I am furious about Arlene being shuffled over to the One Show. Alesia's in NO position to be judging dancing just because she was good at it! The show has lost any credibility it once had so i wont be watching. Anyone else going to boycott SCD?
Is anyone else going to boycott the show?
No, I'll give it a chance. But if it's not any good I will make the decision to stop watching then (especially if my favourite pros don't take part or are eliminated early).
I'm not sure about what you say about the show losing credibility. Credibility in what sense? It was never very credible as a dance competition- you lose that as soon as you invite the general public to vote. Arlene, Bruno and Craig have never been all that credible as ballroom/latin judges, when that isn't their field of expertise (although obviously much more credible than Alesha).
It further lost credibility by bizarre judging- Arlene's attractive young men bias, Bruno and "his girls", Craig and Emma Bunton, Len and his SPORTSMAN fetish.
The only aspect of it which really makes it creditable in dance terms is the standard of the professional dancers- and even there the BBC would prefer to recruit Hayley Holt over Nicole Cutler.
Where it has credibility is as an entertainment show. I certainly don't defend the decision to recruit Alesha, which strikes me as absolutely barmy, but it's really one more step along the path it has been following for some time now.
I only really watch it for certain dance aspects, mainly the pro dances and the chance to watch my favourite dancers at work. As long as that aspect of the show remains, I will still enjoy it.
I'm not sure about what you say about the show losing credibility. Credibility in what sense? It was never very credible as a dance competition- you lose that as soon as you invite the general public to vote. Arlene, Bruno and Craig have never been all that credible as ballroom/latin judges, when that isn't their field of expertise (although obviously much more credible than Alesha).
It further lost credibility by bizarre judging- Arlene's attractive young men bias, Bruno and "his girls", Craig and Emma Bunton, Len and his SPORTSMAN fetish.
The only aspect of it which really makes it creditable in dance terms is the standard of the professional dancers- and even there the BBC would prefer to recruit Hayley Holt over Nicole Cutler.
Where it has credibility is as an entertainment show. I certainly don't defend the decision to recruit Alesha, which strikes me as absolutely barmy, but it's really one more step along the path it has been following for some time now.
I only really watch it for certain dance aspects, mainly the pro dances and the chance to watch my favourite dancers at work. As long as that aspect of the show remains, I will still enjoy it.
I agree. As long as I can watch the pro dances and my favourite pros (which is most of them!) then I will continue to stick with the programme regardless of who the judges are and the dodgy celebs.
Katie_p
Fantastic post... A sitting down standing ovation for you...
My thoughts entirely (but with a few tweeks on the pros I like!)
Fantastic post... A sitting down standing ovation for you...
My thoughts entirely (but with a few tweeks on the pros I like!)
Originally Posted by SaraV1308:
“Katie_p
Fantastic post... A sitting down standing ovation for you...
My thoughts entirely (but with a few tweeks on the pros I like!)”
“Katie_p
Fantastic post... A sitting down standing ovation for you...
My thoughts entirely (but with a few tweeks on the pros I like!)”
Exactly!!!
JJ
I will see what its like but I can't say that if Alesha hands out 9 and 10's all teh time I will stay watching.
Nope
People are chastising something before they're even giving it a chance. Whatever the reasons Arlene is gone and Alesha is here. Will be interesting to see the changes
Considering the controversy I'm gonna say that the first show will probably get record viewing figures - despite everyone jumping on a bandwagon and saying their gonna boycott
People are chastising something before they're even giving it a chance. Whatever the reasons Arlene is gone and Alesha is here. Will be interesting to see the changes
Considering the controversy I'm gonna say that the first show will probably get record viewing figures - despite everyone jumping on a bandwagon and saying their gonna boycott
I agree with katiep 100%
No point in boycotting the show, the people on here are a minute fraction of the viewing public who will be watching regardless of the changes.
I watch it for the dancing, I dont vote as I honestly dont care who wins so long as they dont have an idiot being saved just for fun. That spoils it for me, I like to see the dancers improve and try not make a circus out of it.
No point in boycotting the show, the people on here are a minute fraction of the viewing public who will be watching regardless of the changes.
I watch it for the dancing, I dont vote as I honestly dont care who wins so long as they dont have an idiot being saved just for fun. That spoils it for me, I like to see the dancers improve and try not make a circus out of it.
A thread about boycotting the show was started the other day here and I'd say that not many people will boycott the show!
I will still be watching - unless Sharon Osborne is one of the celebs!
I will still be watching - unless Sharon Osborne is one of the celebs!
