I dont think ITV need O'Grady that much. He is too much trouble & no doubt will have another hissy fit and go off running to the papers again sooner or later

The department a show comes from doesn't make that much difference, to be honest - The Big Breakfast for its first few years used to be the responsibility of Channel Four's Head of Sport as they couldn't find another department to put it in. So although The One Show is the responsibility of the Head of Daytime, it's more likely to be because it uses the resources of factual, light entertainment, news, features and most other departments so no one department can take responsibility.

Its the daytime controller responsible for comissioning the show which is a bit different

Tuesday 13th October Overnights
BBC One
13:45- Doctors: 1.44m (22.4%)
19:30- EastEnders: 8.54m (39.9%)
20:00- Holby City: 5.75m (25%)
21:00- Around The World In 80 Days: 4.18m (18.9%)

BBC Two
20:15- MasterChef: The Professionals: 2.99m (12.8%)
21:00- Horizon: 1.83m (8.3%)

ITV1
19:00- Emmerdale: 6.7m (33.3%)
20:00- Who Wants To Be A Millionaire?: 3.21m (13.9%)
21:00- Joan Does Glamour: 2.52m (11.4%)

Channel 4
18:30- Hollyoaks: 1.5m (7.8%) , +1: 65k (0.3%)
20:00- How To Look Good Naked: 2m (8.7%)
21:00- The Force: 2.04m (9.8%)
22:45- Derren Brown: Trick of the Mind: 690,000 [inc. +1]

Five
17:30- Neighbours: 1.44m (10.4%)
18:00- Home and Away: 1.07m (6.2%)
20:00- Nature Shock: 1.54m (9.1%)
21:00- CSI: Miami: 1.77m (7.7%)

BBC Three
22:00- EastEnders: 741k (4.3%)

E4
19:00- Hollyoaks: 404k (2.2%)
21:00- Ugly Betty: 559,000 [inc. +1]
22:00- James Brown's Supermodel Salon: 230,000 [inc. +1]

Film4 [inc. +1]
19:00- Barefoot in the Park: 91,000
21:00- Mean Machine: 340,000

More4 [inc. +1]
22:00- True Stories: 115,000

Fiver
18:30- Home and Away: 626k (3.5%)
19:00- Neighbours: 195k (1%)

Sky1
20:00- Stargate Universe: 765k (3.6%)

Primetime Shares
BBC One: 23.0%
ITV1: 14.8%
BBC Two: 8.4%
Channel 4: 7.7% (+1: 0.7%)
Five: 7.6%

All Day Shares
BBC One: 21.9%
ITV1: 16.2%
Channel 4 [inc. +1]: 7.9%
BBC Two: 7.1%
Five: 6.5%

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Joan Does Glamour flopped like how most of us expected. Good rating for Holby City and Around The World In 80 Days did quite well. Five did better than usual at 8pm, but that CSI Miami rating looks quite low. Not sure why it's down from the usual 2-3m.

CSI: Miami has been shedding a lot of viewers. I guess people have fallen out of love with it.

Maybe it jumped the shark.

Australian Ratings: Tuesday 13th October

Seven
18:00 Seven News 1.46m
18:30 Today Tonight 1.43m
19:00 Home and Away 1.19m
19:30 RSPCA Animal Rescue 1.40m
20:00 Last Chance Surgery 1.40m
20:30 Packed to the Rafters 1.84m
*top rated in total viewers, 16-39, 18-49 & 25-54.
21:30 All Saints 1.18m

Nine
18:00 Nine News 1.12m
18:30 A Current Affair 1.10m
19:00 Two and a Half Men (R) 1.23m
19:30 20 to 1: Hollywood's Biggest Scandals 1.20m
20:30 Movie Premiere: Spider-Man 3 0.60m
*only the 25th most watched programme of the day.

Ten
18:00 The Simpsons (R) 0.66m
18:30 Neighbours 0.66m
19:00 The 7pm Project 0.73m
19:30 The All New Simpsons 0.93m
20:00 The Simpsons (R) 0.98m
20:30 NCIS 1.48m
21:30 Lie to Me 1.17m

Seven win primetime with a 33.3% share.

