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Was Arlene ever Bitchy
I was just wondering if Arlene Philips was ever bitchy or cruel to the contestants (I "flick" into SCD) and if so was that why she was sacked ie was it because she was too bitchy or was she quite placid, and could it be that she did not have enough "chaputz" to carry with the programme, I will be interested in what posters have to say about this?
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All of the judges have been bitchy at times. Arlene gave the most constructive criticism IMO.
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I was just wondering if Arlene Philips was ever bitchy or cruel to the contestants (I "flick" into SCD) and if so was that why she was sacked ie was it because she was too bitchy or was she quite placid, and could it be that she did not have enough "chaputz" to carry with the programme, I will be interested in what posters have to say about this?
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I have objected to a few remarks made by Arlene but generally they have been on It Takes Two or in the newspapers rather than at the judging table, however last year she did one thing which I thought was really bad. After the final she was on BBC Breakfast with Tom and Camilla (who had won just incase anyone had forgotten) Arlene said that Rachel and Vincents showdance was 'awful' now I thought this was completely uneccessary and just plain nasty, talk about kicking someone when they are down, infact talk about kicking someone that you pretty much supported to win all the way through the series, so hypocritical too.
Having said all that I still think it is wrong to replace her with someone who is not qualified to do so. |
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I have objected to a few remarks made by Arlene but generally they have been on It Takes Two or in the newspapers rather than at the judging table, however last year she did one thing which I thought was really bad. After the final she was on BBC Breakfast with Tom and Camilla (who had won just incase anyone had forgotten) Arlene said that Rachel and Vincents showdance was 'awful' now I thought this was completely uneccessary and just plain nasty, talk about kicking someone when they are down, infact talk about kicking someone that you pretty much supported to win all the way through the series, so hypocritical too.
Having said all that I still think it is wrong to replace her with someone who is not qualified to do so. |
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it was still miles better than Lisa's !!!
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it was still miles better than Lisa's !!!
![]() ![]() ![]() Personally I do think Arlene wasn't keen on Rachel for some reason (I wasn't a Rachel fan btw). But I agree with Jan2555*GG* that most remarks made by Arlene to which I might have objected were not on the SCD show, but on ITT or in TV interviews. |
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In my view it doesnt matter if it was the worst showdance ever (oh no that was Lisa wasnt it
) it was completely uneccessary for her to say so at that stage, to me it was a bit spiteful and like she had suddenly decided that she wanted to nail her colours to Tom and Camilla, who I am pretty sure she didnt want to win all the way through the actual final. Maybe its just me but by that stage surely its just 'nicer' to be polite about everyone and draw a line under the series which was what she was there for. I always got the impression that Arlene favoured Rachel so just shows how different people pick up different things. |
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In my view it doesnt matter if it was the worst showdance ever (oh no that was Lisa wasnt it
) it was completely uneccessary for her to say so at that stage, to me it was a bit spiteful and like she had suddenly decided that she wanted to nail her colours to Tom and Camilla, who I am pretty sure she didnt want to win all the way through the actual final.I agree with the other poster that the remarks that usually caused problems were comments in papers and other tv show including ITT. Didn't Arlene said something about Ola and Pole dancer when Ola was dancing with Kenny? |
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In the first ITT after Kelly's tragic withdrawal it was obvious that Claudia wa plugging the party line, to focus on everything else but the Kelly story. Arlene broke rank and said how saddened she was. Claudia hastily moved on.
After the (four-tens) Matt D versus Gethin dance-off, Arlene (having awarded Matt D a ten) was the only one to dare choose Gethin by reason that Gethin improved in the dance-off but Matt D went backwards. Clearly Arlene is fearless. Unfortunately over John Sergeant she went off her rocker. To say 64yo John who lost 2 stone practising had done no work, to pan this 64yo who risked a heart attack by lifting Kristina twice, to go to NOTW with an innuendo about Kristina's "disappearing clothes" was grossly offensive to Kristina, to John, and to the public. She lives by the sword. Eventually she dies by it. |
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I'd forgotten about Arlene's Ola comment which was gob-smacking, but I honestly think she didn't realise what she was saying at that moment. The comment about Kristina on the other hand is a perfect example imho of Arlene being 'bitchy'.
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it was still miles better than Lisa's !!!
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I'd forgotten about Arlene's Ola comment which was gob-smacking, but I honestly think she didn't realise what she was saying at that moment. The comment about Kristina on the other hand is a perfect example imho of Arlene being 'bitchy'.
As for the Kristina comment and other comments she made last year I think it is one of the reasons why Arlene isn't returning. |
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Agree about the Ola comment something Arlene says things before realising what she said but I remember the comment caused uproar on here.
As for the Kristina comment and other comments she made last year I think it is one of the reasons why Arlene isn't returning. and I do agree with you.
