I see that over on http://www.joinfreesat.co.uk/ there seems to be rumour that CH4 HD may join freesat - I really hope this turns out to be true, its well overdue. Read the comments from admin on the link.
Rumour that CH4 HD may join freesat
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Originally Posted by linkinpark875:
“Well it joined cable today.”
“Well it joined cable today.”
oh yes, so it is! Just waiting on freesat now.....
quote from joinfreesat admin post "We are being sent unofficial reports that C4HD will be on Freesat mid-August. We cannot validate these rumours at this time."
I love the poll on there, apparently ITVs research says most want a red button HD service.
The poll has 94% in favour of a permanent ITV HD channel! I havent read anyone on here who prefers the red button. Thats a perfect example of how out of touch ITV are.
The poll has 94% in favour of a permanent ITV HD channel! I havent read anyone on here who prefers the red button. Thats a perfect example of how out of touch ITV are.
Originally Posted by Flyer 10:
“I havent read anyone on here who prefers the red button. Thats a perfect example of how out of touch ITV are.”
“I havent read anyone on here who prefers the red button. Thats a perfect example of how out of touch ITV are.”
Read it here first. I'd far prefer a 'red button' service for simucast programmes- a simple pop up offering a HD choice seems far less hassle than yet another row on the EPG. Same with +1 channels.
That said, ITV need to pull their finger out of their rears and ensure the HD tags are there.
Originally Posted by Blotch:
“oh yes, so it is! Just waiting on freesat now.....
quote from joinfreesat admin post "We are being sent unofficial reports that C4HD will be on Freesat mid-August. We cannot validate these rumours at this time."”
“oh yes, so it is! Just waiting on freesat now.....
quote from joinfreesat admin post "We are being sent unofficial reports that C4HD will be on Freesat mid-August. We cannot validate these rumours at this time."”
I SOOO hope so!
Originally Posted by Lengster:
“I totally agree, red-buttons are in fact better imo - IF they work properly.”
“I totally agree, red-buttons are in fact better imo - IF they work properly.”
C4 HD is better without 'red button' as you get all the non HD programmes upscaled and broadcast with a higher bit-rate than the SD channel. We haven't watched 104 since C4 HD launched in 2007.
Originally Posted by linkinpark875:
“Well it joined cable today.”
“Well it joined cable today.”
It's not related though. C4 HD is has always been available to Virgin.
Originally Posted by derek500:
“C4 HD is better without 'red button' as you get all the non HD programmes upscaled and broadcast with a higher bit-rate than the SD channel. We haven't watched 104 since C4 HD launched in 2007.”
“C4 HD is better without 'red button' as you get all the non HD programmes upscaled and broadcast with a higher bit-rate than the SD channel. We haven't watched 104 since C4 HD launched in 2007.”
I don't mean only for HD programmes, I mean it should be upscaled but not a seperate channel.
Originally Posted by davidredge:
“Read it here first. I'd far prefer a 'red button' service for simucast programmes- a simple pop up offering a HD choice seems far less hassle than yet another row on the EPG. Same with +1 channels.
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“Read it here first. I'd far prefer a 'red button' service for simucast programmes- a simple pop up offering a HD choice seems far less hassle than yet another row on the EPG. Same with +1 channels.
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But only if you could record them, which is not the case with most red button streams at the moment.
Originally Posted by michael37:
“But only if you could record them, which is not the case with most red button streams at the moment.”
“But only if you could record them, which is not the case with most red button streams at the moment.”
This is true, anything appearing on ITV HD is almost unwatchable because I can't set a timer to record it and watch it later because it doesn't show up as a unique channel, and doesn't appear in the EPG, thus making setting timers or recordings impossible (not that I'd want to record anything ITV show anyway, but I'm just making a point)
Originally Posted by michael37:
“But only if you could record them, which is not the case with most red button streams at the moment.”
“But only if you could record them, which is not the case with most red button streams at the moment.”
The ITV HD red button stream is recordable via freesat..
Originally Posted by GaseousClay:
“The ITV HD red button stream is recordable via freesat..”
“The ITV HD red button stream is recordable via freesat..”
It is, but it's not on the epg, so you can't set a timed recording if you're out/at work/busy/your life doesn't revolve around television, which is the problem with red button services! You have to be there, you can't reserve them for later..
Originally Posted by mikeydb:
“It is, but it's not on the epg, so you can't set a timed recording if you're out/at work/busy/your life doesn't revolve around television, which is the problem with red button services! You have to be there, you can't reserve them for later..”
“It is, but it's not on the epg, so you can't set a timed recording if you're out/at work/busy/your life doesn't revolve around television, which is the problem with red button services! You have to be there, you can't reserve them for later..”
Yes it is, and you can. We are talking about Freesat here, not Sky EPG, aren't we?
But, it would still be better as a proper chanel, even on Freesat.
Rgds.
Les.
Originally Posted by savvy:
“Yes it is, and you can. We are talking about Freesat here, not Sky EPG, aren't we?
But, it would still be better as a proper chanel, even on Freesat.
Rgds.
Les.”
“Yes it is, and you can. We are talking about Freesat here, not Sky EPG, aren't we?
