Ratings Thread (Part 4)

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Andy23

28-08-2009

With it being 0-0 throughout and now extra time, I can see the average rating being low

It'll still be bringing in the male audience though which Corrie and Doc Martin or whatever stereotypically doesn't

GeorgeS

28-08-2009

Originally Posted by Andy23:
“With it being 0-0 throughout and now extra time, I can see the average rating being low

It'll still be bringing in the male audience though which Corrie and Doc Martin or whatever stereotypically doesn't”

Its not as if BBC1, 2 Ch4 or five are offering much of an alternative. The Super Cup should be good for around 3m in my opinion.

C14E

28-08-2009

Originally Posted by ZoeMcCallister:
“It has only just occurred to me, but surely it would have been better (if possible) for CH4 to have brought the BB finale forward to this Friday with much weaker opposition from ITV1, but maybe it would have been more hastle than it's worth.

I'm just thinking there could have been a BB night starting at 7.30pm on C4 then taking a break whilst EE was on, then returning trying to capture some of the Corrie audience.”

If they wanted it to finish this week they would have had to have the launch during the week of Britain's Got Talent.

iaindb

28-08-2009

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Its not as if BBC1, 2 Ch4 or five are offering much of an alternative. The Super Cup should be good for around 3m in my opinion.”

A quick look back at last year's figures reveals Man Utd v St Petersburg had 3.8m, again against no great opposition.

3.8m for Man Utd indicates what the Great British Public think of this non-event. UEFA think that if they call it the Super Cup people will think it is super, but nobody cares about it.

D.M.N.

28-08-2009

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“Its not as if BBC1, 2 Ch4 or five are offering much of an alternative. The Super Cup should be good for around 3m in my opinion.”

Doubt that very much. I'm guessing (and hope) BBC Two and Channel 4 get better figures than usual tonight. I suspect some may have just stuck with BBC One the whole evening regardless of programming.

Anyway the match has gone into extra time which has sent the 'News at Ten' into 'News at Ten-Thirty'.

square_eyes

28-08-2009

So where is the missing hour of Corrie from tonight going ?

Haven't ITV missed a trick by not scheduling an hour of Corrie before Wuthering Heights on Sunday ?

Brekkie

28-08-2009

Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“It wasn't actually planned to be like this, in the Beeb Programme Information a few weeks back they had two new sitcoms down for Thursday nights... Home Time is now down to start in two weeks, when The Funny Side Of... finishes, but The Persuasionists still hasn't shown up.”

That's typical BBC2 scheduling - they never line up their comedy line up to have the new series start and finish together.

I said that last year when the same thing happened - the date for the event is known months in advance, and although a risk a UK team could be involved, they could tentatively schedule and end on the Sunday instead or something if it turns out to be the case.

Originally Posted by C14E:
“If they wanted it to finish this week they would have had to have the launch during the week of Britain's Got Talent.”

They could just about get away with launching the Sunday after BGT finishes - or indeed during the live week (or probably better, before) if they keep out of their way and keep the shows after 10pm. (though based on this years ratings, More Talent on ITV2 would have beaten Big Brother!).

Originally Posted by square_eyes:
“So where is the missing hour of Corrie from tonight going ?”

Doesn't seem to be rescheduled, but although personally I think episodes should be dropped rather than rescheduled when displaced for one-off events, and it saves a bit of cash too, I can't see ITV doing that with Corrie.

I still think they'd have been better off keeping the Wednesday episode and adding in extra Sunday editions for any lost during the week. With all the football at the moment, although the Wednesday show would regularly be dropped they've pretty much could have Corrie every Sunday through to Christmas.

C14E

29-08-2009

Jay Leno has unveiled a star studded line-up for his first 4 nights. Jerry Seinfeld, Tom Cruise, Robin Williams, Miley Cyrus, Halle Berry and music from Rihanna, Kanye West, Jay-Z, Eric Clapton and Bruce Hornsby.

Elsewhere, Project Runway retained more than 80% of its premiere audience, Big Brother had another bumper Thursday, Hells Kitchen topped America's Got Talent among 18-49's and the first series of "Royal Pains" is officially the best performing debut season ever on the USA Network.
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In good news for Daily Mail readers and terrifying news for Guardian readers, Glenn Beck broke the 3 million viewer mark. Yes, he's the crazy chap who cries regularly on FOX News. Bill O'Reilly continually reminds us that he's number 1, well Glenn Beck isn't far behind and actually won in the target demo (25-54) last night. The bad news is that the very reason behind this surge is causing boycotts by some advertisers... he described Barack Obama as a "deep seated racist".

FOX News is thriving. After years of trying to defend Bush, they can now assume attack dog position with Obama. CNN is getting thrashed across the board. Even the famous Larry King gets half the ratings of his FOX News competitor (Hannity) in that slot.

