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Old 23-08-2009, 14:40
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yes - no?

i didt see it not a massive fan but i do enjoy the auditions and it was always the best part of the show IMO

so i seen my friend from work last night and she said she didt like it.

my mother watched it this morning she said its wast that good.

i seen the responces on here

http://uk.tv.yahoo.com/blog/article/236598/

just look at the user comments from this yahoo review its fair to say 90% of the comments are not happy.

so its stuck like that for this year anyways since its all filmed .

will simon be panicing! i dont think so
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Old 23-08-2009, 14:46
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I haven't read one positive comment about it on here.

I think everyone is going to miss the silent giggling between the judges. If a bad act comes on the stage now and performs badly then we'll be stuck listening to the audience booing.....and then the judges won't bother containing their laughter and we need to wait until the backing music stops before the comments start and it's just ugh. At least in the audition room the judges can say "okay stop" if there's a horrible act.

I also hate the "zooming out" towards the audience whenever there's a good act. It kept happening with Danyl yesterday. What else? After every good performance we need to listen to cheers for ages.

The bad acts which USED to be funny just aren't funny anymore and the good acts which used to show of the VOICE alone now have a backing track, numerous camera shots and cheering from the crowd to help them.

It's too much like Britains Got Talent now. I was half expecting the judges to buzz a few of the acts yesterday.
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Old 23-08-2009, 14:47
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i quite enjoyed it
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Old 23-08-2009, 14:48
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I really enjoyed it, although I kept getting very confused yelling at Simon to press the buzzer.
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Old 23-08-2009, 14:49
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didn' enjoy last nights show - i don't like the live auditions at all.
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Old 23-08-2009, 14:49
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I haven't read one positive comment about it on here.

I think everyone is going to miss the silent giggling between the judges. If a bad act comes on the stage now and performs badly then we'll be stuck listening to the audience booing.....and then the judges won't bother containing their laughter and we need to wait until the backing music stops before the comments start and it's just ugh. At least in the audition room the judges can say "okay stop" if there's a horrible act.

I also hate the "zooming out" towards the audience whenever there's a good act. It kept happening with Danyl yesterday. What else? After every good performance we need to listen to cheers for ages.

The bad acts which USED to be funny just aren't funny anymore and the good acts which used to show of the VOICE alone now have a backing track, numerous camera shots and cheering from the crowd to help them.

It's too much like Britains Got Talent now. I was half expecting the judges to buzz a few of the acts yesterday.
Well I thought it was fantastic!! Maybe they thought it would weedle alot out who wouldn't dare sing in front of a large audience! If so that didn't work! I loved it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 23-08-2009, 15:23
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I really enjoyed last night's show, I'm not sure why the majority of the DS XF forum were unimpressed.

I thought the live audience added a whole new fresh, exciting dynamic to the show.

I recorded last night's show, went out for a meal. Watched it this morning and I was impressed

Bring on Week 2
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Old 23-08-2009, 15:38
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The only "problem" with the old format was that it had become a bit familiar, but a little bit of seasoning was all that was required.

But they went out and cooked up a whole new recipe!

I gave it 15minutes, it was just pointless. Like watching a public flogging with acrobats and donkey rides.

If you ever watched ".A.I. Artificial Intellegence" the Flesh Fair bit. TOO BIG! TOO MUCH!!!
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Old 23-08-2009, 16:04
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I think you have to watch it with an unbiased mind, like I did.

It was more dramatic and I personally prefered it to the old style.
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Old 23-08-2009, 16:08
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I think you have to watch it with an unbiased mind, like I did.

It was more dramatic and I personally prefered it to the old style.
Its not about watching it with an unbiased mind imo. I thought I'd love the new style, and was keen to see a change, but I too was dissapointed.

Its like auditions don't exist and they've ran straight to bootcamp.

I agree that its now too much like BGT, the live audiences make sense for BGT because the prize is basically to perform in front of an audience. The prize for XF is a recording contract, so the focus should be on vocals over performance imo.

Plus the awful performances aren't funny now, because it seems like bullying when the audience heckle.

I guess Simon doesn't know everything afterall.
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Old 23-08-2009, 16:12
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I thought it was great.