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NCIS seems to be holding up very well indeed against the powerhouse that is Rafters.

Nine were crushed with poor figures for a big movie premiere.

The Force did well to average 2m across nearly two hours considering C4 couldn't hit 1m across one on Monday excluding 6-7pm.

Looks like DS's figures for Five are wrong. They were actually:

20:00- Nature Shock: 1.7m (8%)
21:00- CSI Miami: 2.6m (11.8%)
22:00- CSI NY: 1.5m (9.1%)
23:00- CSI: 800,000 (9.7%)

So CSI: Miami actually rated quite well, higher than ITV1.

A few more ratings from yesterday:

22:00- Later with Jules Holland (BBC2): 730,000 (3.9%)
22:35- Dishing the Dirt (ITV1): 1.6m


MG says that Paul O'Grady's show is likely to be 8-12 episodes long: http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2009...y-itv-chatshow

£4m per year for that does seem a lot, even including programme budget. That must be an over-exaggerated figure. I can't imagine ITV paying him that much.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/a1819...on-seance.html

You won't find a grubbier attempt to win some ratings all year.

I did think something was a bit wrong with CSI MIAMI's ratings!!

sounds quite a laugh actually. Who would it offend? The gullible?

Hey it's Sky1 what do you expect..but I was surprised it wasn't Living TV that didn't come up with this idea personally...I just hope Derek doesn't get possessed during the seance and start moonwalking all over the place...Oooowww...shamone!!

It's all a load of hogwash...it will be more fun watching Derek looking a right ****...somehow I don't think this will stop at Micheal Jackson..Steven Gately anyone..

Eek. Even Living wouldn't stoop that low.

Sky1's programme ideas continue to scrape the barrel. Hello Goodbye, Noel's HQ, Don't Forget The Lyrics, Nothing But The Truth. And now this latest turd. The list of second-rate programming they serve up to their customers is endless.

Glad I'm not paying to watch tripe like that

And to think Sky 1 recently claimed it was trying to establish itself as the UK HBO!

It really does seem to be lacking in direction. It has some of the very best US imports which would be a great base from which to build an image of quality drama. And its own attempts at drama have been well received. But then it goes off making nonsense dance rip-offs and daytime shows. They need to make their mind up about what they want to be.

Most watched programmes of the week
1 - 13.35m - The X Factor (Sun, ITV1)
2 - 10.02m - Coronation Street (Mon 19:32, ITV1)
3 - 9.73m - EastEnders (Mon, BBC1)
4 - 9.06m - Strictly Come Dancing (Sat, BBC1)
5 - 8.71m - Doc Martin (Sun, ITV1)
6 - 7.95m - Emmerdale (Thu 20:00, ITV1)
7 - 7.09m - Waking The Dead (Mon, BBC1)
8 - 6.50m - Benidorm (Fri, ITV1)
9 - 6.37m - Casualty (Sat, BBC1)
10- 6.09m - Merlin (Sat, BBC1)

5 programmes each for BBC1 and ITV1. The X Factor and Strictly both get their highest ratings so far this year.

Alternative Chart (BBC2, C4, Five)
1 - 4.10m - FlashForward (Mon, Five)
2 - 3.31m - MasterChef The Professionals (Thu 20:46, BBC2)
3 - 3.18m - University Challenge (Mon, BBC2)
4 - 2.95m - Autumnwatch (Fri, BBC2)
5 - 2.94m - Match of the Day 2 (Sun, BBC2)
6 - 2.80m - Cutting Edge: Captive for 18 Years (Thu, C4)
7 - 2.79m - Film: Monsters, Inc (Sun, Five)
8 - 2.71m - CSI Miami (Tue, Five)
9 - 2.68m - The Choir: Boys Don't Sing Revisited (Tue, BBC2)
10- 2.62m - The Secret Millionaire (Wed, C4)

Excellent timeshift of nearly 1m for FlashForward makes it the most watched programme of the week among the 'alternatives'. Good week for BBC2 with 5 entries.

