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Ratings Thread (Part 4)
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D.M.N.
02-09-2009
Tuesday 1st September 2009
BBC One
13:45 - Doctors: 1.51m (20.8%)
19:30 - EastEnders: 5.95m (28%)
20:00 - Holby City: 5.11m (22.3%)
21:00 - Traffic Cops: 3.64m (15.8%)
* audience increased from 3.3m (14.7%) to 3.8m (16.5%)

BBC Two
20:00 - Coast: 3.7m (16.1%)
21:00 - The Choir - Unsung Town: 2.5m (10.9%)

ITV1
19:00 - Emmerdale: 5.95m (29.2%)
* 19:00 to 19:30: 6.61m (33.5%)
* 19:30 to 20:00: 5.29m (24.9%)
20:00 - Who Wants To Be A Millionaire?: 3.57m (15.6%)
21:00 - The Fixer: 3.83m (16.7%)
* audience declined from 4.3m (18.8%) to 3.5m (15.4%)

Channel 4
18:30 - Hollyoaks: 1.55m (8.4%)
* largest audience since July 21st
20:00 - Big Brother: 2.19m (9.6%)
* +1: 224,000 (1.1%)
21:00 - Jamie's American Road Trip: 2.81m (12.2%)
* +1: 296,000
22:00 - Big Brother: 2.52m (12.7%)
* +1: 144,000 (1.5%)

Five
17:30 - Neighbours: 1.47m (10.6%)
18:00 - Home and Away: 1.14m (6.7%)
20:00 - Big, Bigger, Biggest: 693,000 (3%)
21:00 - CSI: Miami: 2.13m (9.3%)

BBC Three
21:00 - Don't Tell The Bride: 415,000 (1.9%)
22:00 - EastEnders: 918,000 (4.9%)

BBC Four
21:00 - Rich Man, Poor Man: 124,000 (0.6%)

E4
19:00 - Hollyoaks: 503,000 (2.8%)
* +1: 107,000 (0.5%)

Fiver
18:30 - Home and Away: 583,000 (2.4%)
19:00 - Neighbours: 244,000 (1.4%)

Living
21:00 - Ghost Whisperer: 298,000 (1.4%)

Source: DS, Broadcast

Nothing spectacular last night due to the clashes from various channels, although I suspect The Fixer will jump over 4m next week as BBC One have a documentary called Lost Land of the Volcano, which I don't think will light ratings up.
nick202
02-09-2009
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Tuesday 1st September 2009
BBC One
13:45 - Doctors: 1.51m (20.8%)
19:30 - EastEnders: 5.95m (28%)
20:00 - Holby City: 5.11m (22.3%)
21:00 - Traffic Cops: 3.64m (15.8%)
* audience increased from 3.3m (14.7%) to 3.8m (16.5%)

BBC Two
20:00 - Coast: 3.7m (16.1%)
21:00 - The Choir - Unsung Town: 2.5m (10.9%)

ITV1
19:00 - Emmerdale: 5.95m (29.2%)
* 19:00 to 19:30: 6.61m (33.5%)
* 19:30 to 20:00: 5.29m (24.9%)
20:00 - Who Wants To Be A Millionaire?: 3.57m (15.6%)
21:00 - The Fixer: 3.83m (16.7%)
* audience declined from 4.3m (18.8%) to 3.5m (15.4%)

Channel 4
18:30 - Hollyoaks: 1.55m (8.4%)
* largest audience since July 21st
20:00 - Big Brother: 2.19m (9.6%)
* +1: 224,000 (1.1%)
21:00 - Jamie's American Road Trip: 2.81m (12.2%)
* +1: 296,000
22:00 - Big Brother: 2.52m (12.7%)
* +1: 144,000 (1.5%)

Five
17:30 - Neighbours: 1.47m (10.6%)
18:00 - Home and Away: 1.14m (6.7%)
20:00 - Big, Bigger, Biggest: 693,000 (3%)
21:00 - CSI: Miami: 2.13m (9.3%)

BBC Three
21:00 - Don't Tell The Bride: 415,000 (1.9%)
22:00 - EastEnders: 918,000 (4.9%)

BBC Four
21:00 - Rich Man, Poor Man: 124,000 (0.6%)

E4
19:00 - Hollyoaks: 503,000 (2.8%)
* +1: 107,000 (0.5%)

Fiver
18:30 - Home and Away: 583,000 (2.4%)
19:00 - Neighbours: 244,000 (1.4%)

Living
21:00 - Ghost Whisperer: 298,000 (1.4%)

Source: DS, Broadcast

Nothing spectacular last night due to the clashes from various channels, although I suspect The Fixer will jump over 4m next week as BBC One have a documentary called Lost Land of the Volcano, which I don't think will light ratings up.”

