ITV need to think about creating an hour at 8pm on Tuesday's that can actually compete.

I think it's the time to go high brow. ITV will sometimes even have to compete with Holby's largely female audience, BBC2 stuff like Springwatch which'll get older people watching and Champions League football on Sky which will take a lot of male audience.

So, could the way to go be high-brow current affairs & factual?

7:00pm Emmerdale
7:30pm House Guest
8:00pm Tonight
8:30pm Tourist Trail
Edited to make a 30 minute series
9:00pm Survival with Ray Mears
10:00pm News at Ten
10:15pm Anglia News & Weather
10:30pm Moving Wallpaper

I think ITV could cope OK with a schedule like this on a Tuesday. There's a big hole on a Tuesday at 10:30 for new programming, I feel. I remember Piers Morgan on Sandbanks premiering there with over 3 million viewers.

I think ITV should start invest their more risque comedies there, as well as ITV2. Perhaps by repeating Moving Wallpaper there, it could give the channel a good idea what the viewers think of it, despite the series not being greatly popular. I mean, Moving Wallpaper was a quality comedy I feel, quite a lot like The Day Today really.

It would also give viewers a flavour of what ITV can start offering at 10:30pm.

I'd like to see ITV invest also in an 11pm-12am chat show format.

ITV have been without a chat show for a long time, and this sort of thing is great in America.

Dara O'Briain is the man underworked and underrated in television. He is great on Mock the Week, and should be considered for a late night chat show that runs from Monday to Thursday. Maybe Happy Hour could be considered as well.

It takes ITV gracefully to midnight, and it could start generating some more revenue, especially if ad-rules are relaxed.

Friday Night with Jonathan Ross as it's years past its sell-by date?

Piers Morgan's Life Stories because its shit?

Ant & Dec to sign new two and a half year £15m exclusive deal with ITV (taking a £5m pay cut).

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz...-deal-ITV.html

where is the "dollar sign eye rolling " smiley when you need it !! - although it is £5 million less than last time!!

The Festival was on 8th Nov last year and TXF experiences a small drop in both its overnights (from 8.48m to 8.32m) and its officials (9.72m to 9.46m) despite being on 15 minutes earlier (moving from 9.55 to 9.40).

The Festival took 5.59m in the overnights slightly down on the 5.64m that Casualty had in the same slot the previous week (although Casualty, unlike the Festival, had no clash with TXF). the Festival though only gained 0.05m in the offiicals, whereas Casualty gained 0.66m.

Casualty's quite good at gaining in the officials. For the Oct 11th episode, the first one to clash with TXF, it added 0.91m, giving it a total of 5.52m. So even though it's not the powerhouse it was once, you can see why the BBC remain committed to it. It's well ahead of The Bill even allowing for STV opt-out. Some people on this thread say The Bill suffers because it's wrongly scheduled after the watershed but Casualty seems to cope okay with a post-watershed slot.

I think that would be for each of them, certainly the last one was reported as £20m each.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2007...V.broadcasting

Not bad going. I suspect the slight upturn in ratings for I'm A Celebrity last year plus the huge success of Britain's Got Talent has gone some way to making up for the fact that Takeaway lost steam recently and the general decline in cash at ITV.

Plus, their new show is produced solely by Gallowgate, whereas Takeaway was co-produced with ITVS, so that's another boost for them. Although I think ITV did axe Beat The Star earlier this year.

Tbh, they seem underpaid when you compare what they do for ITV against the money blown on sports rights!

Haven't all Gallowgate shows been on ITV1? With the exception of the first series of the All Star Cup which was on Sky1 and Name that Tune on Five. As Gallowgate isn't restricted to producing shows for other broadcasters, I imagine that they will trying to get commission from other broadcasters aside from ITV to make more money.

Isn't Cowell taken a paycut when he renews his ITV deal? TBH with the money he makes from American Idol and the various deals for Got Talent, a cut from ITV would be a drop in the ocean.

I had no idea that Ant & Dec's company was called Gallowgate, I used to live in that part of the city!

The time off the screen will do them well, give the public time to be happy to see them again and a chance for ITV to dominate Saturday all year around

Yep, they also did Duel and Pokerface and made a pilot with Amanda Holden called The Wish List though it wasn't picked up for a series. Name That Tune seems to be the first big series for another broadcaster and they'll probably be wanting to do more.