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That's not really saying much - I thought Rachel's was ok actually not terrible not great but then again apart from Zoe's and Tom's most showdances tend to be vaguely disappointing probably because they are hyped up so much.
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After the (four-tens) Matt D versus Gethin dance-off, Arlene (having awarded Matt D a ten) was the only one to dare choose Gethin by reason that Gethin improved in the dance-off but Matt D went backwards. Clearly Arlene is fearless. Unfortunately over John Sergeant she went off her rocker. To say 64yo John who lost 2 stone practising had done no work, to pan this 64yo who risked a heart attack by lifting Kristina twice, to go to NOTW with an innuendo about Kristina's "disappearing clothes" was grossly offensive to Kristina, to John, and to the public. I agree with you about JS but I guess it fits a pattern of her losing in getting annoyed with people whom she thinks are coasting. Arlene can be pretty tough - you got that impression by what the Armchair panel of ex-Hot Gossip members said - and sometimes I think she thinks if people mess up it's because they aren't trying which I don't think is the case always. It still doesn't mean she deserved to be made redundant in favour of someone with less expertise than herself. |
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I really don't think Arlene was bitch. Although she didn't wrap anything up, she did offer constructive advice and despite her salivating over the likes of Ramps, Mark Foster and Gethin she didn't show favouritism when it came to marking them.
I found her voice a bit shrill and the alliteration embarrassing, although she did moderate that last year: but apart from the JS fiasco (and they were all guilty of contributing to that,) I found her fair and certainly nowhere as bitchy as Craig. |
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Arlene was the judge who told them straight their faults - and she lavished praise on them for correcting them. Some of them even got tears from her after their performance - she is so swept away with the dance, so in tune with it. She often threw down the gauntlet to the contestants. She just wanted them to be the best they could possibly be and I loved her for that honesty.
No other person in this show has passion for dance like Arlene and at times she got exasperated and a bit cross. Understandable mostly But she wasn't and isn't a bitch. Imho, if Arlene truly was a bitch, she would've been axed years ago and she certainly wouldn't be getting such public support like she is. She was sacked because the BBC don't think her face fits anymore. It's sickening, but it's obviously too old for the new SCD merchandise they are going to try and flog us. There's no other explanation that's remotely believable. |
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Have the BBC or some Alesha supporter put this thread up to muddy the water? The issue is clear. Was it right to replace Arlene with someone who knows far too little to be a judge? The answer is NO.
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Have the BBC or some Alesha supporter put this thread up to muddy the water? The issue is clear. Was it right to replace Arlene with someone who knows far too little to be a judge? The answer is NO.
In answer to the original question though, yes Arlene could be bitchy. She told Matt he danced with the sex appeal of a gnat... I found that quite a spiteful thing to say to someone on national TV. There were plenty of constructive ways to say what was missing from the dance without humiliating him. |
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i always thought she was more bitchy than the others.
i remember when she said to both fiona phillips and john sergeant that they didn't try hard enough, which seemed to upset both of them, because it was obvious that they both worked their socks off but they were just useless dancers. i don't think she's a bitchy person though, she's just so passionate about the dancing and wants everyone to do well. |
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I distinctly remember her bitch against Phil Daniels which basically was:
"It's funny to see you in this position because I've worked with you and I've seen you as a master of your art. I was in awe of you. And now I'm looking and 'ah ha! you ain't so good really'." It was said in the most spitefully childish way and I thought that was jaw dropping unprofessional. No one really knew how to react when she said it because it was so unnecessarily bitchy. |
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i remember when she said to both fiona phillips and john sergeant that they didn't try hard enough, which seemed to upset both of them, because it was obvious that they both worked their socks off but they were just useless dancers. Kate Garraway worked her stockings off, injured first in the foot then in the spine. After her paso danced with a dodgy back she approached the judges supported by Anton. She was ashen, trembling with pain. For once Brucie was not joking when he said, "Would you like to lie down?". I watched Fiona Phillips on YouTube only. There seemed no sign of her working her socks off. Brendan was furious with her. By contrast Anton was full of admiration for Kate, and Kristina for John. Quote:
Was Arlene ever Bitchy?
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Have the BBC or some Alesha supporter put this thread up to muddy the water? The issue is clear. Was it right to replace Arlene with someone who knows far too little to be a judge? The answer is NO.
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Ok I am the OP who put this post up, and I am very disappointed about the above quote. My intentions was quite simply as ask if Arlene was bitch and it has nothign to do with the replacement, I know she won the programme last year (I found out via this website) and I know that the other panel members have been bitchy (again via this website) and I just wanted to know where Arlene "stood" in the panel ie was she the Amanda Holden of SCD
No ! Arlene knows what she's talking about
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