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Digihome PVR80 post-switchover
tonfoster
22-07-2009
Many people will have woken up to no TV reception from Caldbeck this morning, if they're using a Digihome PVR. This is just to confirm that the v 5.7 software update form here solves the problem completely. Admittedly, you need a middle-aged PC with a serial connection and cable (all explained in a 'Read-me' that comes with the update), but it saves a perfectly good machine from the scrap-heap ...
futaura
22-07-2009
v5.7 was broadcast via OAD last week for various T810 builds including the Digihome PVR80, probably in anticipation for this switchover, so if automatic updates were switched on, it should have picked the update up, um, automatically. That said, I know many people switch that feature off (including me) because they prefer the box not to switch on a 3am every day .
tonfoster
22-07-2009
Having read the thread about the Selkirk transmitter changeover problems I made sure mine was set to download anything that was made available, but it didn't. I even checked manually yesterday, as I lost BBC after the June switchover and feared the worst ...
StoppingService
30-07-2009
Hi

Originally Posted by futaura:
“v5.7 was broadcast via OAD last week ... so if automatic updates were switched on, it should have picked the update up.”

Originally Posted by tonfoster:
“Having read the thread about the Selkirk transmitter changeover problems I made sure mine was set to download anything that was made available, but it didn't.”

Originally Posted by StoppingService:
“A reason why their recorder hasn't already downloaded and installed v5.7 could be that their pre-switchover signal quality isn't good enough - from experience, a better quality is necessary for a successful download than for TV viewing.”

I hypothesise that firmware streams have a smaller margin of error-correction than TV/radio streams.

Regards
adman46
24-08-2009
this oad is being broadcast now (24/08/09), and for other varients latter in the week. I have just up graded my dtr80 to ver 5.7
daves001
26-08-2009
Quote:
“Admittedly, you need a middle-aged PC with a serial connection...”


You can get USB-to-Serial Port adapters (£10 - £12) for use on PCs with no serial port. I've used them fine on some other serial port equipment, but never tried with a PVR/DTR. Anybody used them?
creddish
26-08-2009
Originally Posted by daves001:
“You can get USB-to-Serial Port adapters (£10 - £12) for use on PCs with no serial port. I've used them fine on some other serial port equipment, but never tried with a PVR/DTR. Anybody used them?”

Yes I have used two versions. One crashed my PC after completing a software update on a Technotrend PVR. I bought another one and that worked without problems. I've not used either on a Vestel PVR yet.

Colin
gfx-tech
18-10-2009
Hi,

My Grandfather has a Digihome PRV80 which I re-scanned for him last weekend. All seemed fine and all channels were viewable and listed in EPG.

A few days later he telephoned me to say he could not get BBC1 & 2 anymore.

I visited him again today and sure enough his box had 'lost' BBC1 & 2. They weren't even on the EPG.

I re-scanned the box again and once again the BBC channels were listed in the EPG and were viewable and of good quality. I then put the box into standby and then unplugged from the mains. Waited a few moments and then powered the box back up.

BBC channels had disappeared again!!!

Can anyone throw any light on this problem???

Current firmware of unit is: V5.7(uk) dated 18-11-2008.

Cheers, Simon.
muxed ip
19-10-2009
Have you seen this thread?-
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s....php?t=1143839
leemc
19-10-2009
Originally Posted by gfx-tech:
“Hi,

My Grandfather has a Digihome PRV80 which I re-scanned for him last weekend. All seemed fine and all channels were viewable and listed in EPG.

A few days later he telephoned me to say he could not get BBC1 & 2 anymore.

I visited him again today and sure enough his box had 'lost' BBC1 & 2. They weren't even on the EPG.

I re-scanned the box again and once again the BBC channels were listed in the EPG and were viewable and of good quality. I then put the box into standby and then unplugged from the mains. Waited a few moments and then powered the box back up.

BBC channels had disappeared again!!!

Can anyone throw any light on this problem???

Current firmware of unit is: V5.7(uk) dated 18-11-2008.

Cheers, Simon.”

Hi - I was having the same problem with channel 5 disappearing from the EPG (although strangely enough it would still record from channel 5, even though it was not listed! Doing a retune seemed to fic the problem, but a day or so later, the problem would come back.

It seems (after trying it out on my digihome PVR80) that going into the install menu and selecting 'First Time Install' fixes this issue, as my channel 5 is stil there at the moment.

Doing a first time install does NOT affect what is on your harddrive although you will need to reset your timers.