I think with ITV commissioning this new gameshow, they were as well staying with them exclusively. They wouldn't really have the time to go and do a show with BBC1. BGT in January/Febaurary then this show in February/March with BGT live shows in May. No point doing anything in the summer than I'm A Celebrity in November/December.


Not sure, he said he'd be willing to take a cut so long as the budgets went up but various other reports have said he'll be getting more or the same. I think ITV may be having to wait to negotiate his contract until he sorts out X Factor USA and American Idol. He also likes to launch shows in the UK, so I wouldn't be surprised if ITV have to commission a certain number of formats from Syco over the next few years (FOX have a similar situation with 19/Fremantle and American Idol).

Seeing as ITV have the top 2 entertainment names (or 3, I suppose!) it might be time to try and get some stars (like Robbie Coltrane) tied in to do some more shows or maybe a returning series and try and build a similar stable and recognition in drama as they have in entertainment.

Not surprised to read about Ant and Dec's new ITV deal.

There weren't any real alternatives for them. (Channel) Five couldn't afford to pay them the wages they're accustomed to, BSkyB would have been too low profile, and they flopped when they did Saturday nights on BBC One, so I doubt there was very much interest from the Beeb.

Perhaps ITV missed an opportunity to screw their wages a bit lower.

Have ITV worked out how Cowell launching X-Factor in the US with Walsh and Cole affect scheduling for X-Factor? Wonder if it's part of his deal for ITV to take any royalties

I'm sure BBC1 would have taken them now. Maybe not golden handcuffs, but they could have done a series there. If Sky had paid, I think they might have done something there as well. But they wouldn't go full time because they do need to keep their profile up with some big hits. However, there simply isn't any time for them now.

Cowell is the one with nowhere else to go as the BBC could never poach him and his shows thrive on being as mainstream as possible, but he'll be negotiating on the basis of "is this really worth my while?"

I'm not convinced either of them will go. Cheryl couldn't keep up her Girls Aloud/ solo career and Louis still has acts to manage. Plus, they need bigger names than them if Cowell isn't going to be on it. Even America's Got Talent had Sharon O and David Hasselhoff alongside Piers Morgan! He might get away with 1 of them but having 2 of them would be crazy. NBC could really use it just now! Although what they really need are some dramas. Unscripted is fine with football, The Biggest Loser and America's Got Talent.

ITV won't get any of the royalties. They don't own any of the format.

I thought Cowell had agreed to do X-Factor?

I think Louis could find time in the schedule for this and well, Cheryl would be insane to turn it down

I thought ITV held some rights? Is it all with Syco?

Surely ITV are losing out? They can't possibly recoup Cowell's fee the advertising revenue, even with 50% of the audience that could be made from selling off Cowell's shows

Nothing has been announced yet.


66% Syco, 33% 19 Entertainment (until May 2010, when it becomes 100% Syco).

Fremantle/Talkback Thames own a share in each series they produce but not in the overall copyright.


Cowell is £7m a year. The semi-final/final week of BGT alone took £20m in ad revenue so they'll be doing just fine! He and A&D represent better value for money than the football anyway!

And there's no way he'd give up a share in any of his shows. In fact, I think for ITV to do it would breach certain rules about dealing with indie producers.

I would then assume that peak X-Factor November/early Dec Christmas ads making a rather embarassing amount of cash for ITV then?

I'm not convinced X Factor is going to America at all. I think its all just Simon's tactics to get more money out of Fox.

Like how everytime his ITV contract is up a story appears in the paper saying he's not sure he'll be back to do X Factor again, because the work schedule is so hectic, so ITV pay more to keep him.

An interesting day for Spooks then, has it ever been on a Wednesday before ?

The opening episode will be up against Lyon v Liverpool in the Champions League, and it will face two further ties during it's run.