I also think Jamie may shed a few viewers - last night's show was like Ross Kemp on Gangs with a smidgen of cooking thrown in
yorkie100
02-09-2009
Not great for The Fixer not only the actual rating but the fact that it shed 800,000 from beginning to end. Still round about what it got towards the end of the first series but will have to improve I think to continue past this series.
Woody_Enfield
02-09-2009
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“as BBC One have a documentary called Lost Land of the Volcano, which I don't think will light ratings up.”

I don't know. Lava is very hot.

*runs from thread*
Agent F
02-09-2009
Originally Posted by nick202:
“I also think Jamie may shed a few viewers - last night's show was like Ross Kemp on Gangs with a smidgen of cooking thrown in ”

I read a review that said Jamie had turned all Louis Theroux and that you'd hardly think the show was about cooking at all. I did get that impression from the adverts actually. Glad I opted with 'The Choir' as it's a really brilliant show and I'm happy to see it did well for BBC Two.
GeorgeS
02-09-2009
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Tuesday 1st September 2009
BBC One
13:45 - Doctors: 1.51m (20.8%)
19:30 - EastEnders: 5.95m (28%)
20:00 - Holby City: 5.11m (22.3%)
21:00 - Traffic Cops: 3.64m (15.8%)
* audience increased from 3.3m (14.7%) to 3.8m (16.5%)

BBC Two
20:00 - Coast: 3.7m (16.1%)
21:00 - The Choir - Unsung Town: 2.5m (10.9%)

ITV1
19:00 - Emmerdale: 5.95m (29.2%)
* 19:00 to 19:30: 6.61m (33.5%)
* 19:30 to 20:00: 5.29m (24.9%)
20:00 - Who Wants To Be A Millionaire?: 3.57m (15.6%)
21:00 - The Fixer: 3.83m (16.7%)
* audience declined from 4.3m (18.8%) to 3.5m (15.4%)

Channel 4
18:30 - Hollyoaks: 1.55m (8.4%)
* largest audience since July 21st
20:00 - Big Brother: 2.19m (9.6%)
* +1: 224,000 (1.1%)
21:00 - Jamie's American Road Trip: 2.81m (12.2%)
* +1: 296,000
22:00 - Big Brother: 2.52m (12.7%)
* +1: 144,000 (1.5%)

Five
17:30 - Neighbours: 1.47m (10.6%)
18:00 - Home and Away: 1.14m (6.7%)
20:00 - Big, Bigger, Biggest: 693,000 (3%)
21:00 - CSI: Miami: 2.13m (9.3%)

BBC Three
21:00 - Don't Tell The Bride: 415,000 (1.9%)
22:00 - EastEnders: 918,000 (4.9%)

BBC Four
21:00 - Rich Man, Poor Man: 124,000 (0.6%)

E4
19:00 - Hollyoaks: 503,000 (2.8%)
* +1: 107,000 (0.5%)

Fiver
18:30 - Home and Away: 583,000 (2.4%)
19:00 - Neighbours: 244,000 (1.4%)

Living
21:00 - Ghost Whisperer: 298,000 (1.4%)

Source: DS, Broadcast”

ITV2
8pm What Katie Did Next 365,000 1.7%
9pm The Bodyguard 513,000 3.0%

ITV3
7.55pm Agatha Christie’s Poirot 471,000 2.2%
9pm Super Sleuths 209,000 1.0%

ITV4
10pm Bronson Season: Death Wish 4: The Crackdown 436,000 3.6%
sn_22
02-09-2009
Not unsurprisingly, a pretty poor performance from The Fixer. Clearly the promotion did a decent job of getting people to the start to give it another go, but they slipped away again. Highly likely it'll be dumped after this series, I think.

