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Brian 77

28-08-2009

Originally Posted by ALANM:
“Surely STV/BBC Scotland could purchase a 1st pick package for the Scottish broadcast territory? I bet RTE gets 1st pick of matches for its territory.

If your interpretation of the rules is correct, we could end up in a situation where Celtic matches are broadcast live and free to view for viewers in Ireland but are not available to viewers in Scotland”

RTE didn't win the rights for the Europa League, Setanta Ireland did i'm not clear on what picks they have or if they lost some rights due to Setanta UK going bust. Sorry TV3 also have rights in Ireland.

sparkie70

28-08-2009

Originally Posted by mlt11:
“The fixtures also illustrate why the rights aren't worth much.

Everyone plays 3 games at 6pm and 3 games at 8.05pm. So half the matches aren't even fully in prime-time.

But a good chance Five will try and pick up Setanta's rights for a nominal fee so they can have doubleheaders.”

Looking at the fixtures what stevenjhill provided it would make sense FIVE to pick up Setanta's rights but I expect ITV to pick up the rest of the 2nd picks & sell the rest to FIVE.

Lets take Group C when Celtic play Hamburg in matchday 3 & 4, on matchday 3 there is Fulham v Roma, & on matchday 4, Everton v Benfica with 8.05 pm ko's which FIVE could well pick.

Also I can see British Eurosport could be intrested in the 3rd & 4th picks.

wolvesdavid

28-08-2009

How long is the deal for?

ariusuk

28-08-2009

Originally Posted by mlt11:
“Unless someone else buys the rights which were held by Setanta.”

Originally Posted by loyalsince:
“On another thread this has been dicussed as 2nd picks may have to be 'saved' contractually for the semi-finals. Hence as Setanta (from memory) had 2 semi final games (2 on Five) if no-one buys Setanta's package then ITV may not be able to show it.

Imagine if the semi line up was Roma V Everton and Benfica V Fulham with only one game shown live ”

Well whatever happensd both second legs and one first leg would be shown.

Originally Posted by ALANM:
“Thanks for the info. After the recent Champions League disappointment, it looks like us Celtic fans are going to miss out here as well”

The main problem is that so many Celtic games are on at the same time as Fulham games.

Originally Posted by mlt11:
“But a good chance Five will try and pick up Setanta's rights for a nominal fee so they can have doubleheaders.”

I think they may not be able to.

The Wanderer

28-08-2009

Originally Posted by Brian 77:
“RTE didn't win the rights for the Europa League, Setanta Ireland did i'm not clear on what picks they have or if they lost some rights due to Setanta UK going bust. Sorry TV3 also have rights in Ireland.”

TV3 first pick, Setanta all others I believe

Originally Posted by wolvesdavid:
“How long is the deal for?”

Until end of 2011/12 season

loyalsince

29-08-2009

Originally Posted by ariusuk:
“Well whatever happensd both second legs and one first leg would be shown.

I think they may not be able to.”

Thanks mlt11 and airisuk for clarifying the semi-final line ups. Why wouldn't FIVE be able to bid for Setanta's rights?

ariusuk

29-08-2009

Originally Posted by loyalsince:
“Thanks mlt11 and airisuk for clarifying the semi-final line ups. Why wouldn't FIVE be able to bid for Setanta's rights?”

I think someone else has already bought them.

SteveMartin

29-08-2009

Originally Posted by ariusuk:
“I think someone else has already bought them.”

Ooh you tease!

Any more info?

mlt11

29-08-2009

Originally Posted by ariusuk:
“I think someone else has already bought them.”

Don't think there's been any public announcement so I'm going to guess ITV4!

tobysjug

31-08-2009

i think you'll find it has four letters...

Sirius

01-09-2009

Any idea if/when we'll see anything confirmed?

Sirius

01-09-2009

ESPN!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009...pa-league-espn

mlt11

01-09-2009

Originally Posted by Sirius:
“ESPN!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009...pa-league-espn”

That's a slightly confusing article as it refers to a "joint deal with Channel Five".