Most watched programmes of 2009 so far
01 - 18.29m - BRITAIN’S GOT TALENT (30/05/09) - ITV1
02 - 13.35m - THE X FACTOR (04/10/09) - ITV1
03 - 11.46m - CORONATION STREET (02/02/09) - ITV1
04 - 11.31m - DANCING ON ICE (22/03/09) - ITV1
05 - 11.05m - EASTENDERS (02/02/09) - BBC1
06 - 9.91m - JONATHAN CREEK (01/01/09) - BBC1
07 - 9.84m - COMIC RELIEF (13/03/09) - BBC1
08 - 9.76m - THE APPRENTICE (03/06/09) - BBC1
09 - 9.54m - DOCTOR WHO (11/04/09) - BBC1
10 - 9.26m - WHITECHAPEL (02/02/09) - ITV1

11 - 9.20m - KILIMANJARO: THE BIG RED NOSE CLIMB (12/03/09) - BBC1
12 - 9.06m - STRICTLY COME DANCING (03/10/09) - BBC1
13 - 8.78m - NEW TRICKS (16/07/09) - BBC1
14 - 8.71m - DOC Martin (04/10/09) - ITV1
15 - 8.54m - WIMBLEDON 2009: Murray v Wawrinka (29/06/09) - BBC1
16 - 8.54m - EMMERDALE (02/02/09) - ITV1
17 - 8.53m - COMIC RELIEF DOES THE APPRENTICE (12/03/09) - BBC1
18 - 8.52m - WILD AT HEART (08/03/09) - ITV1
19 - 8.44m - LET’S DANCE FOR COMIC RELIEF (07/03/09) - BBC1
20 - 8.31m - UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE: Barcelona v Man Utd (27/05/09) - ITV1

Notes: Duplicates removed. Accurate EastEnders rating used for its highest episode.

2009 Talent Show Averages
13.4m .... Britain's Got Talent (+3.2m year on year)
11.5m* .. The X Factor (+1.6m from same stage last year)
8.9m ...... Dancing on Ice (level year on year)
8.6m*..... Strictly Come Dancing (-0.2m from same stage last year)

* series currently airing. Averages likely to rise.

Source: www.barb.co.uk

I agree that they have some of the best US imports. However, if Sky1 did not exist, they would almost certainly be shown elsewhere, possibly FTA in some cases. So if Sky1 cannot serve up meaningful homegrown programming of its own, it isn't really serving much of a purpose to the viewer.

Apart from 1 Ross Kemp series a year and 1 made for TV movie each Easter, I'm struggling to think of any other worthwhile contributions Sky1 has made to British television recently. It really hasn't achieved much at all for a channel that has been running for so many years and is supposedly Sky Digital's flagship channel, and has certainly never produced anything of HBO calibre.

I quite agree - they seem to lurch from the sublime to the ridiculous. "British HBO" one minute - celebrity junk ITV2 wouldn't touch with a bargepole the next. Surely creating premium content to attract subscribers to their platform is a better model for them. Looking at their yearly budget (£130m) in comparison to others such as ITV2, E4, or BBC Three - it's difficult to imagine that they make a profit out of advertising - so it must be a loss leader anyway.

Nothing much to write home about on Tuesday night once again. Joan does Glamour flopped (we could have told them that before they commissioned it ) and Around the World did OK - I was expecting the 4m region similar to ITV's travelogues. They'll be hoping it doesn't drop any more though.

This could be wildly wrong but...

An article in Media Guardian in May said that the BGT semi-finals were taking about £1.86m an hour (about £78,000 per 30 second spot).

The X Factor is pretty close to the semi-final ratings. BGT had a semi-final average of 12.7m, X Factor (over 3 hours) averaged 11.9m. So say £70,000 for a 30 second spot. That's £1.68m an hour or £5.04m for the 3 hours.

Carphone Warehouse pays £7m a year (about £180k an hour) so this weekend would be worth about £540,000 of that. Which takes the total to about £5.6m before other revenues from Xtra Factor, voting, competitions and online.