Cent

29-08-2009

Glimpse of This Morning's new look...
http://www.itv.com/lifestyle/thismorning/

Cent

29-08-2009

Jonathan Ross is back and there is no sign of this mega-star that was appearing in September. It's still happening according to his twitter. He said tonight he's just waiting on the contract being signed. They may be on the first show as he said it was Ricky Gervais, Jamie Oliver, Mika + 1 more. Anyone think its Madonna?

Barry Manilow is booked for week 2 and Whitney Houston & Robbie Williams are booked sometime soon too.

Fudd

29-08-2009

The Bill is stabilising at last, possibly because of the end of The Mentalist. Mock the Week and New Tricks were both boosted too. The football, while not pulling in the ratings of The Mentalist for Five, still pulled in a good demographic for them in 16-34 males which'll please them all the same. You'd think Big Brother'd be building an audience approaching final week, but it seems low once again. Marcus' eviction should see a higher figure tonight, especially against weak opposition.

I can see maybe The Tudors winning the 9pm slot tonight. It's very weak all round really. Inspector George Gently may be boosted with no Coronation Street against it I suppose.

C14E

29-08-2009

Originally Posted by Cent:
“Jonathan Ross is back and there is no sign of this mega-star that was appearing in September. It's still happening according to his twitter. He said tonight he's just waiting on the contract being signed. They may be on the first show as he said it was Ricky Gervais, Jamie Oliver, Mika + 1 more. Anyone think its Madonna?

Barry Manilow is booked for week 2 and Whitney Houston & Robbie Williams are booked sometime soon too.”

I can't think who else it would be apart from her. It could have been Whitney but if she's doing another time then I guess he's not talking about her.

I'd have said Robbie would be a good guest for Piers Morgan to do a more detailed interview with and with an X Factor lead-in, it could do really well. The problem with Life Stories is that many celebrities don't want to delve that deep unless they are writing an autobiography! But Robbie may want to set some stories straight.

nick202

29-08-2009

Originally Posted by iaindb:
“But of course they're buying it from RTE rather than ITV.

The Radio Times website doesn't list Alright as a repeat but see what you think from the list of celebrities blooperers if it sounds familiar.

http://www.radiotimes.com/ListingsSe...s_fullpage.jsp

The Casualty on Sat 12th Sept is the first in a two-part story with part 2 unplaced later in the week. I thought ooh, it can't be Sunday, that's full-up with CountryFile, Antiques Roadshow and Waking The Dead. They must be showing it in a weekday slot. Wednesday? Thursday opposite The Bill?

But then I saw from the RT website that Antiques on Sept 6th is a repeat, not the first in a new series, so Casualty will be on on the Sunday as it always is with a 2-part series opener. Borriinngg!! (The scheduling, not the programme.)”

I'm wondering if Part 2 of Casualty will be on the Wednesday. I know that it was originally destined for Sunday, but I wonder if the BBC are playing their cards close to their chest to a) avoid ITV dropping in last night's missing Corrie episodes or another X Factor on Sunday night and b) to make use of the new, favourable Wednesday schedules and boost their midweek share.

rzt

29-08-2009

New BBC drama for 2010:

Quote:
“BBC Drama Production today announces the commissioning of a three-part drama serial for BBC One by acclaimed writer Stephen Butchard (House Of Saddam, Vincent).

Five Daughters (working title) is a sensitive portrait of events surrounding the discovery of five young women tragically murdered in Ipswich in 2006.

Made with the full co-operation of Suffolk Police and other agencies involved in the case, this factually-based drama will tell the story of the women's lives through the eyes of family members and friends, as well as following the inside story of the police investigation.

Writer Stephen Butchard says: "These five young women, precious to their families, had heart, ambition and potential; until an event or events, one wrong turn, one chance meeting, led them into the world of heroin and crack. Their dependency on these drugs facilitated their easy exploitation and led them to the street.

"Our hope is that this drama provides a glimpse of the real girls their families knew, and also leads to further debate on the impact of drugs and sex industries upon every town, every city in this country... and what action is, or isn't, being taken."

Kate Harwood, Controller, BBC Drama Series & Serials, adds: "Poignant, human and unflinching, Five Daughters sensitively tells the tragic story of the impact of five terrible murders on a small community, but most of all on five families."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pre.../29/five.shtml”

ITV director of drama is "satisfied" with The Bill's ratings:

Quote:
“ITV director of drama Laura Mackie has defended the decision to move long-running police show The Bill to 9pm, saying that the show’s new format will need time to bed in.

Speaking to Broadcast, Mackie said that she “would have liked to get more” viewers watching the show, but overall she was satisfied with how the programme was rating.
...

