Interesting item in Wednesday (21 Oct) Metro

I doubt it would come to that.

There would be a lot of very unhappy people who would make sure the name of Humax was mud for a very long time to come.

Even without that I doubt that Humax would abandon the product after all the work they've put into the update. (Assuming it hasn't all been done by a day release student ).

I for one hope the update comes before the end of the year.

If the BBC are causing a delay on the iPlayer, one would like to think that Humax could simply cripple the iPlayer interface in the 'update' and release the bug fixes NOW.

Seconded in principle.. however, if forced to wait - the delay may help if Humax are still tidying up and adding to the fixes - for example the record from buffer issue and recovering after a power cut.. I would like to see those changes included as I haven't much faith in another upgrade of firmware after the forthcoming one!

Patrick

Good point.

Whilst I can see possible valid logistical reasons that led to the foul up of having the bug fixes merged with the iplayer, if they are now just waiting for the BBC that implies that the bug fixes are tested and it should be possible to turn off the iplayer interface and release an update that just includes them.

I'm not holding my breath, though.

I personally believe from what I know that iPlayer and in turn Humax's update won't happen this year, but that is a personal opinion based upon what I shouldn't know!

The initial beta test for certain press/industry experts hasn't been closed out yet, so consumer beta tests might be in the last month of this year, but I have my doubts.

So everyone knows, this is BBC dragging their heals, not Freesat or the manufacturers. I cannot say more but just wanting you to be clear.

If thats the case then in my opnion Humax should release the update with the iplayer function disabled so at least current users can get the bug fixes and the enhancements that have been made and do work.

As stated before I don't care if iplayer is there or not as iIcan access it via many different means as I expect many others can and do - eg mobile, pc, console.

How about a poll to see if Iplayer is important to the users of this forum?

There was a poll way back and the vast majority wanted the bugs fixed before LAN functionality (of which iplayer is an aspect) was enabled.

Thats just ludicrous.

So does that mean Sagem and Goodmans can't release there brand new PVR models if they have iPlayer enabled firmware out of the box

No wonder they aren't happy

And to now seperate the two elements, update from upgrade, would take time. In essence, a retrograde step.

What I don't understand is that if some of you are experiencing major problems beyond the minor niggles that others suffer, why haven't you returned your device and bought a replacement. You never know, you may get lucky and get a more reliable one.

PJ

Obviously. That's why they are loath to do it.

Although simply disabling it should not be that big a task.


That is odd.

I presume that people who don't read forums would just take it back but those who do see others suffering from the same problems and assume it's a design fault.

There is no need to separate the two or re programme just disable the iplayer option however this is done (if in a menu remove it if a button disable it etc).

I am not suffering major issues, however there is no need to wait 12 months for bug fixes and coding errors.

I understand that doing an OTA upgrade may be expensive but there is NO reason for not realising patches/fixes via a website where there is no cost involved. As has been mentioned several times in the past this also allows for further "testing" before it arrives to everyone.

There is cost though in the test phase for a release regardless of the delivery method. Having said that though the topuptv guys opened up a fairly big beta invitation to the user base and that was on top of them increasing the number of stb's they produce. I can only put that down to them investing in automated stb testing tools which would allow them to complete the regression testing alot quicker and prove that the beta releases were not going to kill the boxes.

Rob

No change there, then!

But some people here don't seem to have problems, which suggests that there are both good boxes and bad ones out there.

Now, this to me suggests that some boxes have faulty or out of tollerance components and if I were to suffer, as much as some here suggest, I'd certainly take the option to replace it and hope I get lucky.

I agree. That's what I'd do but I suppose there are a few people who bought into all that 'update is just around the corner' nonsense.

Must admit having used the sky player on my 360 today if freesat stream the same way for bbci player alot off people will not be dissapointed picture quality isnt like watchin tv but its good enough.