If the weekend cost £1.5m, then ITV could have been making a profit of about £4m or more (before promotion and admin costs). As I said, this could be wrong, because that seems massive.

I wouldn't be surprised. This sort of 'event TV' is where ITV seem to make all their profits these days. The rest of the schedule is mostly damage limitation.

I suppose you would probably have to factor in the contract costs of Cowell, Cole. etc. which I don't think would be included in the production costs as they're ITV "golden handcuffs" deals. But still, its a huge profit.

Last season of X Factor cost £20m - this season will cost more, but the ROI is still going to be huge

Around the World in 80 Days did well as did The Force although police docs do seem to perform well, CSI: Miami was up and Nature Shock did very well and is a proven strand for Five and Joan Does Glamour unsurprisenly flopped.

FlashForward timeshifted well although I wonder if it is in the top five highest rated show for Five this year or just outside it.

I'm pretty sure the 'cost per episode' will include money spent on talent, even those in golden handcuff deals.

These deals that are worth "£20m" or "£30m" are actually estimates. The contract simply says something like they will be paid X per episode of X show. If they are saying £20m for example, it would be a rough estimate based on how many episodes there were likely to be.

I like 'The One Show', but this?


Wasn't there a rumour a few months ago about ITV trying to make Friday's @ 9pm into an entertainment block?

Only standout rating for me last night was Holby City which seems a few hundred thousand up on usual. Joan Does Glamour flopped - but really, it was expected.


...I can't find a top 20 for about the same point last year, but here is what it looked like on 3rd November:

Top 20 Officials- Most watched programmes of 2008
01 - 13.88m - BRITAIN’S GOT TALENT FINAL RESULT (31/05/08) - ITV1
02 - 13.02m - CORONATION STREET (18/01/08) - ITV1
03 - 12.08m - DANCING ON ICE (16/03/08) - ITV1
04 - 11.86m - BRITAIN’S GOT TALENT (30/05/08) - ITV1
05 - 11.73m - EASTENDERS (24/03/08) - BBC1
06 - 11.09m - THE X FACTOR (11/10/08) - ITV1
07 - 10.57m - DOCTOR WHO (05/07/08) - BBC1
08 - 10.05m - UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE: Man Utd v Chelsea (21/05/08) - ITV1
09 - 9.70m - STRICTLY COME DANCING (26/10/08) BBC1 ***overnight
10 - 9.36m - NEW TRICKS (18/08/08) - BBC1
11 - 9.29m - THE APPRENTICE (11/06/08) - BBC1
12 - 9.18m - MATCH OF THE DAY LIVE: England v Switzerland (06/02/08) - BBC1
13 - 9.13m - THE X FACTOR RESULTS (18/10/08) - ITV1
14 - 8.91m - DANCING ON ICE - THE SKATE OFF (09/03/08) - ITV1
15 - 8.90m - ANTIQUES ROADSHOW (02/11/08) - BBC1 ***overnight
16 - 8.90m - LEWIS (24/02/08) - ITV1
17 - 8.85m - EMMERDALE (02/01/08) - ITV1
18 - 8.84m - EURO 2008: MATCH OF THE DAY LIVE: Germany v Spain (29/06/08) - BBC1
19 - 8.80m - F1: BRAZIL GRAND PRIX (02/11/08) - ITV1 *** overnight
20 - 8.80m - WIMBLEDON 2008 (30/06/08) - BBC1

On first glance, it looks like it is down on this time last year, although its hard to tell.

ITV has confirmed their Week 44 (24th-30th October) schedule on the Press site.

The X Factor Results are back at 8pm, so the 7:45pm start for this Sunday must be just a one off. I'm glad about that.

Only other noteable thing is that there's an extra episode of Coronation Street on Wednesday 28th at 7:30pm, followed by a new episode of Midsomer Murders.


Yeah, it's at number 4:

4.55m - CSI: Crime Scene Investigation
4.22m - CSI Miami
4.21m - The Mentalist
4.10m - FlashForward