I speak about credibility in terms of me personally not giving a hoot about Alesha Dixons opinions on the dancing, she can offer no professional opinion.
All the judges had foibles and opinions on the dancers, but most had the foundation of a professionally qualified critique.
Also (I am an equalities campaigner) I am boycotting in protest that the BBC seem to think we don't mind seeing grey haired men all over the channel, but the women get shuffled off when they are deemed too old.
They've done it to other presenters and news readers. I guarantee they'd never have a woman Brucies age presenting the show.
This is about more than just the show, it about the blatant sexism/ageism at the BBC.
If only Arlena had been gay or Myleen Klass..
And F.Y.I.
I am gay and I love Alesha and Myleen, just to pre-empt any comments on my final line above.
All the judges had foibles and opinions on the dancers, but most had the foundation of a professionally qualified critique.
Also (I am an equalities campaigner) I am boycotting in protest that the BBC seem to think we don't mind seeing grey haired men all over the channel, but the women get shuffled off when they are deemed too old.
They've done it to other presenters and news readers. I guarantee they'd never have a woman Brucies age presenting the show.
This is about more than just the show, it about the blatant sexism/ageism at the BBC.
If only Arlena had been gay or Myleen Klass..
And F.Y.I.
I am gay and I love Alesha and Myleen, just to pre-empt any comments on my final line above.
Strictly's USP is that the dancing is very specific and technical and is judged so, my concern is that by messing with the show and missing the point it becomes just another generic Saturday (Sunday) night show.
Will we eventually see celebrity dancers (champions, runner-up) replacing the pros, for example, in the name of winning the ratings battle?.
The show has to have have an entertainment element to give a broad appeal, but not to the detriment of the overall vision of the show.
Bringing in Alesha could have been a stroke of genius as she clearly is popular, but not as a judge. As i've said before she could have been given some other presenting role somewhere. We'll have to wait and see how things go......
Will we eventually see celebrity dancers (champions, runner-up) replacing the pros, for example, in the name of winning the ratings battle?.
The show has to have have an entertainment element to give a broad appeal, but not to the detriment of the overall vision of the show.
Bringing in Alesha could have been a stroke of genius as she clearly is popular, but not as a judge. As i've said before she could have been given some other presenting role somewhere. We'll have to wait and see how things go......
I'll give her a chance. I don't know if I'll boycott it completely if I don't like Alesha as a judge - after all, I have a mute button - but if I can't get enthusiastic about any of the contestants or we have to go through another tedious saga like with John Sergeant and I don't like Alesha as a judge, then I doubt I'll watch the 2009 series to the end.
Although, between this and the results show being on Sundays, I can see myself not bothering to watch SCD live any more.
Although, between this and the results show being on Sundays, I can see myself not bothering to watch SCD live any more.
I've put up with Tess, trying to ignore her like somebody else's furniture. Alesha will be more challenging but I am committed to try.
Nope - I won't be boycotting the show as I don't watch it for the pesky judges - I watch it for the dancing and seeing how the celebs shape up.
I don't really care who is on the judging panel - none of them apart from Len are in any position to pontificate on or judge Ballroom dancing, and the favouritism they have shown to certain contestants and bias against others has diminished them even further in my eyes. Judges are supposed to be impartial and objective (as well as knowing their subject inside out!) none of the SCD judges can say that!
To me SCD is all about rookies (who just happen to celebs) discovering the joys of learning to dance with greater and lesser degrees of success. I wouldn't care if all four of the judges shimmied off into the sunset and left us to vote for our favourites.
I don't really care who is on the judging panel - none of them apart from Len are in any position to pontificate on or judge Ballroom dancing, and the favouritism they have shown to certain contestants and bias against others has diminished them even further in my eyes. Judges are supposed to be impartial and objective (as well as knowing their subject inside out!) none of the SCD judges can say that!
To me SCD is all about rookies (who just happen to celebs) discovering the joys of learning to dance with greater and lesser degrees of success. I wouldn't care if all four of the judges shimmied off into the sunset and left us to vote for our favourites.
I won't be boycotting the show for 3 reasons...
1. I don't see how I can criticize or enjoy what I haven't seen.
2. I don't like the idea of not even giving Alesha a chance to be heard.
3. I know that whatever else is going on, the pro's will still be there, and they'll still be the main reason I'm watching in the first place
1. I don't see how I can criticize or enjoy what I haven't seen.
2. I don't like the idea of not even giving Alesha a chance to be heard.
3. I know that whatever else is going on, the pro's will still be there, and they'll still be the main reason I'm watching in the first place
Originally Posted by SideshowStu:
“I won't be boycotting the show for 3 reasons...
