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Humax Foxsat HDR - Non Freesat Channels and other questions..
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Beginning to feel a bit of a luddite with this box and looking for some guidance on a few things - I know I will get good advice here but bear with me. 1. We use a communal satellite dish in a block of flats - signal is fine however we can use only 1 cable to connect feed in so only LNB1 is being used (correct cable from "socket" in wall to Humax machine). Would I be able to fit a splitter to the socket on the wall in order to connect both tuners or will that just interfere with the signal. 2. My partner would love to be able to watch channels from abroad - no where special but the ability to be able to view other channels is something he would like - actually Cyprus would be one country he would like to receive. We did a non freesat scan - only picked up the sky channels scrambled and FTA. Tuner 1 is showing and says this is fixed at 28E(?). Is there a way on this unit to receive other countries channels or because we only have 1 tuner active (as in the above point) we would not be able to receive them. 3. If we went for another make of HD Satellite PVR (for instance Technomate) but not a "freesat" unit do you think we will still have the same problems receiving overseas channels. Any help for this luddite would be appreciated ![]() Jewels |
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1) You would need 2 Cables into the box as some channels are on a different Freq and separate LNB is needed to receive these channels and work correctly.
2) the channel listings are here : - http://www.astra2d.com/frequencies.htm unless you moved the dish to pick up another satellite it can only receive the Astra channels, I'm sure the Cyprus channels are on a satellite at 7 degrees East, your dish is pointing at 28 east. 2a) there is a option on the SCAN to pick up only FTA channels you need to pick that and re-do the scan, it will only then pick up free channels. 3) to date, if your tuned onto the satellite 28 degrees' east there are only 2 EPG's FREESAT & SKY, so using a differnt box other than the Humax PVR or a SKY+ box it just wont work - The Humax picks up the Freesat EPG and the SKY+ box picks up the SKY Epg, if you decided to use the Technomate you will pick up channels but you won't be able to record stuff in the EPG. |
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Beginning to feel a bit of a luddite with this box and looking for some guidance on a few things - I know I will get good advice here but bear with me. 1. We use a communal satellite dish in a block of flats - signal is fine however we can use only 1 cable to connect feed in so only LNB1 is being used (correct cable from "socket" in wall to Humax machine). Would I be able to fit a splitter to the socket on the wall in order to connect both tuners or will that just interfere with the signal. 2. My partner would love to be able to watch channels from abroad - no where special but the ability to be able to view other channels is something he would like - actually Cyprus would be one country he would like to receive. We did a non freesat scan - only picked up the sky channels scrambled and FTA. Tuner 1 is showing and says this is fixed at 28E(?). Is there a way on this unit to receive other countries channels or because we only have 1 tuner active (as in the above point) we would not be able to receive them. 3. If we went for another make of HD Satellite PVR (for instance Technomate) but not a "freesat" unit do you think we will still have the same problems receiving overseas channels. Any help for this luddite would be appreciated ![]() Jewels You can't split a sattelite signal like a terrestrial signal but you can use your hdr on one cable and still be able to record some second channels (and even watch a very limited 3rd channel choice). Take a look at the back of the hdr it has 3 F type coax connections. The middle one is designed to allow the 2nd tuner to be fed using only 1 cable. You need a short length of coax with a f plug on each end and simply connect tuner 1 out to tuner 2 in. What you can record together varies with your postcode but take a look at the following list (which is correct for a West Midlands postcode) Any two channels in the same block can be recorded. Any channel with the same number after it as either recording can also be viewed while recording two Code:
