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1st August - Still no fireware Update!!
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Widget76
14-08-2009
Originally Posted by savvy:
“Bob has already said here that there will be no public beta.

Rgds.

Les.”

I never said it was going to be a "public" one now did I?
savvy
14-08-2009
Originally Posted by Widget76:
“I never said it was going to be a "public" one now did I?”

No you didn't

I had assumed that you posted your response to the USB upgrade from a web download (from the Humax website).

Presumably, then, you belong to a panel of beta-testers for Freesat?

Rgds.


Les.
Widget76
14-08-2009
Originally Posted by savvy:
“No you didn't

I had assumed that you posted your response to the USB upgrade from a web download (from the Humax website).

Presumably, then, you belong to a panel of beta-testers for Freesat?

Rgds.


Les.”

Well I got an email this morning to invite me to be one, dependant on my answers to some questions and some evaluation on their end.
I guess as with many things in life, i'll have to wait and see.
Bob_Cat
14-08-2009
If I referred to public betas I hope it would never have been in the context of iPlayer because it is not my place to comment on someone elses' service. I have said Humax won't beta software, we test it in-house and try to only release software we are happy with.

Bob
savvy
14-08-2009
Originally Posted by Bob_Cat:
“If I referred to public betas I hope it would never have been in the context of iPlayer because it is not my place to comment on someone elses' service. I have said Humax won't beta software, we test it in-house and try to only release software we are happy with.

Bob”

I was referring to your post saying you did not need/want forum members to be beta testers of the upcoming release in response to suggestions of that from some people.

Re the Freesat iplayer USB provision, how could they do that "to update boxes" without your new firmware enabling it? This is where I'm confused about Widget76's post.

Rgds.


Les.
Bob_Cat
14-08-2009
Savvy,

As has long been said, we are preparing a new software release, when and how that will get to different people will be revealed in time. Freesat are managing the testing of iPlayer so I can't/won't comment on it.

Bob
Flyer 10
14-08-2009
Originally Posted by Bob_Cat:
“If I referred to public betas I hope it would never have been in the context of iPlayer because it is not my place to comment on someone elses' service. I have said Humax won't beta software, we test it in-house and try to only release software we are happy with.

Bob”

Surely thats a bad idea proved by the hundreds of bugs still not fixed. The more beta testers you have, the more bugs will be found and fixed.

Ive got one more, selecting lots of channels to be deleted after a non freesat scan causes a reboot every time. I have to delete 20 channels, save, delete 20, save etc.
savvy
14-08-2009
Originally Posted by Bob_Cat:
“Savvy,

As has long been said, we are preparing a new software release, when and how that will get to different people will be revealed in time. Freesat are managing the testing of iPlayer so I can't/won't comment on it.

Bob”

Bob,

As you will know from my posts, I'm not one of the people clamouring for the update, I'm happy with the box, and the line that "it will come when it's ready".

That's not what I was getting at; I was just intrigued with the "Freesat upgrading the boxes" part of Widget76's post, and I appreciate that it's not your place to comment on Freesat testing - that's all, I wasn't fishing for dates.

Rgds.


Les.
Automan
14-08-2009
Does this also indicate we will see no firmware upgrades till they have finished testing this iplayer thingy?

The shame being that the iplayer thingy will only work for what ever percentage of box owners happen to have a wired working cat5 ethernet solution behind their HDR boxes.

Ever heard of the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?

Automan.
grahamlthompson
14-08-2009
Originally Posted by Automan:
“Does this also indicate we will see no firmware upgrades till they have finished testing this iplayer thingy.

The shame being that the iplayer thingy will only work for what ever percentage of box owners happen to have a wired working cat5 ethernet solution behind their HDR boxes.

Ever heard of the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?

Automan.”

Doesn't need to be wired a homeplug adaptor should work fine.
Automan
14-08-2009
Originally Posted by grahamlthompson:
“Doesn't need to be wired a homeplug adaptor should work fine.”

Which gives you a wired solution

And I guess not many of us will have homeplugs or the equivalent just lying around?

Also will the HDR run like a dog as does the Sky+ HD product running the extra code for their EPG?

Automan.
grahamlthompson
14-08-2009
Originally Posted by Automan:
“Which gives you a wired solution

And I guess not many of us will have homeplugs or the equivalent just lying around?

Also will the HDR run like a dog as does the Sky+ HD product running the extra code for their EPG?

Automan.”

OK . I probably won't bother wiring it up unless you get say ftp access to the stb. I have a SD virgin cable box that comes free with my broadband and phone package. I don't use it for live TV but occasionly the video on demand services including i-player is usefull
bitsandpcs
14-08-2009
Just found this :-

http://www.pvrjunction.co.uk/category/freesat/
Quote:
“Humax Preparing New Freesat+ Software Update For The FOXSAT-HDR
Posted on 13 August 2009
Tags: FOXSAT-HDR, Freesat, iplayer, IPTV, PVR
The Humax Foxsat-HDR, the first Freesat+ PVR, was released late last year to high acclaim both from the AV press and customers alike. That’s not to say the digital TV recorder is totally free from a few bugs or in need of one or two usability tweaks here and there. However we do recognise its stability when compared to pretty much every other PVR launch we can remember.

We spoke to Humax yesterday to find out the purpose of the next software update for the FOXSAT-HDR and when it might be distributed other the air (OTA) across the whole customer base.

