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Old 15-08-2009, 20:53
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Hi all, I've got already got sky+HD at the moment & a quad Feed LNB & dish on the wall of the house & everything is pefect for HD, I know what your thinking why go for the Freesat+ HDR box when you've already got HD. why. because I can only record 2 chanells at once or watch 1 when recording another & want to be able to record say 2 of the HD chanells on the sky+HD box what u can't get on freesat HD i.e sky sports HD & the Likes & record the BBC, ITV Or the CH 4 HD feeds at the same time then I can use the 60" Panny Tv to watch normall tv phew here are the questions

1) how easy is it to wire up another dual feed from the Quad LNB to connect to the dual LNB inputs on the back of the foxsat HDR box?

2) Does the ITV HD chanell show up in the EPG on the foxsat HDR box as I had to manually set it on the Sky+HD box

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Old 15-08-2009, 22:40
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1) how easy is it to wire up another dual feed from the Quad LNB to connect to the dual LNB inputs on the back of the foxsat HDR box?

2) Does the ITV HD chanell show up in the EPG on the foxsat HDR box as I had to manually set it on the Sky+HD box

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1) As long as you have easy access to the dish, ie within easy reach either from the ground or happy to work up a ladder, and have suitable tools to drill through the walls of your property then yes it's a simple task.

2) No ITV HD doesn't appear in the epg but if an HD programme is available via ITV then an option to record in either HD or SD is offered. Or if you just want to watch at the time then press the red button.

So basically you just utilise the normal SD epg.
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Old 16-08-2009, 09:59
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1) As long as you have easy access to the dish, ie within easy reach either from the ground or happy to work up a ladder, and have suitable tools to drill through the walls of your property then yes it's a simple task.

2) No ITV HD doesn't appear in the epg but if an HD programme is available via ITV then an option to record in either HD or SD is offered. Or if you just want to watch at the time then press the red button.

So basically you just utilise the normal SD epg.
If the current rumours are true then it may not be long before ITV HD has it's own epg slot transmitting a mixture of upscaled SD and real HD.
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Old 16-08-2009, 10:33
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1) how easy is it to wire up another dual feed from the Quad LNB to connect to the dual LNB inputs on the back of the foxsat HDR box?
Get a good cable such as Webro WF100, plugs, matching cable clips, inner and outer plastic hole covers (for the wall), brown window fitters silicone (if required).

Attach plugs to one end of the cable and tie wrap it to the dish arm (still supporting the cable so it doesn't pull down on the LNB arm (tip fasten the spare cable temporarily to dish bracket)). Screw the plugs into the LNB. Undo the spare cable, throw it to the ground and then pin the cable across / then down the wall with cable clips designed for the cable you have, to the point of entry. Drill through the brick work with a suitable sized masonry bit (checking 1st for any potential hazards in / on the other side of the wall eg. gas pipes, electricity etc). Pass the cable through the outside plastic wall cover and through the wall and then through the plastic cover for the other side. The plastic covers are made to be screwed to the wall but can be stuck to the brickwork using brown window fitters silicone to damage the brickwork less. Fasten the outer one with the open scoop side facing down (you'd be surprised how many "cowboy" fitters fasten them upside down - scooped side up so they collect water and route it straight into the house!!!) Then route it to your tv pinning as necessary either down under the floor, under the carpet edge or across the skirting board as desired. Job done.

It really is very simply with a low skill level required. The hardest part is figuring out the best route for your cable and the length you need, although in your case you can probably just mirror the Sky fitters route. BTW if in doubt on cable overbuy bearing in mind you can't easily join it (in a real under buying emergency you may be able to fit a wall socket and get around it that way but every join reduces the signal strength).
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Old 16-08-2009, 11:05
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Get a good cable such as Webro WF100, plugs, matching cable clips, inner and outer plastic hole covers (for the wall), brown window fitters silicone (if required).

Attach plugs to one end of the cable and tie wrap it to the dish arm (still supporting the cable so it doesn't pull down on the LNB arm (tip fasten the spare cable temporarily to dish bracket)). Screw the plugs into the LNB. Undo the spare cable, throw it to the ground and then pin the cable across / then down the wall with cable clips designed for the cable you have, to the point of entry. Drill through the brick work with a suitable sized masonry bit (checking 1st for any potential hazards in / on the other side of the wall eg. gas pipes, electricity etc). Pass the cable through the outside plastic wall cover and through the wall and then through the plastic cover for the other side. The plastic covers are made to be screwed to the wall but can be stuck to the brickwork using brown window fitters silicone to damage the brickwork less. Fasten the outer one with the open scoop side facing down (you'd be surprised how many "cowboy" fitters fasten them upside down - scooped side up so they collect water and route it straight into the house!!!) Then route it to your tv pinning as necessary either down under the floor, under the carpet edge or across the skirting board as desired. Job done.