But, it would still be better as a proper chanel, even on Freesat.
Rgds.
Les.”
Everytime I have a timer set to record ITV HD it seems to mess up that and other recordings so it's not working properly.
The sooner CH4 HD joins freesat the better-I then can ditch Sky HD. CH4 HD picture quality is best bar none in my humble opinion.
Originally Posted by davidredge:
“Read it here first. I'd far prefer a 'red button' service for simucast programmes- a simple pop up offering a HD choice seems far less hassle than yet another row on the EPG. Same with +1 channels.
That said, ITV need to pull their finger out of their rears and ensure the HD tags are there.”
“Read it here first. I'd far prefer a 'red button' service for simucast programmes- a simple pop up offering a HD choice seems far less hassle than yet another row on the EPG. Same with +1 channels.
That said, ITV need to pull their finger out of their rears and ensure the HD tags are there.”
No, the idea is that ITV HD is a permanent service and would replace ITV SD, there would be no extra line on the EPG. Also the upscaled content would be far better than SD.
There are no drawbacks to a permanent ITV HD.
Originally Posted by hedgidj:
“Everytime I have a timer set to record ITV HD it seems to mess up that and other recordings so it's not working properly.”
“Everytime I have a timer set to record ITV HD it seems to mess up that and other recordings so it's not working properly.
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As evidenced by some other threads with your other recording problems, you appear to have a setup/dish alignment/signal problem.
If you are not receiving 90/100% quality signal consistently, then you will probably be missing some of the AR signals telling your box to Start/Stop recordings.
If you get this seen to, you will probably have a much happier experience with your box than you have up to now.
Rgds.
Les.
Originally Posted by savvy:
“Yes it is, and you can. We are talking about Freesat here, not Sky EPG, aren't we?.”
“Yes it is, and you can. We are talking about Freesat here, not Sky EPG, aren't we?.”
I realise now that it gives you a choice when HD is available, but it's not obvious.
Originally Posted by mikeydb:
“I realise now that it gives you a choice when HD is available, but it's not obvious.”
“I realise now that it gives you a choice when HD is available, but it's not obvious.”
Why does it need to be obvious? Does your recording requirements revolve around whether the programme is in HD or because you enjoy the programme?
Originally Posted by GaseousClay:
“Why does it need to be obvious? Does your recording requirements revolve around whether the programme is in HD or because you enjoy the programme?”
“Why does it need to be obvious? Does your recording requirements revolve around whether the programme is in HD or because you enjoy the programme?”
I'm not sure what you're getting at, but as I have an HD tv, if HD media is available I'd like to take advantage of it. 
Originally Posted by mikeydb:
“ I'm not sure what you're getting at, but as I have an HD tv, if HD media is available I'd like to take advantage of it. ”
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I'm not sure what you're getting at, but as I have an HD tv, if HD media is available I'd like to take advantage of it. ”
well I can't argue with that.. just the point I was trying make is that the way the red button ITV HD epg is implemented on the SD epg and because it's not a full time channel it works well for the viewer whose primary requirement is to record a programme they enjoy with the added bonus of getting a choice of HD or SD.
Yeah but for many people, recording ITV HD is an impossibility. Its also virtually impossible to find HD stuff on ITV via the EPG.
Would you really chose an SD version ahead of upscaled SD on the HD channel?
The only benefit of a red button service is if they had HD content from all their other channels but the dont.
Would you really chose an SD version ahead of upscaled SD on the HD channel?
The only benefit of a red button service is if they had HD content from all their other channels but the dont.
Originally Posted by savvy:
“As evidenced by some other threads with your other recording problems, you appear to have a setup/dish alignment/signal problem.
If you are not receiving 90/100% quality signal consistently, then you will probably be missing some of the AR signals telling your box to Start/Stop recordings.
If you get this seen to, you will probably have a much happier experience with your box than you have up to now.
Rgds.
Les.”
“As evidenced by some other threads with your other recording problems, you appear to have a setup/dish alignment/signal problem.
If you are not receiving 90/100% quality signal consistently, then you will probably be missing some of the AR signals telling your box to Start/Stop recordings.
If you get this seen to, you will probably have a much happier experience with your box than you have up to now.
Rgds.
Les.”
Do you know, I hadn't thought of that, you are probably right given my dodgy signal issues. When the leaves fall from the trees in October and I can move back to my main dish then it'll probably be fine.
Need to get away from the thought that everything is clock controlled like the old days!!
At the moment my Humax 9300 terrestrial receiver (in bedroom) seems much more reliable recording wise so I may swap them until October (miss the HD though!!)
I could set up the Sky HD box just for viewing BBC, ITV, and Ch4 HD though I suppose, I was thinking of doing just for Channel 4 but that would mean another feed at the moment as my summer dish only has three connected and the third one feeds the Humax Foxsat HD in my son's room.
I dont think you can have a 9300 and a Foxsat HD in the same room remote wise, can you? (have to try it).
If I was to have terrestrial in the lounge for recording through the 9300 then the two feeds would then be spare so I could feed the Sky HD box with one of them for viewing only.
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