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That must be one of the lowest 9pm slot winning ratings of the year !
So, the SCD Friday editions will surely have to be 90 minutes, so looks like a Corrie clash on the way. If the dance last 2-3 minutes then that leaves enough time for comments, votes and interviews. Say 6 and a half minutes per dance to leave 8 minutes for titles, credits, Bruce's patter, introductions of dancers and judges and BBC trailers just before the news. Start a couple of minutes before 9 just for that little bit extra time. No need for a clash with Corrie. Incidentally, anybody think that ITV1 have put an hour long Emmerdale on against Eastenders next Tuesday just six weeks after stopping it, as a petty-minded tit-for-tat retalliation against BBC1 putting the Edinburgh Tattoo and the bank holiday drama Framed on against Corrie?
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LMAO at Bruce Forsyth... Quote:
Speaking about the ratings battle, he added: "There's one other thing that I'd like to clear up. There's a story that started at the end of last series and has been running all through this year. The story is that The X Factor beat us in the ratings. Now, I'd like to challenge that. You can all say prove it and I will with facts." Handing out a list of ratings statistics, he continued: "These are the ratings for the whole series. Take some home to your editors! "On September 20 we went on at 6:15pm and ended at 7:30pm with an audience of 7.99 million - 49% - which is very, very high. The X Factor starts at 7:30pm - after we have finished - so how can you compare the two figures? You can't because 6:15pm on a Saturday night compared to 7:30pm on a Saturday has a difference of about one or two millions viewers. I won't go through the rest with you, but you can see for yourself if you read the stats." Quote:
"Is there anyone here from the Daily Mail? Why don't you like me? I only complained to the Press Complaints Commission once and you still don't like me! Can you please write something nice about me."
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/strictly...y-critics.htmlHilarious. He does have a point though. It isn't fair to compare Strictly at 6.15pm and X Factor at 7.30pm. If it was the other way around the ratings would be the other way around, because all the X Factor viewers would switch over - like they did to X Factor. Plus the total number of TV viewers rises until about 9pm on a Saturday, so you have a larger potential audience when you go on later. |
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8 dances in a 60 minute programme = 7 minutes per dance.
If the dance last 2-3 minutes then that leaves enough time for comments, votes and interviews. Say 6 and a half minutes per dance to leave 8 minutes for titles, credits, Bruce's patter, introductions of dancers and judges and BBC trailers just before the news. Start a couple of minutes before 9 just for that little bit extra time. No need for a clash with Corrie. Incidentally, anybody think that ITV1 have put an hour long Emmerdale on against Eastenders next Tuesday just six weeks after stopping it, as a petty-minded tit-for-tat retalliation against BBC1 putting the Edinburgh Tattoo and the bank holiday drama Framed on against Corrie? ![]() |
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LMAO at Bruce Forsyth...
http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/strictly...y-critics.html Hilarious. He does have a point though. It isn't fair to compare Strictly at 6.15pm and X Factor at 7.30pm. If it was the other way around the ratings would be the other way around, because all the X Factor viewers would switch over - like they did to X Factor. Plus the total number of TV viewers rises until about 9pm on a Saturday, so you have a larger potential audience when you go on later. .He makes a fair point about being on earlier, but Strictly's share was still lower than The X Factor's last series. 42% to 37%. If both shares were the same, then his argument would look stronger. As it is, there's no guarantee that SCD would have beaten TXF in a later slot. Also, for XF's Sundays shows last year they started before Strictly (one show started nearly two hours earlier) and still beat it in the ratings those days! Quote:
But surely you cant do all the dances and leave time for voting/results etc in a 60 minute programme - can you?
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8 dances in a 60 minute programme = 7 minutes per dance.
If the dance last 2-3 minutes then that leaves enough time for comments, votes and interviews. Say 6 and a half minutes per dance to leave 8 minutes for titles, credits, Bruce's patter, introductions of dancers and judges and BBC trailers just before the news. Start a couple of minutes before 9 just for that little bit extra time. No need for a clash with Corrie. Quote:
Incidentally, anybody think that ITV1 have put an hour long Emmerdale on against Eastenders next Tuesday just six weeks after stopping it, as a petty-minded tit-for-tat retalliation against BBC1 putting the Edinburgh Tattoo and the bank holiday drama Framed on against Corrie?