However reading the article it appears that ESPN has bought all the rights previously held by Setanta.

tobysjug

01-09-2009

Originally Posted by mlt11:
“That's a slightly confusing article as it refers to a "joint deal with Channel Five".

However reading the article it appears that ESPN has bought all the rights previously held by Setanta.”

It's wrong..it's the previously described three way deal with five and itv...espn and itv split the pics after five's first pic

linkinpark875

01-09-2009

Originally Posted by Sirius:
“ESPN!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009...pa-league-espn”

Where does it leave games on STV or ITV4 and Five?

Mark.

01-09-2009

Originally Posted by linkinpark875:
“Where does it leave games on STV or ITV4 and Five?”

Erm...in the same place as they were before...

This is just Setanta's rights

grabbi

02-09-2009

Took DS yonks to report this.

ariusuk

02-09-2009

Originally Posted by tobysjug:
“It's wrong..it's the previously described three way deal with five and itv...espn and itv split the pics after five's first pic”

To add to this, for MD1, ESPN gets second and fourth picks, while ITV gets third and fifth. That swaps for MD2.

Now you can all guess what games everyone has picked.

gilsta

02-09-2009

Originally Posted by ariusuk:
“To add to this, for MD1, ESPN gets second and fourth picks, while ITV gets third and fifth. That swaps for MD2.

Now you can all guess what games everyone has picked.”

The fifth pick sweepstake could be interesting.

mlt11

02-09-2009

It's not a great choice is it?!

Whoever has 2nd pick has a choice of Fulham or Celtic - ie one of the least attractive PL teams for TV or a team of almost no interest to 90% of the UK.

I guess Fulham will normally be preferred.

Also is it worth ITV4 bothering to show 4th / 5th picks? Will they get more than "normal" ITV4 programming bearing in mind they'll be up against Everton on Five? Though I guess it will be a contractual commitment so they'll have to.

SSC

02-09-2009

So that's...

1st pick - five
2nd pick - espn
3rd pick - itv
4th pick - espn
5th pick - itv

...for the group stage, with the 2nd/4th and 3rd/5th picks swapping between espn and itv throughout the six group stage matchdays - Is that right?

Also, do we get a min/max of five live group games each matchday (with three of those games involving the three British teams)?

And, how are the knock-out stage matches divided to the UK broadcasters?

I think I remember all three broadcasters were able to show highlights when the Setanta deal was struck?

Mark.

02-09-2009

Based on kick off-times and such like, my guesses for MD1 are:

1st - Everton v AEK Athens - Five
2nd - CSKA Sofia v Fulham - ESPN
3rd - Hapoel Tel-Aviv v Celtic - ITV4/STV

4th and 5th...well, take your pick of 9.05pm (CET) games...

http://www.uefa.com/Competitions/UEF...lts/index.html

ariusuk

02-09-2009

Originally Posted by Mark.:
“Based on kick off-times and such like, my guesses for MD1 are:

4th and 5th...well, take your pick of 9.05pm (CET) games...
”

...you haven't really guessed there have you?

Mark.

02-09-2009

Originally Posted by ariusuk:
“...you haven't really guessed there have you?”

Erm...1st to 3rd I have.

It's certainly not a given that ESPN will take Fulham over Celtic, because they might have a strategy that sees them, with the loss of 23 EPL games from next season, want to keep Scottish viewers sweet.

I would also argue that Celtic are a slightly bigger club than Fulham.

ariusuk

02-09-2009

Originally Posted by Mark.:
“Erm...1st to 3rd I have.

It's certainly not a given that ESPN will take Fulham over Celtic, because they might have a strategy that sees them, with the loss of 23 EPL games from next season, want to keep Scottish viewers sweet.

I would also argue that Celtic are a slightly bigger club than Fulham.”

But not 4th or 5th.

The question of which British team gets picked first is interesting - Everton will not always be the most attractive game.

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