Low Band Horizontal 104 Channel 4................................ 10714 125 More4 +1............................ 10714 300 Film4............................... 10714 301 Film4 +1............................ 10714 974 Channel 4........................... 10714 968 BBC 2 England....................... 10733 750 RTE Radio 1 ........................ 10743 751 RTE Radio 2fm ...................... 10743 752 RTE Radio Lyric FM ................. 10743 753 RTE Raidio na Gaeltacta ............ 10743 102 BBC Two............................. 10773 105 Channel 5........................... 10773 106 BBC Three........................... 10773 107 BBC Four............................ 10773 600 CBBC................................ 10773 601 CBeebies............................ 10773 950 BBC 1 London........................ 10773 957 BBC 1 NI............................ 10773 705 BBC Radio 5 Live ................... 10802 706 BBC Radio 5 Live Sports Extra ...... 10802 960 BBC 1 Scotland...................... 10802 964 BBC 1 Wales......................... 10802 969 BBC 2 NI............................ 10802 970 BBC 2 SCOTLAND...................... 10802 971 BBC 2 W............................. 10802 118 ITV4 + 1............................ 10832 114 ITV2 +1............................. 10891 139 Zone Horror + 1..................... 11222 514 Clubland............................ 11222 786 BFBS Radio ......................... 11222 806 TV Shop............................. 11222 138 Zone Horror......................... 11261 811 Thane Direct........................ 11261 809 JML................................. 11307 400 Wedding TV.......................... 11344 103 ITV HD (red button)................. 11426 986 Teletext............................ 11427 807 Shop on TV.......................... 11546 861 Gala TV............................. 11546 206 Russia Today........................ 11623 690 Inspiration TV...................... 11661 851 Netplay TV.......................... 11661 Low Band Vertical 121 Channel 4 + 1....................... 10729 122 E4.................................. 10729 123 E4 +1............................... 10729 124 More4............................... 10729 975 Channel 4 + 1....................... 10729 103 ITV1................................ 10758 113 ITV2................................ 10758 117 ITV4................................ 10758 450 Men and Motors...................... 10758 602 CITV................................ 10758 977 ITV 1 London (audio described)...... 10758 101 BBC One............................. 10788 952 BBC 1 E Mids........................ 10788 953 BBC 1 East (E)...................... 10788 955 BBC 1 N West........................ 10788 963 BBC 1 W Mids........................ 10788 966 BBC 1 Yorks......................... 10788 967 BBC 1 Eyrks*L....................... 10788 956 BBC 1 NE & C........................ 10817 958 BBC 1 Oxford........................ 10817 959 BBC 1 S East........................ 10817 961 BBC 1 South......................... 10817 962 BBC 1 S West........................ 10817 965 BBC 1 West.......................... 10817 108 BBC HD.............................. 10847 951 BBC 1 CI............................ 10847 954 BBC 1 East (W)...................... 10847 115 ITV3................................ 10906 116 ITV3 +1............................. 10906 304 Movies4Men.......................... 11223 306 Movies4Men2......................... 11223 803 Pitch TV............................ 11223 804 Pitch World......................... 11223 403 Rural TV............................ 11259 451 Audi Channel........................ 11259 852 Smart Live Casino................... 11259 140 Black Entertainment Television (BET) 11307 662 9X.................................. 11307 135 Zone Romantica...................... 11343 308 Simply Movies....................... 11343 724 Absolute Radio ..................... 11390 725 Absolute Classic Rock .............. 11390 726 Absolute Radio Extreme ............. 11390 727 NME Radio .......................... 11390 728 WRN ................................ 11390 729 JazzFM.............................. 11390 777 Insight Radio ...................... 11390 790 TWR Radio........................... 11390 208 Bloomberg TV........................ 11426 519 9XM................................. 11426 205 France 24........................... 11488 302 True Movies......................... 11642 303 True Movies 2....................... 11642 500 Chart Show TV....................... 11642 501 The Vault........................... 11642 502 Scuzz............................... 11642 603 POP................................. 11642 604 POPGirl............................. 11642 605 Tiny POP............................ 11642 606 Kix!................................ 11642 203 Al Jazeera English.................. 11680 High Band Horizontal 110 BBC ALBA............................ 11953 200 BBC News............................ 11953 201 BBC Parliament...................... 11953 700 BBC Radio 1 ........................ 11953 701 BBC Radio 1 Xtra ................... 11953 702 BBC Radio 2 ........................ 11953 703 BBC Radio 3 ........................ 11953 704 BBC Radio 4 FM...................... 11953 707 BBC 6Music.......................... 