My 9200 is not changeover compatible and Humax advise me to wait till we are on full change over power before purchasing another machine. This is next year.

So Im thinking of purchasing another Foxsat to run alongside my other Foxsat.

Can I do this by just purchasing a cable spitter?
These seem to be available from about £5 in gold.
Will picture quality be lost.? ..Im not interested in HD, my picture
is so splendid as it is. My main concern is more about quality sound than HD quality.

Can anyone advise me please.

You can't use a splitter otherwise both tuners would be trying to control the attached LNB at the same time.

You could use the second box via 'passthrough' from the first but this would severly limit which channels you could watch/record.

I very much doubt this!!!

I think he means that it can't get a good enough signal before changeover.

Where did you get this idea from. It's not on the list of stb's that's not 8k compatible

http://www.digitaluk.co.uk/__data/as...d-7_May_09.pdf

I used the term 'change over compatible' because I saw it used on some sites when I was trying to choose a replacement for the 9200.

Our change over date was officially the 5th of this month..(aug)
but from searching the threads on here it seems that a change over date is not actual... For instance...our power goes up
a tad at the end of the year (2nd phase)...then...we finally reach full power some time in the year 2011 !! No one has been officially advised of this.

I think 'he who doubted my statement' would be pretty miffed if his Humax was hit in the same way. (only joking here)

So to me and others ...'change over compatible' is a fair statement. It wont work now we have officially past the official change over date given by the powers that be.

Technical staff at Humax advised me yesterday not to purchase
another Humax because I may encounter the same problems until this full power next year is switched on.

Can anyone please advise me on they would deal with it.
I totally rely on my Humax and Foxsat which record most of what I watch.

It was not an idea gleaned from a web site...it was from
Debby at Sales at Humax via telephone who gave me some advice to reset the 9200..I did this and it was back to normal...antenna strength up ...EPG back..etc. But it did not last...

She had speak to her Technicians before she could recommend a new purchase for me.
She phoned back in the afternoon yesterday to say that The Technical Depart suggested I wait until next year after the full power date because they could not guarantee that the same thing would happen on a new machine.

Still puzzled in what way is the stb not compatible with a transmitter that has already changed over to all digital. There are quite a few transmitters now past dso and no reports of problems with any 9200's. At DSO apart from increase in transmission power the BBC mux changes to 8k (instead of 2k), some older freeview and ON-digital boxesw are not 8k compatible and so won't work, the 9200 is not one of them.

As people have said, the 9xxx series is compatible with DSO. There are plently of threads in the Freeview forum where 9200 owners report performance is OK post-DSO in their area. They may have had to do a reset and a manual search/tune, but then they are OK.

I have been following the Redruth threads, that the OP is referring to, and there is an "issue" with some of the new/renamed muxes being on low power, some until 2011. The Humax advice of a reset to try & recover your slow EPG, is fairly standard.

But, the problem is not with the box, it's the strength & quality of the signal it is being given. It won't be any different with boxes being advertised as "DSO compliant". It is a function of the Transmitter, power, and your aerial installation.

@cybrook, you ask for advice - I would contact a reputable aerial installer in your area, fully familiar with the particular DSO issues in your area (get a recommendation from neighbours who have been successfully sorted out, or contact the CAI).

If there's nothing that they can do, then go down your dual Foxsat route (I presume you are talking HDRs as you mention recording), get a Quad/Octo LNB installed and run 4 feeds - 2 to each HDR for full recording functionality.

Rgds.


Les.

I think what he's trying to say Graham is his current box is fubared and that Humax can't guarantee the current models to be fully compatible with the changeover (why that would be I don't know) so he should wait before buying a replacement.

On the Foxsat subject, you really want a twin LNB and another run of cable.

Yes, I realised it is a power issue that my 9200 cannot cope with.
Thank you for accepting my issues and that I cannot use my 9200 now. My area is Glamorgan. SW.

Thank you for accepting that terms such as DSO compliant are being used in the pursuit of sales and that I did not dream it..lol.

And thank you for your all your lucid advice on a future path for me.

All other advice greatly received.
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I dont really want to go back to sky but it could be cheaper than another Foxsat HDR and installation of extra cable etc.

Id like to complain about this helpless situation...who are the main parties that deal with the Changeover?

If the signals too strong for the tuners a plug in attenuator will sort this out but might of course affect the weaker mux. If you have an aerial amplifier remove it.