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2.6m again for Would I Lie To You, not bad at all for the 10:35 slot (well it beat thier 9:00 offering anyway
) Does it look likly that it will be recommissioned in the same slot?What did WILTY get in week 2? Is it following the same pattern as ASOT and BGTT? Next week's WILTY is on at the earlier time on 10.00 (on the bank holiday) and gets priority over the news. I wonder if the BBC are regretting putting it on so late. Last night's episode was absolutely hiliarious. ![]() ![]()
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That must be one of the lowest 9pm slot winning ratings of the year !
So, the SCD Friday editions will surely have to be 90 minutes, so looks like a Corrie clash on the way. |
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Glad that WILTY is doing OK in the later slot. I think its a good plan from BBC One to try and use the 10.35pm slot a bit better - especially in appealling to younger viewers. Considering the numbers up for grabs there - its a pretty under-exploited slot.
Brucie clearly getting a bit exasperated with the ratings battle talk. I do understand the frustration - the simple fact is that SCD had a record performance last year. Its hardly knocking on deaths door - its stronger than its ever been. But the press are too interested looking for the "battle" which must have a winner and a loser. XF itself has come up against this in the past few days with people downplaying its very strong numbers because they look moderate in comparison to BGT. |
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It seems like plans are already underway regarding the audition process for Big Brother 11, and that Channel 4 are 'happy' with this year's series: http://www.insidebigbrother.net/news...el-4-happy.ibb
When will they realise that the audience level and interest will continue to slide? |
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If the Friday SCDs are going to be 60 minutes, they'll probably still start at 8.30pm. 9pm would be too late a start for what's meant to be a family light ent show.
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Incidentally, anybody think that ITV1 have put an hour long Emmerdale on against Eastenders next Tuesday just six weeks after stopping it, as a petty-minded tit-for-tat retalliation against BBC1 putting the Edinburgh Tattoo and the bank holiday drama Framed on against Corrie? ![]() And I think the scheduling of Framed works more in favour for ITV1, because Corrie will always have 7m loyal viewers who will watch that Monday episode and then provide a decent lead in for Wuthering. People won't want to switch on Framed after already missing half an hour of it. Next week ITV should have a great week with Wuthering, Harry Potter and a much better Tuesday schedule (even though I think The Fixer won't reach its full potential in a Tuesday slot). |
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It seems like plans are already underway regarding the audition process for Big Brother 11, and that Channel 4 are 'happy' with this year's series: http://www.insidebigbrother.net/news...el-4-happy.ibb
When will they realise that the audience level and interest will continue to slide? |
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A - there is always a get out clause. It might cost, but especially in these times there is always an opportunity to renegotiate contracts - i.e. scrap BB for now but commit to looking at a reworked version in future years, or commit to a level of other Endemol programmes instead.
B - if they can't get out of it and are committed to effectively six months of the show, why on earth did they let BB10 be such a disaster rather than giving it a fighting chance of reviving the shows fortunes (both Endemol and C4 actually!) It's one thing burning off episodes of a series already in the can, but another letting a show die without bothering to even try to revive it when you've got the chance. And if they tried next year, it simply would be too late. |
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I think next year is the final year in the contract and I suspect Channel 4 will not renew it and end it and after 10 years which is still a fantastic run.
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If you asked me, I'd say C4 milked it way too much. Having a reality show, day-in day-out for 13 weeks is too much and soon gets boring.
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I gave up watching completely a few weeks ago. It does go on for too long and I expect the final will only get 3 million, 3.5 million peak possibly.
It looks like there won't be an All Stars next year then? If they are already planning auditions for BB11. |
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Incidentally, anybody think that ITV1 have put an hour long Emmerdale on against Eastenders next Tuesday just six weeks after stopping it, as a petty-minded tit-for-tat retalliation against BBC1 putting the Edinburgh Tattoo and the bank holiday drama Framed on against Corrie?
