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Grandefratello 4 and the Pin for the webfeeds
larry9
21-01-2004
Can anybody help with a translation regarding the Pin number required to use the web feeds for Grandefratello 4 which starts Thursday 22nd at 2100 CET on Canale 5.

Link to the info page is

http://grandefratello.jumpy.it/_popup_infopin.html

Homepage is

http://www.grandefratello.com

Cheers Larry
piranhaville
21-01-2004
Click on this link.

Check the option to translate a webpage and enter the url. It's a bit 'pigeon English', but you should get the gist.

larry9
21-01-2004
Thank you.
I tried the option from the Google bar which usually does a good job but it failed completely.

Larry
maggie
23-01-2004
Here's the translation:

The PIN number gives you access to the live streaming on the internet (daily between 10-18) and to the video of this year’s edition of Grande Fratello. The PIN number will be activated after the first time it’s typed into the site; from that moment you can watch all the films, streaming, and archived videos by clicking on the links and without any further procedures. The PIN number can be used on a maximum of two computers of your choice (for example home and office) and it is purchased by phone (costs 3 € -- only if you’re over 18 -- valid for 7 consecutive days from the first time you use it) or by credit card (costs 30 € and is valid from the first time it’s used until 31/5).

ATTENTION: The PIN numbers are available when the telephone numbers and the credit card authorization pages are online.

FOR THE PHONE NUMBERS AND THE METHODS OF PAYMENT YOU NEED TO CLICK ON THE ICON “ISTRUZIONI” ON THE SITE’S HOME PAGE.

***********
By the way, the new interactive service on the GF channel is fantastic. Judging by the first night, the streaming is actually live (not "live" meaning delayed by 20 minutes as it is on E4), and everything the housemates say goes out live. There is NO sound dipping, no censorship.

The interactive layout is also great. The main screen is a good 3/4 of the TV screen, not the postage-stamp screen we get on E4. Underneath the main screen are the 5 thumbnail alternatives you can choose from.

There's a futuristic luxury suite with massive circular bed for the rewards competitions, but there's also a foul punishment "suite" with no proper toilet (just a sort of hole in the floor), old car seats for furniture, and a bale of hay for the bed. Indisciplined or rowdy housemates will be confined in the room as punishment, but also those who don't put 100% effort into the weekly tasks risk having to spend time there as well.

Among the housemates are a father and daughter team. The 19 year-old daughter didn't know her father was going to be joining her, and she was not a happy camper when he walked through the door.
larry9
23-01-2004
Thanks for the extra information.
The interactive streaming they usually use on satellite is as you discribed. A 3/4 screen with thumb nails along the bottom.
Think last time there was a seperate screen for SMS etc.
Shame $ky Italy changed the encryption system !

Hopefully tonight the webserver will let be register the pin for the feeds. I was getting error messages when I tried this morning though I did get the screen up by acciedent before I'd registered last night.

As I type the evening program is running on Canale5 .

Larry
maggie
23-01-2004
This is the first time I've been able to watch the live streaming. It used to be on Stream, but I had Tele+ and didn't want an additional subscription. Now I have Sky Italy, and the more I watch, the more I wish E4 were like this. It seems like heaven not to have sound dips, and the main screen on the interactive service is huge compared with what we get on E4.

Oh, and there's a "shower cam" too. They showed everyone showering this morning...all prudishly attired in bikinis and swim trunks!
larry9
23-01-2004
Quote:
“Originally posted by maggie
This is the first time I've been able to watch the live streaming. It used to be on Stream, but I had Tele+ and didn't want an additional subscription. Now I have Sky Italy, and the more I watch, the more I wish E4 were like this. It seems like heaven not to have sound dips, and the main screen on the interactive service is huge compared with what we get on E4.

Oh, and there's a "shower cam" too. They showed everyone showering this morning...all prudishly attired in bikinis and swim trunks!
”

I have to ask the question ,are you a UK resident ?
As know a UK based Italian who'd love to subscribe if it's available. Though I think he does have relatives out there as an alternative method.

Regarding E4 ,the last time I saw BB on there was BB2 with OnDigital so I haven't seen the mess from last year though I did read loads of complaints about the SMS etc taking up too much space.
I did watch quite alot of the Portuguese series and that had Games and SMS in the lower part of the picture.

Larry
gmguru
23-01-2004
I had a quick look at the website, has someone been evicted already or did they walk?
larry9
23-01-2004
Quote:
“Originally posted by gmguru
I had a quick look at the website, has someone been evicted already or did they walk? ”

They repeated the routine from last year where the contestants had to nominate someone to leave ,which they did.
I girl called Carmen was evicted.
They then introduced Renato (28) and Ascanio (30) who then entered the house. But they are both up for the public vote to decide who will stay.

Having fun trying to find the link for the cameras. I have a PIN and can watch the video archive but can't find the live links.
I don't know if they are being blocked by the AD Blocker in Zone Alarm or the Pop-Up block in the Google Bar or just that I can't find them.

Larry
maggie
23-01-2004
Quote:
“Originally posted by larry9
I have to ask the question ,are you a UK resident ? ”

I live in Italy, but I spend a lot of time in London with my parents -- so I have the best of both worlds. Right now I'm in Italy, but I hope to be in the UK in time for BB 5.
larry9
24-01-2004
Quote:
“Originally posted by maggie
I live in Italy, but I spend a lot of time in London with my parents -- so I have the best of both worlds. Right now I'm in Italy, but I hope to be in the UK in time for BB 5. ”

Thanks.
I've just reread your translation and I guess the links for the feeds on the homepage only appear during the daytime. This is a great shame as it only leaves one day a week that I can watch them .I would imagine that $ky hope the interactive service will get more use this way ,though it will limit their income from the feeds as I'd imagine less subscribers. As of 0130am GMT this morning (23rd) there were only 110 subscribers going by the details sent with my PIN. Channel 4 (UK) would class this figure as a disaster.
I'd also expect the international viewing to be very low compared to GF3 .

Cheers Larry
maggie
24-01-2004
Quote:
“Originally posted by larry9
Thanks.
I've just reread your translation and I guess the links for the feeds on the homepage only appear during the daytime. This is a great shame as it only leaves one day a week that I can watch them .I would imagine that $ky hope the interactive service will get more use this way ,though it will limit their income from the feeds as I'd imagine less subscribers.
”

I think Sky Italy is hoping to draw new subscribers with this ploy. The service is only a few months old, and there hasn't been the huge rush of subscribers they were expecting, so anything to entice new viewers into the fold.
larry9
24-01-2004
The biggest rise in subscribers was last year when they changed the encryption systems on Stream and D+ (or was it telpui ?). Both systems had been hacked for a number of years with a very large number of people using this method to receive them. I can't remember the quoted increase in subscriptions but it was in to hundreds of thousands.

I'm currently watching the evening program with the highlights.
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