Prefer it now with the live audience.
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Old 23-08-2009, 16:13
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I really enjoyed last night's show, I'm not sure why the majority of the DS XF forum were unimpressed.

I thought the live audience added a whole new fresh, exciting dynamic to the show.

I recorded last night's show, went out for a meal. Watched it this morning and I was impressed

Bring on Week 2
Yeah, exactly how I feel about it.
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Old 23-08-2009, 16:13
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I think you have to watch it with an unbiased mind, like I did.

It was more dramatic and I personally prefered it to the old style.
What do you mean? I didn't watch it intending to hate it. I was skeptical but was willing to give it a chance and it just didn't work IMO. My mind isn't biased because I came to that opinion.
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Old 23-08-2009, 16:13
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Hated it. Was ghastly. Also....was quite simply the 'Simon and Cheryl Show' with Dannii and Louis as 'guest stars'.

Hated the new format.
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Old 23-08-2009, 16:15
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Well a supposed new audition format is just a way of disguising what is now a very tired affair.

Yes, I watched it. Yes, I could have used the off button. But morbid fascination has drawn me in yet again.

It'll still be the same old dross - a bad act will get put through to the lives to be cannon fodder (it happened with Chico, Daniel Evans, Mac Bros...),the best ones will get booted off at boot camp.

I think, to be fair, having auditioned for series two, that I am a bit disillusioned as I've seen how they manipulate things as have a lot of you who have been to the auditions yourselves. I'm just rather bored of it yet I still tune in and I really don't know why. Perhaps I'm mental.
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Old 23-08-2009, 16:17
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I am more surprised peeps still enjoy the audition stages, i mean after 5 years? Isnt the bad auditionees joke like wearing incredibly thin? gee

And the yes's keep on coming, i wonder if Dermot uttered those words last night! Lolz.
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Old 23-08-2009, 16:19
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Oh and another thing - surely now the Emma Chawner joke is over? It stopped being funny three years ago.
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Old 23-08-2009, 16:21
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I really enjoyed last night's show, I'm not sure why the majority of the DS XF forum were unimpressed.

I thought the live audience added a whole new fresh, exciting dynamic to the show.

I recorded last night's show, went out for a meal. Watched it this morning and I was impressed

Bring on Week 2
I think you have to watch it with an unbiased mind, like I did.

It was more dramatic and I personally prefered it to the old style.
I agree with these guys; I liked it. I thought the audience added a new dynamic to the show, and it also was a bit 'fresher' because we've seen the same thing for 5 years.

There were only a few things I didn't like

- the backing tracks. It allowed some singers to go all 'warbling' (like Leona does very effectively on 'Run', but I don't agree with it at the audition) because the pe-recorded chorus carried the words; it made it more 'show-man' and less 'singer'.

- the fact that we don't get the judges all sitting there trying not to laugh (although i think we saw a hint of it last night, it's more numbshock that hilarity). It's now more cringe-worthy when someone awful gets up to sing, rather than laughable.

- we won't see the judges sitting arguing with each other after someone has left (i'm thinking of series 2, sharon chucking the water over louis sort of thing, where an argument can get really heated and is great to watch)

- the editing was atrocious. I watch for the contestants, the judges, and dermot speaking to the competitors, not audience shots or shots of a guy's hand sliding volume controls. I would have liked to see more auditions last night.

Despite all that, I think it was a good show, certainly better than anything else on TV at the minute. I'm not going to not watch because of a few points i disagree with. If it had been the same as last year, I could see myself sitting there going 'this is so boring, I couldn't be bothered watching this bit, it's the same as it has been for 5 years'.

We still get delusional fools who can't carry a tune to save their lives. We still get some people who absolutely blow you away when they open their mouths. We still get to see the judges sitting in shock at what they're hearing. We still get people begging judges to say yes. We still get decisions that split the panel. The show delivers on more points than it fails.