It really is very simply with a low skill level required. The hardest part is figuring out the best route for your cable and the length you need, although in your case you can probably just mirror the Sky fitters route. BTW if in doubt on cable overbuy bearing in mind you can't easily join it (in a real under buying emergency you may be able to fit a wall socket and get around it that way but every join reduces the signal strength).
Nice guide, White-Knight.

BTW, do you use silicone grease and/or self-amalgamating tape?

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Old 16-08-2009, 11:07
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Nice guide, White-Knight.

BTW, do you use silicone grease and/or self-amalgamating tape?

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I'm a grease and boots devote
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Old 16-08-2009, 11:10
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I'm a grease and boots devote
I've seen the video on youtube !!
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Old 16-08-2009, 11:30
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Nice guide, White-Knight.

BTW, do you use silicone grease and/or self-amalgamating tape?

Rgds.


Les.
Hi Les,

I use these plugs instead - Cablecon Professional - waterproof to 2 bar with no boots, grease or tape needed:

http://www.satellitesuperstore.com/s...orscompression

I'm not a professional fitter but thought these were well worth the extra.
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Old 16-08-2009, 11:39
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Forgot to say, leave yourself a loop of cable where the bracket meets the wall so that if you ever have to re-terminate the LNB connectors you have spare cable.

This is my dish showing the cable tie wrapped to the LNB arm and bracket. You can see the Cablecon's as well:

http://img14.imageshack.us/i/satelittedishk.jpg/
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Old 16-08-2009, 14:26
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Forgot to say, leave yourself a loop of cable where the bracket meets the wall so that if you ever have to re-terminate the LNB connectors you have spare cable.

This is my dish showing the cable tie wrapped to the LNB arm and bracket. You can see the Cablecon's as well:

http://img14.imageshack.us/i/satelittedishk.jpg/
Very comprehensive guide White-Knight. Being nosy , can you tell me what dish and LNB set up that is. Looks Impressive.

Obviously mine is already setup using a RUSTY, Sky Dish (I still have the Sky running) It will need replacing pretty soon.

Readings on both Sky and Freesat are still very high.
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Old 16-08-2009, 14:43
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I've seen the video on youtube !!
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Old 16-08-2009, 15:59
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Very comprehensive guide White-Knight. Being nosy , can you tell me what dish and LNB set up that is. Looks Impressive.

Obviously mine is already setup using a RUSTY, Sky Dish (I still have the Sky running) It will need replacing pretty soon.

Readings on both Sky and Freesat are still very high.
Dish is an 85cm see through dish:

http://www.satellitesuperstore.com/c...nu.htm#clear85

(stand in the pic is there for illustration only)

LNB is a Titanium Quad (mine is 0.2db but is better 0.1db version now:

http://www.satellitesuperstore.com/q...m#titaniumquad


BTW I have no connection to this site other than having purchased there.
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Old 16-08-2009, 18:37
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Dish is an 85cm see through dish:

http://www.satellitesuperstore.com/c...nu.htm#clear85

(stand in the pic is there for illustration only)

LNB is a Titanium Quad (mine is 0.2db but is better 0.1db version now:

http://www.satellitesuperstore.com/q...m#titaniumquad


BTW I have no connection to this site other than having purchased there.
Thanks very much. I did a search and that site came up. I will now put my acquisition and installation plan into action.
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Old 16-08-2009, 21:55
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If you're getting a big dish like mine just remember that if it angles away from the wall by very much then you'll need a bracket with a larger than normal stand off. How much depends on the angle to 28.2E.

BTW I got the (expensive) clear dish to reduce visual impact for the neighbours with using a large dish. Can't say close up I notice much of a reduction but probably from further away...

The main reasons for getting a large dish were originally a plan to multi-arm it (shelved when I found out how useless non Freesat mode was on the HDR) and also for increased bad weather resistance in terms of robustness of signal).
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Old 20-08-2009, 08:43
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I too use the compression cable terminations from the same source. At the dish end I give one or two squirts of Darathene - Great stuff but very expensive bought for multiple purpose use - They say you can plop a wired electric motor into a bath of water once sprayed with this and it will continue to run. Wouldn't like to try it! Also saves the hassle of unpicking the self amalgamating tape ( if you ever have to disconnect - particularly at heights)
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Old 21-08-2009, 20:48
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Thats expensive got mine from this guy www.inlinedigital.co.uk but picked them up from his shop he charges £5.00 for the same tool and £6 for 100 snap and seal connectors including the O-rings in you photo for your dish you seem to be missing the O-rings so the water might get in.

I also had a bargain price foxsat and hdr from them i paid £199 for a brand new humax hdr.


Hi Les,

I use these plugs instead - Cablecon Professional - waterproof to 2 bar with no boots, grease or tape needed:

http://www.satellitesuperstore.com/s...orscompression

I'm not a professional fitter but thought these were well worth the extra.
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