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This Alisha repacing Arlene malarcky...
dpmd_London
24-07-2009
...is it just me who thinks that Alisha Dixon should do the decent thing and refuse to take the job?

Don't get me wrong I think she is absolutley gorgeous and her legs are second to none but she is supposed to be a "singer" and a "pop star". Is her taking on this role admitting that she has failed at that? And that she needs to take someone else's job off them to be someone?

These comments might seem a bit drastic but discuss...
SaraV1308
25-07-2009
Oh goody another Arl-esha-gate thread...

Actually her best assets (and Im talking her legs here) will never be on show if she is a judge....
pickledgherkin
25-07-2009
Originally Posted by dpmd_London:
“...is it just me who thinks that Alisha Dixon should do the decent thing and refuse to take the job?

Don't get me wrong I think she is absolutley gorgeous and her legs are second to none but she is supposed to be a "singer" and a "pop star". Is her taking on this role admitting that she has failed at that? And that she needs to take someone else's job off them to be someone?

These comments might seem a bit drastic but discuss...”

I agree that Alesha should not have taken the job. I don't see her as having failed in her pop career, far from it, and I think she has great potential maybe as a presenter but the job of judging on SCD is not within her remit. I also feel disappointed with her for accepting the BBC's offer. I am sure a large salary comes with it but she earns a lot anyway, is very popular, she doesn't need it. It might not do her popularity much good in the long run. Sorry Alesha, this is from a fan of yours.
Saturn
25-07-2009
Alesha must have realised when she took the job that she was putting Arlene out of one. She must be a nasty piece of work under the surface.
Force Ten
25-07-2009
I think that's a slightly unfair comment. We don't know how the job was pitched to Alesha. At one time there was talk of Arlene not being a judge this series anyway as she was supposed to be choreographing a show in New York (if I remember that correctly). Who knows how the BBC explained it to Alesha and I don't suppose we ever will unless Alesha goes into print to explain it?

I'm prepared to give it the benefit of the doubt until we see exactly what she is supposed to be judging - for all we know, she could be judging what the contestants are wearing! The BBC hasn't exactly been forthcoming about what her remit is.
katie_p
25-07-2009
Originally Posted by Force Ten:
“I think that's a slightly unfair comment. We don't know how the job was pitched to Alesha. At one time there was talk of Arlene not being a judge this series anyway as she was supposed to be choreographing a show in New York (if I remember that correctly). Who knows how the BBC explained it to Alesha and I don't suppose we ever will unless Alesha goes into print to explain it?

I'm prepared to give it the benefit of the doubt until we see exactly what she is supposed to be judging - for all we know, she could be judging what the contestants are wearing! The BBC hasn't exactly been forthcoming about what her remit is.”

I agree with your first comment... but whatever Alesha is judging, it definitely represents a dumbing down of the programme, because whatever her remit is she won't be able to judge dance technique.
Force Ten
25-07-2009
Absolutely katie, I couldn't agree more. People keep mentioning the Cheryl Cole factor, but at least she is a singer who came out of a reality show and is judging singing on a reality show. Alesha, bless her, is not a professional dancer or choreographer so I'm not quite sure exactly what she is going to be judging. There are already two judges there who comment on performance - Bruno in particular. We really need a judge who can comment on technique which is what Arlene was so good at.

But as I said, I'm prepared to wait and see how it all pans out in the first programme before passing judgement.
claire2281
25-07-2009
The only thing that amazes me is how people STILL manage to spell Alesha's name incorrectly.
Dancing Girl
25-07-2009
There are ONLY 1,300 official complaints made to the BBC about Alesha replacing Arlene on Strictly Come Dancing!!!!!!. I am amazed that so few people have written in about this as I thought it had caused a storm. I live in Germany so I cannot write in and complain but I wish more people would write in and give the BBC a right old fright and wake them up to what they are doing. There are loads of viewers over 50 enjoying the show and this has upset a lot of older women. EVERYTHING on TV cannot be aimed at young audiences as most younger people are out and about on a Saturday night!! They have a loyal older audience who prefer SCD to X Factor but they are beginning to get furious about the treatment of older TV newscasters, TV presenters being fired due to their age yet we have Brucie with Tess!! Come on, he looks like her grandfather but this is apparently acceptable to the BBC.
BuddyBontheNet
25-07-2009
Originally Posted by dpmd_London:
“...is it just me who thinks that Alisha Dixon should do the decent thing and refuse to take the job?