Mackie said: “The team on the programme is still making the transition from 8pm to 9pm. In an ideal world, we would have stopped production for six months and had the time to make all the changes necessary. To have made the leap without stopping production at all is a huge achievement by [producers] Talkback Thames.

“These changes always take time, but we are absolutely in this for the long game. The Bill had some very stiff competition from launch – none of us were expecting it would have to go against New Tricks. But it did dent [New Tricks’] ratings and we think over the autumn The Bill will move from strength to strength”.

Mackie added that the summer months always had a reduction in viewers, and the show was attracting a younger audience now.
http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...004996.article”

No original drama or comedy for Five in the immediate future:

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“Five channel controller Richard Woolfe has warned it will not be able to commission original drama or comedy until after the recession.

Woolfe said he has more money to spend at Five than at Sky 1, where he was director of programmes, but that until the economy improves he will not be spending it on UK drama - as he did at the pay-broadcaster - or on any comedy .

“When the recession ends and budgets are less challenging I’d love to do drama at Five,” he told delegates at the Edinburgh International TV Festival.

“I’ve got nothing against comedy. I loved comedy at Sky 1. We had The Simpsons [but] the thing about comedy is that getting comedy right is a really tricky and risky area. When budgets are challenged, you’ve got to go where you think you can get instant success.”
http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/b...004986.article”

Ant and Dec's new show is currently in rehearsal stage. It's based on them and two families and is set to air on ITV1 in Spring 2010.
http://twitter.com/MGEITF

Pizzatheaction

29-08-2009

Originally Posted by C14E:
“I'd have said Robbie would be a good guest for Piers Morgan to do a more detailed interview ...”

Don't bet against it. I've a feeling Robbie Williams is going to be popping up on every television show he can this autumn. He really needs his new album to sell well.

GeorgeS

29-08-2009

Originally Posted by rzt:
“No original drama or comedy for Five in the immediate future:”

I get the feeling that five are really screwed at the moment. They seem to have overspent on Neighbours, they booked a loss in the 1st half of the year and are predicting no improvement in the near future, they are letting more than 25% of staff go and they cannot afford any expensive home produced shows. Its back to the orginal mix of the 3F's for fives schedule I predict, with a few cheap factual & shiny floor shows thrown too. That won't satisfy RDF though, so the future for five looks quite bleak.

Pizzatheaction

29-08-2009

Taken from rzt's post:

Richard Woolfe: " I loved comedy at Sky 1. We had The Simpsons..."

I'm not convinced that constitutes "loving" comedy. Buying in an animation from a sister channel (the contract probably having been agreed long before Woolfe turned up at Sky One) and deciding where to schedule it, is not exactly a monumental commitment to comedy.

Cent

29-08-2009

Originally Posted by GeorgeS:
“I get the feeling that five are really screwed at the moment. They seem to have overspent on Neighbours, they booked a loss in the 1st half of the year and are predicting no improvement in the near future, they are letting more than 25% of staff go and they cannot afford any expensive home produced shows. Its back to the orginal mix of the 3F's for fives schedule I predict, with a few cheap factual & shiny floor shows thrown too. That won't satisfy RDF though, so the future for five looks quite bleak.”

They are only spending £125,000 an episode on Neighbours.

They show each episode three times on Five, four times on Fiver and through Demand Five.

I think that's fair enough. They would have had to have spent at least double that on Family Affairs and it could barely manage 1m across its two showings on Five.

I'm not convinced they are in a bad state at all. They could do with more money, but I think the programming has moved up a gear and they are growing their share, which no other channel is doing.

mlt11

29-08-2009

Five has cut its programme budget by 25% (more than any other broadcaster):

http://www.campaignlive.co.uk/news/9...t-25-per-cent/

rzt

29-08-2009

Wallace and Gromit are returning for a new show for BBC1:

Quote:
“Animated characters Wallace and Gromit are to present a new BBC1 programme about inventions.

The popular duo will introduce documentary footage of scientific breakthroughs, drawing on Wallace’s own characterisation as an absent-minded inventor in films such as A Grand Day Out and The Wrong Trousers.

BBC1 controller Jay Hunt said she commissioned the show as a “collaboration” with Wallace and Gromit producer Aardman Animations, in a bid to find more accessible routes into heavyweight factual topics.

“We’ve got to be creative about how we take difficult subjects and bring them to a mass-market audience. It’s got to be done in a way that doesn’t say, ‘Sit up straight and eat your bran and here’s a bit about the Nazi’s,” she said.

Hunt would not reveal any further details about the new show, which has been commissioned but is yet to have the paperwork signed.

She also called for more mainstream history shows, to sit alongside the channel’s successful genealogy series Who Do You Think You Are?.
http://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/news/c...005000.article”

Meanwhile, another duo are reunited for a new programme for Five:

Quote:
“Presenters Zoe Ball and Jamie Theakston are to be reunited for the first time in nearly 10 years for a new Channel Five quizshow that aims to find Britain's brightest person.