BBC Two had another strong Tuesday. Coast is doing brilliantly for them and they've used it to good effect, launching Desperate Romantics and The Choir after it. A glance at Channel 4 tells you how times have changed, with the show in the Big Brother sandwich comfortably outperforming BB itself.
mlt11
02-09-2009
Astonishing news:

W/e 23/08/09 - ie the first week of XF - is ITV1's lowest ever weekly share in history - 14.5%.

http://www.barb.co.uk/report/weeklyV...yOverview?_s=4

http://www.barb.co.uk/graph/viewingShare?_s=4

XF official rating was 11.00m.
D.M.N.
02-09-2009
Originally Posted by mlt11:
“Astonishing news:

W/e 23/08/09 - ie the first week of XF - is ITV1's lowest ever weekly share in history - 14.5%.

http://www.barb.co.uk/report/weeklyV...yOverview?_s=4

http://www.barb.co.uk/graph/viewingShare?_s=4

XF official rating was 11.00m.”

Probably due to the 1.5m rating for the Champions League qualifier.

BBC Two's share (9.7%) is the highest since June 2007 when it also had 9.7%. If you have to go back further to get higher than 9.7%, you're looking at about May 2006 when it had 10.4%.
square_eyes
02-09-2009
Average at best for The Fixer.

Wonder how Harry Potter will perform tonight, do viewers really want to give the whole of their TV viewing over to this movie tonight ?
D.M.N.
02-09-2009
Top 20 Officials- Most watched programmes of 2009 (up to and including w/e August 23rd)
01 - 18.29m - BRITAIN'S GOT TALENT FINAL RESULT (31/05/09) - ITV1
02 - 16.36m - BRITAIN'S GOT TALENT (31/05/09) - ITV1
03 - 11.46m - CORONATION STREET (02/02/09) - ITV1
04 - 11.46m - EASTENDERS (02/04/09) - BBC1
05 - 11.31m - DANCING ON ICE (22/03/09) - ITV1

06 - 11.00m - THE X FACTOR (22/08/09) - ITV1
07 - 9.91m - JONATHAN CREEK (01/01/09) - BBC1
08 - 9.84m - COMIC RELIEF (13/03/09) - BBC1
09 - 9.76m - THE APPRENTICE (03/06/09) - BBC1
10 - 9.54m - DOCTOR WHO (11/04/09) - BBC1

11 - 9.26m - WHITECHAPEL (02/02/09) - ITV1
12 - 9.20m - KILIMANJARO: THE BIG RED NOSE CLIMB (12/03/09) - BBC1
13 - 8.78m - NEW TRICKS (16/07/09) - BBC1
14 - 8.92m - DANCING ON ICE - THE SKATE OFF (08/03/09) - ITV1
15 - 8.55m - WIMBLEDON 2009 (29/06/09) - BBC1

16 - 8.54m - EMMERDALE (02/02/09) - ITV1
17 - 8.53m - COMIC RELIEF DOES THE APPRENTICE (12/03/09) - BBC1
18 - 8.52m - WILD AT HEART (08/03/09) - ITV1
19 - 8.44m - LET'S DANCE FOR COMIC RELIEF (07/03/09) - BBC1
20 - 8.31m - UEFA CHAMPIONS LEAGUE: Man United vs Barcelona (27/05/09) - ITV1

BBC1- 10
ITV1- 10
sn_22
02-09-2009
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Probably due to the 1.5m rating for the Champions League qualifier.

BBC Two's share (9.7%) is the highest since June 2007 when it also had 9.7%. If you have to go back further to get higher than 9.7%, you're looking at about May 2006 when it had 10.4%.”

Yeah, that was the really bad week when they were sub- 3m in almost all 9pm slots.

BBC Two is performing very strongly this summer - they've brought out some of their strongest hits (Coast, Dragons Den, The Choir, The Tudors, plus the Athletics) - not sure what it leaves them with for autumn though.
square_eyes
02-09-2009
Originally Posted by mlt11:
“
XF official rating was 11.00m.”

