunderstood Alesha's role.
With three experienced judges on the panel, maybe they are looking for a "lay persons" point of view. But that wouldn't be valid I hear you say? Of course, as none of our opinions are valid on a Saturday. And if you agree with that then we have no right to dispute any scores or results. HOWEVER, we don't know what role Alesha (or Darcey) will have because you know what, the show hasn't started yet. But that hasn't stopped people losing their heads over assumptions and guesswork. I'll say to deaf ears agan. Why don't we just wait, see and then judge rather than judge before we know that facts. |
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Alesha does know something about learning to dance. She was taught intensively, week after week, by Matthew Cutler. She is not an inexperienced novice, she's a Strictly champion! She didn't get there by smiling prettily and making inane comments. Why are people choosing to be so patronising?
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Alesha does know something about learning to dance. She was taught intensively, week after week, by Matthew Cutler. She is not an inexperienced novice, she's a Strictly champion! She didn't get there by smiling prettily and making inane comments. Why are people choosing to be so patronising?
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Some people are so self righteuos in my opinion ,. They dont like it so call for someone to resign .,
Why should she resign just to please some .? |
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