Don't get me wrong I think she is absolutley gorgeous and her legs are second to none but she is supposed to be a "singer" and a "pop star". Is her taking on this role admitting that she has failed at that? And that she needs to take someone else's job off them to be someone?

These comments might seem a bit drastic but discuss...”

How many more threads do we need on the same subject? OP what is the difference between this thread you have started and this one?

And it is ALESHA not Alisha - at least try and get her name right if you are going to start a thread (especially a negative thread) about her.
carrona
25-07-2009
If you wish to make a complaint regarding the sacking of Arlene Phillips from Strictly Come Dancing, go here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/forms/
carrona
25-07-2009
If you wish to make a complaint regarding the sacking of Arlene Phillips from Strictly Come Dancing, go here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/forms/
yelsel
25-07-2009
Originally Posted by Saturn:
“Alesha must have realised when she took the job that she was putting Arlene out of one. She must be a nasty piece of work under the surface.”

I think the only nasty piece of work here is YOU, Arlene was going WHOEVER took her place, so are you saying that if Camiila, Karen or any other names mentioned had taken the job, they would also have been a nasty piece of work..... no

You, like lots of others on here fail to realise that in real life people get promoted or take jobs replacing other people all the time, does that make them all " nasty pieces of work" ?
kp2ni
25-07-2009
1. Her name is Alesha not Alisha

2. Do we really need another topic on this?

As for "Is her taking on this role admitting that she has failed at that?"

How?

She doing a tour while Strictly is on and Strictly is on one night a week for roughly 4 months (for the judges/ presenters not including Claudia ) she has plenty of time to keep doing her singing work in the other 8 months!

Arlene was a performance and choreography judge not a technique yes she could comment on basic dance technique but not on ballroom dancing technique. The panel was always uneven balanced in the favour of choreograph as i said in another topic (As there are SO many now) another ballroom dancer should have been added like Camilla, Karen or even someone like Paul Killick.

Arlene (as Force Ten said earlier in this topic) did say on i think it was ITT last year that she wasn't sure she would be back as she has other opportunities in America so who knows what actually happened there were rumours about pay as well

As for Alesha taking the job who on this forum wouldn't have done the same? Alesha always loved the show and was a fan so why wouldn't she take the job when offered?

I willing to give Alesha a chance even though I never wanted her as a judge and I wish her the best of luck.

As for complaining ~ Sorry but I'm not going to complain just because someone tells me to and Arlene was my least fav judge. If people want to complain they will and there are plenty of other topics with links in them to the complaints page of the BBC so could you please stop posting the link over and over again thanks. And if it was actually about Arlene's age ~ which I think it has nothing to do with - I may have thought about it but I think it had more to do with last year's series.
CityofRoses
25-07-2009
Originally Posted by Saturn:
“Alesha must have realised when she took the job that she was putting Arlene out of one. She must be a nasty piece of work under the surface.”

That's ridiculous, people get replaced in jobs everyday, sometimes it fair sometimes it's not, no one is a nasty piece for taking a job, if you want to blame someone blame the people in charge of the show.
Quizmike
26-07-2009
(everyone is entitled to their opinions and here is mine so let it be known..)

Had a drink tonight and had enough of this going on and on and on again. No humour here folks. Anyway to answer your posts...

Originally Posted by dpmd_London:
“...is it just me who thinks that Alisha Dixon should do the decent thing and refuse to take the job?

Don't get me wrong I think she is absolutley gorgeous and her legs are second to none but she is supposed to be a "singer" and a "pop star". Is her taking on this role admitting that she has failed at that? And that she needs to take someone else's job off them to be someone?

These comments might seem a bit drastic but discuss...”

Been discussed to death already. Why did you feel the need for another thread?