Up on the official launch show rating of 2008 then which was 10.78m.
PJMillar
02-09-2009
WARNING: Fantasy schedule

Spoiler


Putting a quality drama on a Tuesday night, where they NEVER show drama. Why can't they show it in their successful 'Monday Night Thriller' strand, for god's sake.

Yes, they've got overload on new dramas, but why are they putting them in ridiculous parts of the schedule?

Also, having a continuous crime drama in The Bill is ridiculous as well in the 9pm slot, everyone's going to slip away, because there's no character development. People complain about The Bill being too soapy, but there was a period between 1992-2001 where soap and cop drama had the perfect juxtaposition - and that was when it was most successful critically and ratings wise.

I've said it before and I've said it again, the only way they're going to stamp out their bad reputations on Tuesday and Thursday nights is to put Dancing on Ice there, followed by quality factual/entertainment commissions.

Wednesday could be football & detective/crime 2 hour pieces, WITH Coronation Street there.

Why don't I do a fantasy schedule? I haven't done one for a while, but it's just ridiculous how ITV think they can put expensive new dramas in a slot where viewers are used to crap like 'The Dutchess in Hull'.

Lets say that this new (long term) schedule was to come into place in January 2011, which gives ITV enough time to think through a new strategy, create a new more slick look for the channel, echoing their 1999 idents.

And perhaps even giving its channel a separate look for each day, which will be characterised in a certain way as you will see.

(Remember in 2011, ITV won't have any FA Cup anymore)

Monday
7:00pm Emmerdale
7:30pm Coronation Street
8:00pm World in Action
8:30pm The Krypton Factor (17 episodes) / University Challenge (for the rest of the year)
9:00pm Whitechapel (6 part series) / Identity (6 part series) / Blue Murder / Law & Order UK throughout summer / Monday Night Thrillers / Doc Martin in Autumn
10:00pm News at Ten
10:20pm Anglia News & Weather
10:30pm Police, Camera, Action

Already, you can see the changes coming into place, including a shorter news bulletin at Ten by five minutes, to make way for an all new important half an hour slot at 10:30pm. Also, I've scrapped the 8:30pm Coronation Street, so we cut down on soaps and invest in other programming which has more variety. There would be occasional 8:30pm episodes when there are big storylines though. I think it's important to keep Coronation Street at 4 times a week.

Also, poaching 'University Challenge' back from the BBC. Remember Granada Television make the show, and it's doing very well on BBC2 against tough competition at 8pm on Monday nights, getting nearly 3 million viewers. Given university is quite well reached now, it should surely appeal.

It creates an 8:30pm slot for the whole year based around actual quality high-brow entertainment programming, as opposed to trashy shit.

World in Action also returns, giving ITV a sense of quality and respect in the current affairs department. It builds on their newly found reputation from 'News at Ten'

Tuesday
7:00pm Emmerdale
7:30pm House Guest
8:00pm Dancing on Ice
9:00pm Tuesday Travels:Greatest Cities of the World; Jewel of the Nile with Joanna Lumley; Amanda Holden American Country Dancing (very fitting for after 'Dancing on Ice')
10:00pm News at Ten
10:20pm Anglia News & Weather
10:30pm Tarrant on TV

This is programmes aimed at female and ABC1. 9pm shows will get a lead-in of 6-7 million viewers. Dancing on Ice will lose viewing figures, but the whole network benefits as a result. For the first show and Final, Dancing on Ice will be screened from 8pm-10pm. The results show is on Thursday. And also, some event 3 part ITV dramas (like 'The Commander' and 'Above Suspicion') can finish its run on a Tuesday at 9pm.

Wednesday
7:00pm Emmerdale
(7:30pm Coronation Street WHEN there is no football)
7:30pm Champions League Live / The Big Match Live (England matches)
OR
8:00pm Hidden Depths (3 parts: new crime drama just commissioned) / Single Handed (3 parts: great critical acclaim) / Brit Awards / Soap Awards
10:00pm News at Ten
10:20pm Anglia News & Weather
10:30pm Baddiel & Skinner (New series, aimed at the Wednesday male audience)
11:00pm Dexter (carrying on the male skewed programming on a Wednesday, this should do OK)

So on Wednesday, ITV are pretty much full of potentially brilliant ratings, and from it, ITV could create a night just for men on their channel.