The pair, who previously fronted BBC1 Saturday morning children's show Live and Kicking and Channel 4's entertainment format The Priory, will host the eight-part Britain's Best Brain, which has been co-funded by the videogame firm Nintendo.

Five's new series, which is a Tiger Aspect/GroupM Entertainment production, puts contestants through a series of mental and physical challenges designed to test five areas of the brain and five brain functions – memory, co-ordination, calculations, recognition and risk.

Contestants' performance on the individual tasks generates a brain score, with the top scorers of the series returning for the grand final, where one will be crowned Britain's Best Brain.

The Five controller, Richard Woolfe, said: "I'm delighted that Zoe and Jamie are back together. They are brilliant broadcasters and their chemistry is extraordinary. The fun and challenging format of Britain's Best Brain is the perfect project for these sparky and lovable presenters."
...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009...kston-nintendo”

iaindb

29-08-2009

I'd be delighted to welcome more mainstream history shows onto BBC1, particularly if they can match the quality of the brilliant Who Do You Think...

sn_22

29-08-2009

Clearly very difficult times for Five. Sad to see that they're retreating from original drama or comedy in favour of this lightweight factual / light entertainment approach. Some of the concepts sound very derivative and unoriginal. Understandable, I guess - and as Woolfe commented, they need instant and relatively cheap success and this is the best way to get it. The same approach is being taken by ITV2 it seems with their emphasis on spin-offs and celebrity-led stuff.

E4 and Sky1 seem to be the only commercial digital networks really taking a risk on expensive drama and comedy. I was interested to read some of the opinions expressed at the Stuart Murphy session in Edinburgh about how E4 was now percieved as "where its at" as far as digital channels are concerned. I'd tend to agree with that assumption and think they have a very strong model based on a clearly defined identity and target audience as well as the right combination of cheap fillers and standout hit series.

Couple of interesting commissions for BBC One that rzt posted. Five Daughters seems quite a brave peice you'd expect to find on Two. The W&G concept sounds interesting and innovative. If its got Gromit in it, I'll be tuned in.

Nice to see some commitment to history too, which has been largely missing on the flagship channel of late. Maybe Jay Hunt isn't quite so terrible after all...

daznov11

29-08-2009

Originally Posted by C14E:
“Jay Leno has unveiled a star studded line-up for his first 4 nights. Jerry Seinfeld, Tom Cruise, Robin Williams, Miley Cyrus, Halle Berry and music from Rihanna, Kanye West, Jay-Z, Eric Clapton and Bruce Hornsby.

Elsewhere, Project Runway retained more than 80% of its premiere audience, Big Brother had another bumper Thursday, Hells Kitchen topped America's Got Talent among 18-49's and the first series of "Royal Pains" is officially the best performing debut season ever on the USA Network.
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In good news for Daily Mail readers and terrifying news for Guardian readers, Glenn Beck broke the 3 million viewer mark. Yes, he's the crazy chap who cries regularly on FOX News. Bill O'Reilly continually reminds us that he's number 1, well Glenn Beck isn't far behind and actually won in the target demo (25-54) last night. The bad news is that the very reason behind this surge is causing boycotts by some advertisers... he described Barack Obama as a "deep seated racist".

FOX News is thriving. After years of trying to defend Bush, they can now assume attack dog position with Obama. CNN is getting thrashed across the board. Even the famous Larry King gets half the ratings of his FOX News competitor (Hannity) in that slot.”

Did Fox News do as well when Bush was in Power? In your opinion does it make any difference to the ratings

Brekkie

29-08-2009

Originally Posted by sn_22:
“Clearly very difficult times for Five. Sad to see that they're retreating from original drama or comedy in favour of this lightweight factual / light entertainment approach...

E4 and Sky1 seem to be the only commercial digital networks really taking a risk on expensive drama and comedy.”

To be fair Five have hardly had any original drama or comedy in ten years to retreat from, so it won't be a loss. Wouldn't be a bad idea though for them to get talking to Sky about reshowing some of their drama output.

ITV2 have Trinity this autumn, so it'll be interesting to see how that performs - probably relatively better than anything new ITV1 has.

E4, and C4 infact, are both in need of a drama series at the heart of the autumn schedules, and hopefully the axing of Big Brother should enable that - though I fear C4 may waste too much cash on little watched single films when what they really need to do is throw it at a couple of new series, hoping one sticks.

craig-maclellan

29-08-2009

The Five Daughters from BBC One looks really intersting, espeically since they have cooperation from the families and the police.

I just saw an ad for Eastenders which I haven't watched in years. Is Daniella Westbrook coming back to the show as Sam Mithcell? What happened to Kimedcalf? And Westbrook looks dreadful in the ads!!!

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