Originally Posted by Saturn:
“Alesha must have realised when she took the job that she was putting Arlene out of one. She must be a nasty piece of work under the surface.”

You know Alesha do you? Where did you meet her?

Do you know Arlene's reasons for not returning?

I've obvious never met you. Does this mean that I can call you a nasty piece of work? Lets have a beer and see what comes from that eh?

Originally Posted by Dancing Girl:
“There are ONLY 1,300 official complaints made to the BBC about Alesha replacing Arlene on Strictly Come Dancing!!!!!!. I am amazed that so few people have written in about this as I thought it had caused a storm. I live in Germany so I cannot write in and complain but I wish more people would write in and give the BBC a right old fright and wake them up to what they are doing. There are loads of viewers over 50 enjoying the show and this has upset a lot of older women. EVERYTHING on TV cannot be aimed at young audiences as most younger people are out and about on a Saturday night!! They have a loyal older audience who prefer SCD to X Factor but they are beginning to get furious about the treatment of older TV newscasters, TV presenters being fired due to their age yet we have Brucie with Tess!! Come on, he looks like her grandfather but this is apparently acceptable to the BBC.”

Maybe most people are waiting to see how she does before we sit in judgement? Sorry if that sounds too sensible. There are some people who are not giving an outpouring of outrage without knowing the facts. In fact it's nearly everyone. Problem is that we don't bother to say anything cause there's nothing to say. But don't let the fact get in the way of a good story.

Also just because you live in Germany, why can you not complain? SCD, BBC TV Centre, Wood Lane, London W12 8QT will do you. Bit obviously you feel so passionate about it that you have been too outraged to google a place to complain to. I understand.

Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“How many more threads do we need on the same subject? OP what is the difference between this thread you have started and this one?
”

Agreed BB

Originally Posted by carrona:
“If you wish to make a complaint regarding the sacking of Arlene Phillips from Strictly Come Dancing, go here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/forms/”

Originally Posted by carrona:
“If you wish to make a complaint regarding the sacking of Arlene Phillips from Strictly Come Dancing, go here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/complaints/forms/”

We heard you the first time. Maybe some people don't want to complain? Please don't push your views down our throats.

Anyway, if you hate me for my views let me know and I will happily retire from the forum. My final point is that so much has been said by so few people who think they talk for the masses. They are wrong. And I'm sick to death of it now.

People last season wanted change. And now it's come they don't like. You can't please some of the people any of the time (my apologies to PT Barnum).

Cheerio everyone
PinkGlitter
26-07-2009
Any older woman who refuses to watch because of Alesha's age is a truly ridiculous human being imo.
memmh
26-07-2009
Why on earth should Alesha withdraw? I don't agree with this decision but I don't blame her for it; the decision was made by the BBC, not Alesha. I very much doubt that Alesha went to Jay Hunt and said, "I want Arlene's job, give it to me."

Admittedly, the Beeb would perhaps have been better off finding a different role for Alesha within SCD - Tess' job perhaps! - but I've got nothing against Alesha and, out of fairness to her, I'm willing to give her a chance. Who knows? We may all be pleasantly surprised.
soneil
26-07-2009
Arlene's dismissal has nothing to do with Alesha Dixon. If Alesha had turned down the job, it would've just gone to someone else. Probably DeKnees Van Outen.
HeidiB
27-07-2009
The age of women doesn't matter. Their ability to do the job does - and Alesha doesn't have the expertise to be a convincing judge. This is the reason we should boycott the show. Not because it is Alesha per se but because of her lack of qualifications for this job.
yelsel
27-07-2009
Originally Posted by HeidiB:
“The age of women doesn't matter. Their ability to do the job does - and Alesha doesn't have the expertise to be a convincing judge. This is the reason we should boycott the show. Not because it is Alesha per se but because of her lack of qualifications for this job.”

Get real will you, kindly list me Bruno and Craigs qualifications to judge ball room and latin or for that matter Arlenes, and dont giver me all the crap about west end shows and elton John videos, completely different discipline, didnt notice much ballroom in any of these shows, in fact the are all just a bunch of old hoofers who got lucky. sad thing is people like you actually think they ( the judges ) know what they are talking about.
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