Thursday
7:00pm Emmerdale
7:30pm Grimefighters
8:00pm Dancing on Ice: The Skate-Off / The Whole 19 Yards / The Cube
9:00pm Piers Morgan's Life Stories / comedy pilots, etc
10:00pm News at Ten
10:15pm Anglia News & Weather
10:30pm Moving Wallpaper

ITV aim to completely rejuvenate Thursday nights in the first few months with 2 hits in their schedule: The Skate-Off which should fair between 5-7 million viewers, and Piers Morgan's Life Stories, which should fair between 4-6 million viewers, and that's being pessimistic.

For the rest of the year, adventure/physical gameshows will settle in that 8pm slot, like 'The Cube' and 'The Whole 19 Yards', among other things. The 9pm slot can be free for experiments, I feel, like family drama pilots and comedy shows.

Friday
7:00pm Emmerdale
7:30pm Coronation Street
8:00pm Tonight with Trevor McDonald
8:30pm Harry Hill's TV Burp
9:00pm Benidorm
9:30pm Not Going Out
10:00pm News at Ten
10:20pm Anglia News & Weather
10:30pm TV's Naughtiest Blunders

Who said Friday nights weren't for comedy anymore? Yes, the BBC were squeezed out by ITV's Coronation Street at 8:30pm, but it still doesn't do very well in the ratings in comparison to other nights. So, the best thing to do for me is to find Harry Hill a regular slot at 8:30pm. It's done well there before, and should achieve 5-6 million viewers.

Benidorm is wasted going into the hour-long format, and was best in 30 minutes. So the 2011 series will be that, as ITV picks up rights to show 'Not Going Out', starring Lee Mack. And with TV's Naughtiest Blunders after the News, it gives Friday nights a whole new appeal.

Saturday
5:30pm You've Been Framed
6:00pm Catchphrase (with Roy Walker)
6:30pm *Andrew Lloyd Webber's Wizard of Oz thing*
8:00pm Primeval (Ten part series, REVERSE THE AXE PLEASE, it would do very well in the Winter).
9:00pm *Andrew Lloyd Webber's Wizard of Oz thing*
9:30pm Saturday Night Live (Ant & Dec's saucier 'Saturday Night Takeaway' with lots of risque comedy and brilliant music.
10:30pm The Late News
10:45pm Anglia News & Weather
11:00pm Late Night Movie

Saturday nights seem to have a lot more variety in Winter, with no trashy gameshows apart from the brilliant Catchphrase . The Wizard of Oz show would slot nicely on a Saturday, and I think 'Saturday Night Live' could solve ITV's post 9pm programme on a Saturday night.

Sunday
1:30pm Vintage Film
3:30pm Thunderbirds repeats
4:30pm Family Film
6:30pm Anglia News & Weather
6:45pm Weekend News
7:00pm Emmerdale
7:30pm Coronation Street
8:00pm The Royal
9:00pm Kingdom
10:00pm News at Ten
10:20pm Anglia News & Weather
10:30pm Harry Hill's TV Burp (repeat)
11:00pm The South Bank Show

I think going back to ITV's news + soaps + family drama (The Royal, Wild at Heart, Heartbeat) + family drama (Kingdom, Doc Martin, Downton Abbey, the new Upstairs Downstairs kind of series ITV commissioned) OR 2 hour detective drama (Lewis, Midsomer Murders, Foyle's War, Marple, Poirot) + news = all year round success

And a special Fry & Laurie night on the first Sunday of January, a week before the start of Kingdom:

9:00pm Our Green & Pleasant Land (Documentary series narrated by both Fry & Laurie)
10:00pm News at Ten
10:20pm Anglia News & Weather
10:30pm Comedy Classics
11:00pm Jeeves & Wooster (first ever episode)
11:30pm Jeeves & Wooster (last ever episode).

Anyway, that's the long list of changes I'd make.



NOTE: To posters who think I change my ideas all the time, well it's simply not true. This is a radical plan indeed, sometimes I post short term solutions, but I probably don't make it clear that I am.
D.M.N.
02-09-2009
Originally Posted by PJMillar:
“Remember in 2011, ITV won't have any FA Cup anymore”

Source?
PJMillar
02-09-2009
Originally Posted by D.M.N.:
“Source?”