We are told the new software will include any of those bug fixes that are ready to release, though Humax note there will be some improvements that are being worked on which will not make it to customers until another software release altogether. Following feedback received at their service desk from customers, engineers have been working on one or two improvements and the odd new feature; however these will be communicated publically nearer the release date in case some of those may have to wait until a software update further down the line.

Its no secret that Humax have been making extensive changes to the system in order to provide IPTV facilities. This will enable to FOXSAT-HDR to provide BBC iPlayer, thought to go live on Freesat this autumn.

Humax have advised PVRJunction that the current plan is to distribute the current .03 software version over the air later this month to enable all machines to get up to date before the next all new software release. The new software is planned for September/October, however a firm date will be released nearer absolute completion of the work which may come sooner or later than planned.

PVRJunction hope to release details about the software update very soon so do stay tuned!”

gagde
14-08-2009
Originally Posted by Automan:
“
However after such a long time some of the basic shortfalls / bugs should have been fixed.


Automan.”

I fully agree i think its gone right past the patience stage now even topup tv the trouble they have had with their boxes managed to get an update out quicker than this.But at the end of the day it does what it supposed to do but i feel humax have dragged their heels on this.
rent-a-nuke
14-08-2009
Originally Posted by Automan:
“Does this also indicate we will see no firmware upgrades till they have finished testing this iplayer thingy?

The shame being that the iplayer thingy will only work for what ever percentage of box owners happen to have a wired working cat5 ethernet solution behind their HDR boxes.

Ever heard of the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?

Automan.”

Oooh, me, me - I'm one of the lucky few! My HDR has been plugged into ethernet ever since I got it, alas it's been as much use as a chocolate fireguard so far...
Flyer 10
14-08-2009
Hasnt everyone already got the .03 version so they are saying the upgrade is Sept/Oct which is very poor, seeing as its supposed to be here by the end of the summer.

A whole year to fix bugs. My ethernet is plugged in and ready to go but Id have rather waited another 6 months for it and had the bugs fixed 6 months ago.
Automan
14-08-2009
Yes, my living room HDR is plugged into my LAN but the other two are not as no data points exist in their locations.

I can't imagaine more than 5% of Foxsat-HDR owners will have their units linked up to their broadband (at present).

And from that posting earlier it looks like this upgrade may not occur till October or beyond.

No doubt soon after that a new model will be out and no more corrections will be made to our obsolete boxes.

I bet the next model will have wireless networking built in

Automan.
richard_g_uk
14-08-2009
Mines linked upto the home network purely because I had a spare CAT 5 cable, the router is near the HDR and it was easier to link it up whilst I had to move everything whilst installing it (save moving it later). I have Virgin catchup as well so the iPlayer stuff doesn't really interest me but I hope Humax will add the ability to "ftp" to the HDR to transfer recordings at some point.

Concerning when the firmware is released, if the long awaited update contains iPlayer functionality then I suspect the Humax marketing department will want it out on their boxes before the official launch date of the Freesat iPlayer service so as not to get left behind the other manufacturers (or to try and get one up on the other manufacturers who may be slow in updating there boxes).
grahamlthompson
15-08-2009
Originally Posted by Flyer 10:
“Hasnt everyone already got the .03 version so they are saying the upgrade is Sept/Oct which is very poor, seeing as its supposed to be here by the end of the summer.

A whole year to fix bugs. My ethernet is plugged in and ready to go but Id have rather waited another 6 months for it and had the bugs fixed 6 months ago.”

Only people who have bought recent boxes have 03. The latest OTA version is 02
Flyer 10
15-08-2009
But as far as we know, theres no noticeable difference between the 02 and 03 anyway.
White-Knight
15-08-2009
I have 03 and can't say I've noticed anything (other than I don't seem to have artefacts on BBC HD but that could equally be my tv as that handles the up-scaling and its top end model).
Automan
15-08-2009
I may be wrong but my 03 box when it starts recording says that on box front as the 02 displays the round recording circle on screen - However not 100% sure.

Automan.
richard_g_uk
15-08-2009
Originally Posted by Automan:
“I may be wrong but my 03 box when it starts recording says that on box front as the 02 displays the round recording circle on screen - However not 100% sure.

Automan.”

My box is an 02 and when it starts recording it displays the onscreen circle in the top left of the screen and the display on the box briefly changes to "Recording Start" (or "Start Recording" - I can't remember).
mangadongle
15-08-2009
Originally Posted by Automan:
“Which gives you a wired solution
And I guess not many of us will have homeplugs or the equivalent just lying around?”

Well that's your choice isn't it? How much would you want something like iPlayer on your box? Enough to buy a homeplug or not? It's entirely up to you.

Or of course, a Wireless bridge.
Automan
16-08-2009
Originally Posted by mangadongle:
“Well that's your choice isn't it? How much would you want something like iPlayer on your box? Enough to buy a homeplug or not? It's entirely up to you.

Or of course, a Wireless bridge.”

Granted, but everyone who has an issue with their Humax box are all being forced to wait for a fix because it seems we have to wait for firmware that includes iplayer.

Perhaps we could have a poll thread on "will you use your HDR box with iplayer"?

1. Yes I will
2. I would like to but cannot justify the cost of providing a network soultion to my HDR box location.
3. I have no broadband.

Of course response to this would be biased as most readers of this forum will have internet access at home but of course not every HDR owner has.

Still, till it arrives I suppose we also don't know how good or bad it will work e.g. will the picture quality be crap on a 46" TV?

And of course will it adversly effect the current features of the HDR box?

Automan.
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