11953 708 BBC Radio 7......................... 11953 709 BBC Asian Network................... 11953 710 BBC Radio 4 LW...................... 11953 711 BBC World Service .................. 11953 712 BBC Radio Scotland ................. 11953 713 BBC Radio nan Gaidheal (Gaelic) .... 11953 714 BBC Radio Wales .................... 11953 715 BBC Radio Cymru (Welsh) ............ 11953 716 BBC Radio Ulster ................... 11953 816 Ideal World......................... 12031 800 QVC................................. 12032 801 price-drop tv....................... 12032 802 bid tv.............................. 12032 120 S4C................................. 12421 202 S4C2................................ 12421 504 B4U Music........................... 12421 402 Information TV...................... 12523 691 DAYSTAR TV.......................... 12523 High Band Vertical 136 Zone Reality........................ 12523 719 Capital 95.8 ....................... 12523 720 Choice FM .......................... 12523 721 Classic FM ......................... 12523 722 Gold ............................... 12523 723 XFM London ......................... 12523 730 Planet Rock ........................ 12523 805 Gems TV1............................ 12523 810 JML COOKSHOP........................ 12523 137 Zone Thriller....................... 12560 204 Euronews............................ 12560 401 Wedding TV + 1...................... 12560 813 Best Direct......................... 12560 509 Zee Music........................... 12606 650 Teachers TV......................... 12643 141 BET + 1............................. 12690 http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...8&postcount=19 Last edited by grahamlthompson : 22-07-2009 at 09:38. 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You need a separate cable from the dish/LNB to feed the second tuner, you can't split the existing cable. (Your communal dish might be feeding a multiswitch which effectively distributes the one signal to multiple places, so there might be a spare output on that if you want a second feed into your flat. You'd have to speak to the landlord).
Your dish/LNB is pointed at 28E which is a location speficially for the UK so you cannot pick up foreign channels. You would need another dish pointed in another direction or a multi-LNB bracket on the dish to hold one or more extra LNBs that are pointed at different places, or a motorised dish so that it can be repositioned. If you want to be able to receive channels from different places on the same cable, you need to combine them with a DiSEQC switch. I have twin-output LNBs pointed at 28E, 19E and 13E, which go through two DiSEQC switches. So I have both tuners on my Humax Freesat HDR fed with channels from all 3 satellite positions and I can access those channels in non-Freesat mode. The advantage of not using a Freesat-branded box for the foreign satellites is that you don't have to switch back and forth between Freesat and non-Freesat modes, and facilities for setting up Favourites and re-ordering channels would be better. But you have to sort out your dish and LNBs anyway if you want foreign channels, regardless of what type of receiver you have. |
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But you have to sort out your dish and LNBs anyway if you want foreign channels, regardless of what type of receiver you have.
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Take a look at the back of the hdr it has 3 F type coax connections. The middle one is designed to allow the 2nd tuner to be fed using only 1 cable. You need a short length of coax with a f plug on each end and simply connect tuner 1 out to tuner 2 in.
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Hi,just wondered if I could use that to feed my other Humax hd freesat reciever?
Thanks. If it's going to be in the same room this will interest you http://www.hummy.org.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=6014 Last edited by grahamlthompson : 22-07-2009 at 10:35. Reason: extra info |
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Hi,just wondered if I could use that to feed my other Humax hd freesat reciever?
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Can someone explain why all the regional BBC1s and BBC2s are present, but not the ITVs
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Can someone explain why all the regional BBC1s and BBC2s are present, but not the ITVs
If you mean why are they not on the freesat EPG, it's due to targetted regional advertising and its revenue. You do get in addition, ITV London on 977, ostensibly for Audio Description, but it also allows Scottish & Irish postcode users to get ITV HD. Rgds. Les. |
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Thanks for all the replies. I thought this would be the case but needed the expert advice.
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