![]() What I'd have done is, rather than the Thursday 8pm episode, just run five half hours on Monday to Friday and then, when there's no football, have an hour long episode on the Wednesday. If only because the schedules now look a mess, and also there's no need for six shows a week every week just because they can. Although of course it's screwing BBC1 so clearly it'll never happen. |
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It seems like plans are already underway regarding the audition process for Big Brother 11, and that Channel 4 are 'happy' with this year's series: http://www.insidebigbrother.net/news...el-4-happy.ibb
When will they realise that the audience level and interest will continue to slide? |
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It seems like plans are already underway regarding the audition process for Big Brother 11, and that Channel 4 are 'happy' with this year's series: http://www.insidebigbrother.net/news...el-4-happy.ibb
When will they realise that the audience level and interest will continue to slide? Compared to how they felt 12 weeks ago when the ratings first came in, Channel 4 are probably thrilled! The series has clawed back a little bit and avoided a total collapse (which many predicted after the first few numbers). Of course, overall, they will be very disappointed at the ratings. But they aren't going to admit that. |
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8 dances in a 60 minute programme = 7 minutes per dance.
If the dance last 2-3 minutes then that leaves enough time for comments, votes and interviews. Say 6 and a half minutes per dance to leave 8 minutes for titles, credits, Bruce's patter, introductions of dancers and judges and BBC trailers just before the news. Start a couple of minutes before 9 just for that little bit extra time. No need for a clash with Corrie. Incidentally, anybody think that ITV1 have put an hour long Emmerdale on against Eastenders next Tuesday just six weeks after stopping it, as a petty-minded tit-for-tat retalliation against BBC1 putting the Edinburgh Tattoo and the bank holiday drama Framed on against Corrie? ![]() |
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Unfortunately, I don't have the F1 figures (yet!), but Jake Humphrey says that 1 million people after each race press the Red Button and watch the forum.
I don't know about you, but for what is effectively a one-hour post-race roundup for hardcore fans, I find that statistic astonishing. I suspect that it would be one of the highest rated channels in the F1 Forum timeslot (I'm not actually sure if you can class Red Button as a proper channel), probably third best to BBC One, ITV1 and Sky Sports 1 in that timeslot. I've also found out that practice behind the Red Button gets nearly 500,000 viewers, and once you factor in those viewing online, you're looking at probably near 1 million people watching practice - which I find astonishing as well. EDIT: I see BBC have now gone into promo-overdrive with SCD... |
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Isn't Edinburgh Tattoo normally against the soaps and doesn't normally pose too much of a problem?
And I think the scheduling of Framed works more in favour for ITV1, because Corrie will always have 7m loyal viewers who will watch that Monday episode and then provide a decent lead in for Wuthering. People won't want to switch on Framed after already missing half an hour of it. Re Framed: This sort of bank holiday scheduling didn't do the premier of Superman Returns many favours at Christmas as it scored what I would say was a disappointing 4.41m. However fims aren't quite the force they used to be on terrestrial telly and Framed is being well publicised and stars Trevor Eve who's a popular actor. Maybe viewers will feel like watching something different on the BH, and they will have 3 days to catch up with Corrie before the next episode on the Thursday. Whatever happens, let's applaud BBC1 for making a bit of an effort on the Bank Holiday for once (and ITV1 can have a tentative pat on the back.) |
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Unfortunately, I don't have the F1 figures (yet!), but Jake Humphrey says that 1 million people after each race press the Red Button and watch the forum.
I don't know about you, but for what is effectively a one-hour post-race roundup for hardcore fans, I find that statistic astonishing. I suspect that it would be one of the highest rated channels in the F1 Forum timeslot (I'm not actually sure if you can class Red Button as a proper channel), probably third best to BBC One, ITV1 and Sky Sports 1 in that timeslot. I've also found out that practice behind the Red Button gets nearly 500,000 viewers, and once you factor in those viewing online, you're looking at probably near 1 million people watching practice - which I find astonishing as well. |
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