1. I don't see how I can criticize or enjoy what I haven't seen.
2. I don't like the idea of not even giving Alesha a chance to be heard.
3. I know that whatever else is going on, the pro's will still be there, and they'll still be the main reason I'm watching in the first place”
“I won't be boycotting the show for 3 reasons...
1. I don't see how I can criticize or enjoy what I haven't seen.
2. I don't like the idea of not even giving Alesha a chance to be heard.
3. I know that whatever else is going on, the pro's will still be there, and they'll still be the main reason I'm watching in the first place
”
Exactly!
The pro dances and watching the pro's teach and interact withh their celeb will always attract me more than the judges who TBH I take with a pinch of salt!
Will never be inclined to boycott when I can still get a fix of the delectable Mr Cutler!
Originally Posted by CaroUK:
“Nope - I won't be boycotting the show as I don't watch it for the pesky judges - I watch it for the dancing and seeing how the celebs shape up.
I don't really care who is on the judging panel - none of them apart from Len are in any position to pontificate on or judge Ballroom dancing, and the favouritism they have shown to certain contestants and bias against others has diminished them even further in my eyes. Judges are supposed to be impartial and objective (as well as knowing their subject inside out!) none of the SCD judges can say that!
To me SCD is all about rookies (who just happen to celebs) discovering the joys of learning to dance with greater and lesser degrees of success. I wouldn't care if all four of the judges shimmied off into the sunset and left us to vote for our favourites.”
“Nope - I won't be boycotting the show as I don't watch it for the pesky judges - I watch it for the dancing and seeing how the celebs shape up.
I don't really care who is on the judging panel - none of them apart from Len are in any position to pontificate on or judge Ballroom dancing, and the favouritism they have shown to certain contestants and bias against others has diminished them even further in my eyes. Judges are supposed to be impartial and objective (as well as knowing their subject inside out!) none of the SCD judges can say that!
To me SCD is all about rookies (who just happen to celebs) discovering the joys of learning to dance with greater and lesser degrees of success. I wouldn't care if all four of the judges shimmied off into the sunset and left us to vote for our favourites.”
Originally Posted by SideshowStu:
“I won't be boycotting the show for 3 reasons...
1. I don't see how I can criticize or enjoy what I haven't seen.
2. I don't like the idea of not even giving Alesha a chance to be heard.
3. I know that whatever else is going on, the pro's will still be there, and they'll still be the main reason I'm watching in the first place”
“I won't be boycotting the show for 3 reasons...
1. I don't see how I can criticize or enjoy what I haven't seen.
2. I don't like the idea of not even giving Alesha a chance to be heard.
3. I know that whatever else is going on, the pro's will still be there, and they'll still be the main reason I'm watching in the first place
”
My heroes!
Originally Posted by simsy:
“I am furious about Arlene being shuffled over to the One Show. Alesia's in NO position to be judging dancing just because she was good at it! The show has lost any credibility it once had so i wont be watching. Anyone else going to boycott SCD?”
“I am furious about Arlene being shuffled over to the One Show. Alesia's in NO position to be judging dancing just because she was good at it! The show has lost any credibility it once had so i wont be watching. Anyone else going to boycott SCD?”
Nope.
Enjoy your boycott though. I does mean that you won't be able to see if your fears are correct, but as long as you are happy with your convictions...
Originally Posted by lynxmale:
“I've put up with Tess, trying to ignore her like somebody else's furniture. Alesha will be more challenging but I am committed to try.”
“I've put up with Tess, trying to ignore her like somebody else's furniture. Alesha will be more challenging but I am committed to try.”
LMAO!!
Couldn't have put it better myself.
I will be giving the show a chance, mainly because I enjoy watching the fab pro dancers.
However, I'm not getting that sense of pleasure/ anticipation that I usually feel that the new series is about to start, because of the controversy that has started before anyone has even set foot on the dancefloor.
However, I'm not getting that sense of pleasure/ anticipation that I usually feel that the new series is about to start, because of the controversy that has started before anyone has even set foot on the dancefloor.
I'll give it a chance, I reckon Alesha will be fine to be honest and everyone will forget the controversy. Unlike many I can see a place for someone like her on the judges panel, but it should have been alongside Arlene (or a replacement with the experience Arlene has). Even if Alesha is good I still won't think its right what has happened, not holding anything against her though.
Like many, for me the show is made by the pros.
Like many, for me the show is made by the pros.
