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Old 25-08-2009, 23:53
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I personally think Danielle is a better player than Dan, even if she didnt actually win. She had the whole house eating out of her hands, and she only got nominated the once, which was just out of default when Lisa won the final HoH.

What impresses me the most about Danielle is how she hardly won anything the whole game, and yet still dictated pretty much every eviction. Everything she did was just perfection. I cant even remember her name ONCE being mentioned for nomination. All in all, she played the best social game in Big Brother history, and the money was rightfully hers (or Jason's)

The cruelest irony about the lack of jury is that even though she ended up in the finals with Lisa, that would have been the better option with a jury anyway. Jason would have probably won if they had a jury that year, and Lisa wouldnt have.

I think when you have one of the biggest gamerules changed in account of you, that shows your something special



Not that Dan wasnt awesome, because he was
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Old 26-08-2009, 00:01
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Oh and to be honest, I do agree that Jen wasnt likeable at the beginning. I liked her more and more as the show went on because she just took everything that Dick and his spawn threw at her, with a pinch of salt, and she never reacted. She showed great strength of character in the house, and did amazingly to last so long game-wise and emotionally without ever having a single ally or friend in there. (Except for Kail who to be fair had become useless by that point)

Oh and also, its always great when the main bad guys nemesis just keeps surviving and surviving against all the odds. When I watched BB8, I knew how everyone did in the series, I just wanted to experience it, and it was so funny when Jen won all those vetos. I found it hysterical when Jameka won the veto and used it on Jen.. it was just pure stupidity on Jameka's part, but still funny and a total slap in the Donato's face. Breaking the slop rules wasnt cool, but at the end of the day, she knew that she was going home by that point, why bother eating slop when your going home without the prize anyway.

I hope beyond hope Jen appears again. If her and Keesha arent on the next Allstars, I may say I'm not watching. (Though I wont follow through)
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Old 26-08-2009, 00:15
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I loved Jen.

I don't think it was just her treatment from Dick, it was just her uniqueness and likeability and the way she would never back down even though everyone treated her horribly. The only time it all got too much for her was right at the end of her time in the house and that was horrible to watch.
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Old 26-08-2009, 00:22
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I loved Jen.

I don't think it was just her treatment from Dick, it was just her uniqueness and likeability and the way she would never back down even though everyone treated her horribly. The only time it all got too much for her was right at the end of her time in the house and that was horrible to watch.
I agree. It was horrible to watch her finally break. It must be horrible to live in a house with 10 other people who hate you, half of whom who tell you at any chance they can get. She coped amazingly well for so long.
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Old 26-08-2009, 00:43
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Jen was amazing. I just rewatched Season 8 and am now amazed she kept her cool. Dick, well, was a dick.
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Old 26-08-2009, 00:55
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I agree. It was horrible to watch her finally break. It must be horrible to live in a house with 10 other people who hate you, half of whom who tell you at any chance they can get. She coped amazingly well for so long.
It is pathetic when you compare with the UK and the way that people like Kris or Lisa get cautioned for bullying Freddie after calling him a few names, not that I don't think Freddie had a hard-time but Jen basically had to cope for 7 weeks of mental and physical abuse with absolutely EVERYONE in the house treating her like crap and like she was a lesser human-being. Nobody once stuck up for her and basically most of them were almost as bad as Dick in the way they behaved and condoned his actions.

I remember the final meltdown between Dick and Jen at the end. With the whole house pretty much taking the opinion that Jen was the one in the wrong for eating an APPLE. And Eric and others shouting names at her as she got evicted and was walking out the door.

And she had to put up with a lot of stick from America too with the AP vote always going against her. She basically never got a break the whole time.

And when she came out she was still smiling and being a nice person which just showed amazing strength of character from her. I think she's great.
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Old 26-08-2009, 01:17
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Dick would have been out of BB UK quicker than he can say Julie Chen. Jen is my BB USA Idol.
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Old 26-08-2009, 01:20
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Big Brother 6 wasn't that great.


Most of the HoH competitions are dull.
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Old 26-08-2009, 01:32
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It is pathetic when you compare with the UK and the way that people like Kris or Lisa get cautioned for bullying Freddie after calling him a few names, not that I don't think Freddie had a hard-time but Jen basically had to cope for 7 weeks of mental and physical abuse with absolutely EVERYONE in the house treating her like crap and like she was a lesser human-being. Nobody once stuck up for her and basically most of them were almost as bad as Dick in the way they behaved and condoned his actions.

I remember the final meltdown between Dick and Jen at the end. With the whole house pretty much taking the opinion that Jen was the one in the wrong for eating an APPLE. And Eric and others shouting names at her as she got evicted and was walking out the door.

And she had to put up with a lot of stick from America too with the AP vote always going against her. She basically never got a break the whole time.

And when she came out she was still smiling and being a nice person which just showed amazing strength of character from her. I think she's great.
Exactly.. litterally nobody even gave her a chance. They all hated her from the very first week, and it didnt matter what she did from then on. As far as I could see, her only crime was being a little bit vain and concious of her appearence. Alert the authorities! The main reason why I hated BB8 so bad was because of the way they treated Jen. I gave up the episode Jen was evicted, and it took a very long time for me to go back and finish it off. It angered me how Dick came out of the whole ordeal looking popular and with America's backing. Like seriously wtf.