Yes...WK... that is what I said ..Im sorry if it was found unclear.

Ms CyBrook thanks you...lol.....and thanks you for the LNB advice.

That is interesting...
my aerial's signal comes from a main aerial somewhere on my
estate and feeds many homes. I dont know if this has an amp and
there is no way of finding out without a huge research job into original builders and land ownership.

But I would not mind purchasing one of these plug in attenuators you refere to.... what sort of price should I pay for one?...and do I just ask for a plug in attenuator? It may be worth it if they are not overly expensive if makes my 9200 spring back into action.
This could be a grand solution.

Just to be clear, if you want to operate two HDRs with full recording functionality do not fit a Twin LNB. This will only allow you to run one feed to each HDR. It's not clear from your OP, but it looks as though you only have 1 feed now?

Get the installer to install a Quad, or Octo for future use.

I'd still try to get someone to look at my Freeview aerial installation/setup first, though.

Rgds.


Les.

cybrook,

I am not sure who you have been speaking to, but I have contacted our Humax Direct sales team and they don't have anyone working in the office called Debbie (or similar names). I don't think you will need to replace your PVR-9200T. We aren't aware of any issues relating to over-power on this product, but it depends on how excessive the power is, if your signal level really saturating an attenuator should help with the issue significantly. With an attenuator masking of lower level signals shouldn't pose much of a problem unless you have marginal reception on some of the multiplexes.

The Freeview receiver PVR-9200T does need a retune (using a 'default setting') during digital switch-off / switch-over, in keeping with most other DTT receivers, but it will function well after a retune. If you have any further issues other than this during the switchover actions then please contact Humax Support directly as we have people dedicated to supporting DSO. Email: uksupport@humax-digital.co.uk supplying as much information about your circumstances as possible or by Phone.

Regards,

Bob

They normally come in 6db and 9db fixed attenuators and you can buy a variable one that's likely to be your best bet as you may well find a setting that tames the strong signals and still allows the weaker mux to be viewed.
Screwfix sell them (you may have a local branch)

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/29190/...ble-Attenuator

Oh Lord...its beginning to sound like I made it all up...lol..
Have just scratched around for the bits of paper that had at the ready to take note on ..but so far can on find the word...'Default' which was the area I should get to within the Humax.

I even put a public 'thank you Debbie of Humax' up here in one of the threads I was so pleased with the help I got from her.

However..the Technical Department would no doubt confirm that some female from the Sales department was relating my plight to them yesterday afternoon..

By gum... it will all come out in the wash...lol..

Hi Bob...Signal power is at the end of bar in all cases for quality
the strength bar is reading approx 58% in most areas.

When viewing all channels are a fine quality..there has been a few fuzzy hours on the Virgin channel ....and the BB4 EPG has always been sluggish...always needed to tune into the channel for ages before the menu shows...have always regularly re-tuned.

You are a star for giving me all the other info within the above mail..thank you.x

You are my savior today GT....Im going to get on to them now.x

Just checking before I order....is this correct...is this right item..
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VHF/UHF Variable Attenuator


VHF/UHF Variable Attenuator in metal housing. Coax plug to socket. Frequency range 5-1000MHz. 75Ohm impedance.
VHF/UHF Variable Attenuato
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Thank you...Cy.

That's the little blighter . Hope it solves your problem

PS the link does not work

Dont worry about the link...it just occurred due to fast swift cut and paste from the Screwfix window...I thinks it just probably the logo which i know would not translate well but did nothing about it due to lack of time...

Again...thank you. Rushing off to order..

It would appear that you are being fed from a "Communal Aerial System". Have you checked with your neighbours and other people using the same system? Are they having any problems?

The Aerial "Headend" might contain splitters/filters/equalisers/amps etc which might need adjustment by the system owners/maintainers.

You might get more help with your Freeview/9200 problems if you post in the terrestrial forums:

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/f...splay.php?f=64 (Technical)
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/f...splay.php?f=13 (Freeview)



Graham.

Thanks Graham... Those that I can ask are on Sky and one person just has a normal freeview boxes that seems to be working OK and the box just went into auto re-tune.

The 9200 problem now is certainly intermittent....OK for some time an then back to being unresponsive. Thanks for the links.

I will know more when the suggested VA arrives as it will be illustrative of the situation. If it cures then I will investigate the main aerial maintenance contractor.

....Cy.