Hope this helps.

Lee
gfx-tech
25-10-2009
Originally Posted by leemc:
“It seems (after trying it out on my digihome PVR80) that going into the install menu and selecting 'First Time Install' fixes this issue, as my channel 5 is stil there at the moment.”

Thanks for the info, but I've already done the 'first time install' several times.

It seems the only way to stop the channels dissappearing from the EPG is to leave the unit switched on. Which goes against the grain for someone from my Grandfather's generation

Any other ideas anyone?

Cheers, Simon.
parthena
26-10-2009
It may help to remove the aerial and scan for channels, which will definitely remove all existing channels, then put the aerial back in and do a first-time install.

Someone somewhere in amongst the rescan problems has said that the memory in older PVRs may have become "inflexible" and no longer be able to replace old tunings with new. Those are my words describing the vague memory I have of what was said

Then there's been something about receiving signals from more than one transmitter.

parthena
creddish
26-10-2009
Originally Posted by gfx-tech:
“Thanks for the info, but I've already done the 'first time install' several times.

It seems the only way to stop the channels dissappearing from the EPG is to leave the unit switched on. Which goes against the grain for someone from my Grandfather's generation

Any other ideas anyone?

Cheers, Simon.”

There is no energy saving advantage in setting the Vestel PVRs to standby (with the exception of some of the models with the Low Power standby feature) as they consume virtually the same power (approx 11W) whether in standby or fully operational.

Coin
bwfcol
08-11-2009
Hi

I have a PVR80. I've always had automatic scanning on and am still on software 5.3! I've tried scanning for an update manually to. I've tried a factory reset and all the usual stuff but can't get BBC 1/2.

Any advice? Should I just bin it?
futaura
08-11-2009
Originally Posted by bwfcol:
“I have a PVR80. I've always had automatic scanning on and am still on software 5.3! I've tried scanning for an update manually to. I've tried a factory reset and all the usual stuff but can't get BBC 1/2.

Any advice? Should I just bin it?”

I wouldn't. It can be upgraded manually to v5.7 via a PC, serial cable and the RS232 port on the back of the PVR80. Or you could wait and keep an eye on http://www.dtg.org.uk/industry/download_schedule.php to see if the update is rebroadcast and scan for an update then (no point scanning for one until it is being broadcast). Do you put your PVR80 in standby overnight? (automatic update scans happen at 3am)
b1o2b3
17-04-2011
Originally Posted by gfx-tech:
“Hi,

My Grandfather has a Digihome PRV80 which I re-scanned for him last weekend. All seemed fine and all channels were viewable and listed in EPG.

A few days later he telephoned me to say he could not get BBC1 & 2 anymore.

I visited him again today and sure enough his box had 'lost' BBC1 & 2. They weren't even on the EPG.

I re-scanned the box again and once again the BBC channels were listed in the EPG and were viewable and of good quality. I then put the box into standby and then unplugged from the mains. Waited a few moments and then powered the box back up.

BBC channels had disappeared again!!!

Can anyone throw any light on this problem???

Current firmware of unit is: V5.7(uk) dated 18-11-2008.

Cheers, Simon.”

Simon this is an old post so I expect you have this sorted now but this may be of use to others. We have a PVR80 (v5.7 updated) with a similar problem. After a scan all channels were found and saved but after putting into standby then disconnecting at the mains BBC1+2 were missing. It had me beat for I time then I thought let's try a scan and delete everything except BBC1+2. After turning off at the mains and powering up again BBC1 and 2 remained saved. I then scanned again but this time I deleted all the unwanted channels (QVC etc), problem sorted. I am guessing here but I think that there are so many channels to store now that the PVR80 can't save them all in the memory that is used when disconnected from the mains. It saves as many as possible dropping the lowest channels first.
StoppingService
17-04-2011
Hi

Originally Posted by b1o2b3:
“I am guessing here but I think that there are so many channels to store now that the PVR80 can't save them all in the memory that is used when disconnected from the mains.”

Yes.

Regards
futaura
18-04-2011
Yes, the software is limited to 100 channels maximum. The box has no trouble with more than 100 channel in the channel list while scanning and the box is left powered up or in standby, but when it is switched off at the mains or reboots (i.e. 3am every day to check for updates, if not disabled) it will reread the copy of the channel list in NVRAM and this will lose channels if there were over 100 (and they'll be channels from the first mux scanned - i.e. the mux with the lowest UHF frequency if autoscanning).
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