In other news, Peter Kay to host Royal Variety Performance :

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...ance-show.html

Wednesday 21st October 2009
BBC One
20:00 - Holby City: 4.9m (21%)
21:00 - Traffic Cops: 4.21m (19.1%)

BBC Two
20:15 - MasterChef: The Professionals: 3.53m (14.9%)
21:00 - Defying Gravity: 1.72m (7.7%)
21:45 - Defying Gravity: 1.44m (7.2%)

ITV1
19:30 - UEFA Champions League Live: 4.25m (19%)

Channel 4
20:00 - Hotel Rescue: 1.61m (6.9%)
21:00 - The Secret Millionaire: 2.57m (11.6%)
22:00 - True Blood: 1.2m (7.6%)

Five
20:00 - The Lost Symbol: Truth Or Fiction: 1.4m (6%)
21:00 - FILM: The Man Who Sued God: 1.09m (5.6%)

Sky1
21:00 - NCIS: Los Angeles: 505,000 (2.4%)
22:00 - NCIS: Los Angeles: 360,000 (2.3%)

Source: DS

I dunno about that, Friends Like These did alright for the Beeb. OK, it wasn't thrashing Blind Date or anything but it was a consistent success, and of course when they left, it went on to beat Slap Bang. I seem to remember that, in 2000, they were offered exclusive contracts by both the Beeb and ITV - at that point of course they were doing Friends Like These for the Beeb and SMTV for ITV - and they plumped for ITV.

I remember Slap Bang, it was just SMTV in primetime. I think they did a Channel 4 show prior to SMTV although I can't remember what it was called. SMTV really did wonders for them and Cat Deeley.

They did, Ant and Dec Unzipped, which was of coure a follow-up to their Beeb kids show The Ant and Dec Show. But yes, they were at a bit of a low ebb when SMTV started as the music career had dried up and Channel Four weren't interested in commissioing any more shows from them.

Wednesday 21st October 2009 - Other Ratings
BBC One
18:00 - BBC News at Six: 4.3m (23.8%)
18:30 - Regional News and Weather: 5.2m (26.5%)
19:00 - The One Show: 4.4m (21.7%)
19:30 - Jimmy's Food Factory: 5.4m (26.3%)
....
22:00 - BBC News at Ten: 4.8m (25.1%)
22:25 - Regional News and Weather: 4.5m (26.2%)
22:35 - The National Lottery Draws: 3m (19.1%)

BBC Two
16:30 - Are You an Egghead?: 1.1m (10%)
17:15 - Escape to the Country: 1.3m (9.3%)
18:00 - Eggheads: 1.8m (10.1%)
18:30 - Strictly Come Dancing - It Takes Two: 2.1m (10.9%)
19:00 - Railway Walks: 1.5m (7.3%)
19:30 - Heir Hunters: 1.9m (8.8%)
....
22:30 - Newsnight: 900,000 (7.1%)
23:20 - Dizzee Rascal: Electric Proms: 200,000 (3.3%)

ITV1
18:30 - ITV Evening News and Weather: 3.4m (17.5%)
19:00 - Emmerdale: 6m (29.4%)
* 19:00 to 19:25 - 6.5m (31.3%)
* 19:25 to 19:30 - 3.5m (19.9%)
....
22:00 - News at Ten and Weather: 2.2m (11.8%)
22:35 - UEFA Champions League: 1.2m (11.7%)

Channel 4
16:10 - Deal or No Deal: 1.9m (18.2%)
17:00 - The Paul O'Grady Show: 1.9m (14%)
18:00 - The Simpsons: 1.9m (10.6%)
18:30 - Hollyoaks: 1.4m (7.3%)
19:00 - Channel 4 News: 800,000 (4%)
19:55 - 3 Minute Wonder: 700,000 (3.3%)
....
23:15 - Generation Kill: 300,000 (4.2%)

Five
17:00 - Five News with Natasha Kaplinsky: 700,000 (5.6%)
17:30 - Neighbours: 1.3m (8.4%)
18:00 - Home and Away: 900,000 (5%)
18:25 - Live From Studio Five: 300,000 (1.3%)
19:30 - Highland Emergency: 900,000 (4.2%)

For the ratings reported by DS, click here.

I believe, although someone might want to clarify this, that the above is the lowest share we've seen yet for Live From Studio Five.

I think what sticks out is how well the 7.30pm slot does, both Highland Emergency and How Do it They It build on LFSF and beat the second half of Channel 4 News.