EDIT - just to add, I know we're being manipulated by the producers, I know we're being fed 'stories'. I'm sure there are some great singers who will fail at bootcamp or the judges' houses. I'm sure there will be some people who get through to the finals who really don't belong there. I also allow yself to keep an open mind and enjoty the show for what it is - an entertainment show that occasonally finds a star (Leona), ones with potential to be great if the right team is put in place to support them (Alexandra because I haven't heard anything, Shayne who I still think has potential to be a lot bigger than he is now if he gets the right tracks), and some who are, at the time, considered to be the best of a bad bunch who don't really deliver (Leon, Steve). Series 4 was, IMHO, the weakest series to date. I still enjoyed it and tuned in every week.
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Old 23-08-2009, 16:22
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lmao, i was pissing myself at that emma girl. my neighbors made up that i sing in the street at 3 in the morning . :P
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Old 23-08-2009, 16:24
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I found the new format far more enjoyable.

I think the reason that many on here don't like it is because the emphasis on the novelty/bad performers has been lessened. It's now more on the money showing the better performers.

I never bothered to follow the auditons much previously because I found the heavy coverage of the poor performers very off putting and not very amusing at all.

I'm sure that there are a few that think that I don't have a sense of humour. Well, I do see the funny side of things, but certainly not the type of no hoper that the X-Factor used to rely on as entertainment.

I for one hope that the opening show is a sign of things to come.
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Old 23-08-2009, 16:26
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I found the new format far more enjoyable.

I think the reason that many on here don't like it is because the emphasis on the novelty/bad performers has been lessened. It's now more on the money showing the better performers.

I never bothered to follow the auditons much previously because I found the heavy coverage of the poor performers very off putting and not very amusing at all.

I'm sure that there are a few that think that I don't have a sense of humour. Well, I do see the funny side of things, but certainly not the type of no hoper that the X-Factor used to rely on as entertainment.

I for one hope that the opening show is a sign of things to come.
Bit in bold - this was one of the very few aspects I liked about the new format.
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Old 23-08-2009, 16:27
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I found the new format far more enjoyable.

I think the reason that many on here don't like it is because the emphasis on the novelty/bad performers has been lessened. It's now more on the money showing the better performers.

I never bothered to follow the auditons much previously because I found the heavy coverage of the poor performers very off putting and not very amusing at all.

I'm sure that there are a few that think that I don't have a sense of humour. Well, I do see the funny side of things, but certainly not the type of no hoper that the X-Factor used to rely on as entertainment.

I for one hope that the opening show is a sign of things to come.

Not sure I could fully agree there Gilly. The amount of airtime dedicated to the dreamgirls and Emma Chawner far outweighed that of some of the good singers.

Did anyone notice the quick excerpt of a blonde girl called, coincidentally, Laura White? She sounded great and we heard her for all of about 5 seconds.
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Old 23-08-2009, 16:48
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I did watch it late last night, and i have to say i did enjoy the show BUT i perfer it the way it was before.

I just feel like with a live audience at the very first auditions there is no sense of progression or a journey. I'm thinkin' what is the point of boot camp and the live shows if they have already performed with music and been on stage in front of thousands.

Also it just felt all a bit too much like Britain's Got Talent, quite a few times i expected them to press the buzzers espeacially Simon.

To be honest i think it works for BGT, but not really for The X Factor.
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Old 23-08-2009, 16:51
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I did watch it late last night, and i have to say i did enjoy the show BUT i perfer it the way it was before.

I just feel like with a live audience at the very first auditions there is no sense of progression or a journey. I'm thinkin' what is the point of boot camp and the live shows if they have already performed with music and been on stage in front of thousands.

Also it just felt all a bit too much like Britain's Got Talent, quite a few times i expected them to press the buzzers espeacially Simon.

To be honest i think it works for BGT, but not really for The X Factor.
Bit in bold. Very well said....I think this hits the spot for me. This is the point of why last night didn't hold the same charm.
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Old 23-08-2009, 16:54
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I watched it again this morning and ive changed my mind

I dont like the live audience element

Like others have said, we've lost the whole connection with the contestant and the progression element of the show. Its now just about who can make the audience cheer the most. Because is certainly seemed that was the formula used for danyll's performance.. he wasnt even good IMO.. and if anything the audience helped him.. if he was just there alone with the 4 judges then it'd be a different story.
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