My dream scenario for Jen would be for her to go back into AS2 with Dick, and then win HoH and get his arse out of that house first. I wouldnt give a shit if she went the very next week, it would just be great to watch and great for Jen.
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Old 26-08-2009, 01:39
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Exactly.. litterally nobody even gave her a chance. They all hated her from the very first week, and it didnt matter what she did from then on. As far as I could see, her only crime was being a little bit vain and concious of her appearence. Alert the authorities! The main reason why I hated BB8 so bad was because of the way they treated Jen. I gave up the episode Jen was evicted, and it took a very long time for me to go back and finish it off. It angered me how Dick came out of the whole ordeal looking popular and with America's backing. Like seriously wtf.

My dream scenario for Jen would be for her to go back into AS2 with Dick, and then win HoH and get his arse out of that house first. I wouldnt give a shit if she went the very next week, it would just be great to watch and great for Jen.
Unfortunately she probably wouldn't go back with Dick and Dickelle.
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Old 26-08-2009, 01:42
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Unfortunately she probably wouldn't go back with Dick and Dickelle.
I know.. the thought of Jen not being on the second Allstars isnt worth thinking about! She is actually one of the only housemates from the last 4 seasons who actually deserve to be there. A lot of the others are simply the best since S7, but arent actually all that great.
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Old 26-08-2009, 11:19
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Unfortunately she probably wouldn't go back with Dick and Dickelle.
Good!

The Valley Doll was only ever concerned with her own reflection. Not the slightest capacity for empathy, no interest in anyone but herself and how she looked (literally and figuratively). What some saw as strength of character, I saw as plain old pig ignorance. I could get past this if she had game, but she was clueless there too. She took Season 8 as one long personal photo opportunity, look at me look at me......

No thanks!
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Old 26-08-2009, 17:00
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Jen rocked. I would rather Jen was asked back than both Dick and Daniele. Personally, now the dust has settled on Season 8 I think Jen actually has a lot more fans than Dick and Daniele combined. Her fan page on Survivor Sucks is 675 pages and still going, 10 times that of the Donatos. The show was clearly rigged for Dick, like when the Diary Room told Jen she should keep Dick over Dustin.....or even when the producers told them to keep Eric over Kail. Awful season, only Jen redeemed it.

Anyway as for unpopular opinions, I actually liked Season 9. The whole of the Top 9 bar Sharon could be asked back for All Stars and even the pre jury boots were pretty big characters. Much better than snoozefest Season 10
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Old 26-08-2009, 17:10
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Good!

The Valley Doll was only ever concerned with her own reflection. Not the slightest capacity for empathy, no interest in anyone but herself and how she looked (literally and figuratively). What some saw as strength of character, I saw as plain old pig ignorance. I could get past this if she had game, but she was clueless there too. She took Season 8 as one long personal photo opportunity, look at me look at me......

No thanks!
Jen had no game because nobody wanted to play with her. She was isolated so quickly that if anyone dared to be near her, they'd go on the block. Her and Kail were nominated 3 weeks in a row together.

If anything, I think the fact that she made it so far was a great achievement.
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Old 26-08-2009, 19:26
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Jen rocked. I would rather Jen was asked back than both Dick and Daniele. Personally, now the dust has settled on Season 8 I think Jen actually has a lot more fans than Dick and Daniele combined. Her fan page on Survivor Sucks is 675 pages and still going, 10 times that of the Donatos. The show was clearly rigged for Dick, like when the Diary Room told Jen she should keep Dick over Dustin.....or even when the producers told them to keep Eric over Kail. Awful season, only Jen redeemed it.

Anyway as for unpopular opinions, I actually liked Season 9. The whole of the Top 9 bar Sharon could be asked back for All Stars and even the pre jury boots were pretty big characters. Much better than snoozefest Season 10
I think it's true that Jen has even more fans now. Although SurvivorSucks HATES the Donatos so that may not be the best place to judge. Dick still has a lot of fans.

Jen originally said she wouldn't do All Stars if Dick was there again, but I'm sure she later retracted that comment.

As Kyle said, it'd be amazing if Jen won HoH and took out Dick the first week. Or if she was the swing vote that got him taken out Week 1.
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Old 26-08-2009, 19:30
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The Donatos pretty much won the show once Jen left. They had each other, plus America's player playing for them. Jessica did whatever Eric told her to, Jameka was inelligible for HOH and Zach was on board the Donato train. At that point their only threat was freaking Amber!

Needless to say I stopped watching at that point as it was all far too predictable.
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Old 26-08-2009, 19:50
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The Donatos pretty much won the show once Jen left. They had each other, plus America's player playing for them. Jessica did whatever Eric told her to, Jameka was inelligible for HOH and Zach was on board the Donato train. At that point their only threat was freaking Amber!

Needless to say I stopped watching at that point as it was all far too predictable.
I dont think Wamber even counts as a player
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Old 26-08-2009, 19:55
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I still think "God bless you God" is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
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Old 26-08-2009, 20:35
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I dont think Wamber even counts as a player
hehe. She was an idiot.
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Old 26-08-2009, 21:29
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I still think "God bless you God" is quite possibly the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
I forgot about her saying that.
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