I thought the deal ended this year, ah, I might be wrong. I thought it was a 2 year deal. Was it 4?

If it was 4, that's awful for ITV.
hopeandfaith06
02-09-2009
Originally Posted by PJMillar:
“WARNING: Fantasy schedule

*Fantasy schedule*

NOTE: To posters who think I change my ideas all the time, well it's simply not true. This is a radical plan indeed, sometimes I post short term solutions, but I probably don't make it clear that I am.”

(I removed the schedule to give more space)

Ok first off all, why the spoilers?

About the schedule, some of it is fine, but Dancing on Ice on a Tuesday is a big no no. DOI is a weekend program and should stay on Sunday, or possibly a move to Saturday, but never a week day.

I agree Monday nights should always be for crime/thriller dramas. ITV should go back to their slogan 'Monday Night Dramas'
Tuesdays should be for documentaries/lifestyle programs with a light entertainment program at 7:30.
About University Challenge, ITV could not just take the show back Yes they make it, but BBC own the rights to the show and it would be up to BBC whether they wanted to hand it back to ITV or not.

Wednesday, as you say, 2 hour drama or sport. Corrie back at 7:30 and if possible when football is on, could it not start at 8pm and just have the news later?

Thursdays should be for lighter comedy/entertainment (again not DOI) with The Bill moved back to 8pm (but keep it one episode a week) and like you said, something like grime fighters in the 7:30 slot.

Fridays like you said, comedy and light entertainment (like Thursdays but without The Bill). Two episodes of corrie can sometimes be a bit much and i sometimes can't be bothered with the second ep so i would drop that.

I actually like your idea of reducing the length of the 10pm news so the local news finishes at 10:30 meaning there is a full 30 minutes to the next hour instead of 25 mins.

Its hard to do a weekend schedule, but i like the idea of having soaps back on Sunday, i liked sitting down for soaps at 7pm and a family drama at 8pm. DOI could be moved to Saturday nights so the soaps wouldn't have to be moved on Sunday for it. Then the results show could either be on later Saturday night, or Sunday at 9pm.
newkid30
02-09-2009
Originally Posted by sn_22:
“BBC Two is performing very strongly this summer - they've brought out some of their strongest hits (Coast, Dragons Den, The Choir, The Tudors, plus the Athletics) - not sure what it leaves them with for autumn though.”

The Resaturant and Junior Masterchef - both should get solid ratings
tom green
02-09-2009
Originally Posted by newkid30:
“The Resaturant and Junior Masterchef - both should get solid ratings ”

Junior masterchef is an cbbc show i think.The resturant is getting 2 spin offs though, one following Raymond Blanc and the other following the winners of series two.
Manxy 2007
02-09-2009
There is also going to be another series of Masterchef the Professionals for the weekday 6.30 slot.
James J
02-09-2009
PJMillar you moaned about it then did not even include The Bill in your fantasy schedule?

Also you appear to have eliminated an episode of Coronation Street which is a foolish decision even in a fantasy schedule for one of the rare shows that does well on a consistent basis, and abolished the Emmerdale 8pm episode, which rates one of the best in the week on Thursdays.



Dancing on Ice on Tuesdays and Thursdays? And then what from March?

Sorry to be so blunt but I don't think your ideas are especially cognitive.
mlt11
02-09-2009
Coronation Street must be ITV's single most profitable programme.

It would be financially catastrophic to reduce the number of episodes. It is totally inconceivable that this would ever happen.

It is far more likely that the number of episodes will be increased to 6 per week - If Emmerdale can have 6 episodes per week, why not Coronation Street?
tom green
02-09-2009
Originally Posted by Manxy 2007:
“There is also going to be another series of Masterchef the Professionals for the weekday 6.30 slot.”

Yes. Does anyone know when its on because strictly it takes two will be in the 6.30 slot from september 21 until christmas and trust me im an dealer is on until then.Eggheads is nearly always on at six. Maybe it will promoted to primetime BBC 2
GeorgeS
02-09-2009
Originally Posted by mlt11:
“Coronation Street must be ITV's single most profitable programme.”

after X Factor
James J
02-09-2009
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