Ratings are in: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/a1779...to-300000.html

Notable figures:

Watchdog 3.8m
NewTricks 5.5m
The Bill 3.54m

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Being reported here that ITV1+1 has been delayed indefinitely?


http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...&postcount=106

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Thursday 17th September Overnights
BBC One
13:45- Doctors: 1.59m (25.5%)
19:30- EastEnders: 7.89m (38.3%)
20:00- Watchdog: 3.8m (17.3%)
21:00- New Tricks: 5.5m (24.8%)
22:35- Being Human: 1.2m (10.6%)

BBC Two
19:30- Escape To The Country: 1.78m (8.6%)
20:15- MasterChef: the Professionals: 2.4m (11%)
21:00- Love Of Money: 1.11m (5%)

ITV1
19:00- Emmerdale: 6.0m (31.7%)
20:00- Emmerdale: 6.57m (30.7%)
20:30- Coronation Street: 7.69m (34.2%)
21:00- The Bill: 3.54m (16%)

Channel 4
18:30- Hollyoaks: 1.42m (8.1%)
20:00- How Clean Is Your House?: 1.5m (7%)
20:30- Dolce Vito - Dream Restaurant: 640k (2.9%)
21:00- Alone In The Wild: 1.34m (6.1%)

Five
17:30- Neighbours: 1.35m (10.1%)
18:00- Home and Away: 952k (5.9%)
18:30- Live From Studio Five: 300k (1.6%)
19:30- Uefa Europa League: 1.4m (6.6%)
* match average: 1.7m

BBC Three
21:00- Tough Guy or Chicken?: 176k (0.9%)
22:00- EastEnders: 703k (4.2%)

BBC Four
19:30- Portrait of Scotland: 135,000
21:00- Scotland on Screen: 258,800 (1.3%)

E4
19:00- Hollyoaks: 556,000 (3.2%)

Fiver
18:30- Home and Away: 952k (5.9%)
19:00- Neighbours: 248k (1.4%)

ITV2
20:00- What Katie Did Next: 1.36m (6.7%)
22:00- Katy Brand's Big Ass Show: 383k (2.3%)
23:00- Coronation Street: 266k (3%)

ITV3
20:00- The Memoirs of Sherlock Holmes: 294,000 (1.5%)
22:00- Trial and Retribution: 250,000 (2.3%)

ITV4
17:30- UEFA Europa League Live: 177,000 (1.0%)
* CSKA Sofia v Fulham peaked at 485,000.
* Athletic Bilbao v Austria Wien peaked at 103,000.
* men's average share of: 1.8% and a 4.7% peak men's share at 19:35

More4
21:00- Jamie’s American Roadtrip: 260,000 (1.3%)

Sky1
21:00- Bones: 153k (0.8%)
22:00- Justin Lee Collins: Ten Pin Bowler: 347k (2.3%)

Primetime Shares
BBC One: 22.9%
ITV1: 21.4%
BBC Two: 8%
Channel 4: 5.1% (+1: 0.7%)
Five: 5.6%

Bad times for The Bill, with just 3.5m against a New Tricks repeat in the middle of September! First time that EastEnders has beaten Corrie since ITV's new Thursday soap lineup was revealed. Watchdog fell 0.8m from last weke, I'm not surprised!

Thats awful for Off the Hook, under 100,00, it wasn't as if anything else was getting super ratings at 20:00 ??

I hope we get some ratings for Sky 3 this weekend, because of their free pass, i wonder if the ratings will go up.

I've taken off the Off the Hook rating from the update, as I'm not sure if that's correct or not.

Media Guardian says: "The second episode of new BBC3 sitcom Off the Hook had just 92,000 viewers, a 0.5% share in multichannel homes, at 8.30pm."

But it's shown at 8pm, so that rating reported might've been for the next show on BBC3.

Ah ok, it would make sense if it was a repeat, but for a new show just two episodes in, it would be terrible!

That's bad news for ITV where The X Factor is concerned - in the 'clash' period you could watch SCD and still watch TXF 'as-live' on +1.

Not good for ITV that The Bill dropped viewers against a repeat. Live at Studio 5 I suspect will be axed sometime soon.

Good night for multichannel though - I bet BBC Four's Scotland programme actually beat STV's Scotland programme!

Very surprised to see The Bill drop back well below 4 million again. I had assumed it would continue recovering from its difficult start. Can't really blame massive competiton - BBC One was strong, and football did decently on Five, but BBC Two and C4 were pretty weak.

I'm sure ITV will persist, but if things don't improve over the course of the autumn, they must surely be looking at ways to shake things up for the new year - either in terms of the style of the show, or the scheduling.

Interesting that Watchdog did drop after all the criticism - they'll clearly have to respond to it. I suspect it still dented Corrie a little though allowing EastEnders to top the night.

I very much doubt that.

Next week seems to be the end of the new tricks repeats for an while, on October 2nd the second part of twins airs and criminal justice is speculated to air the following week

That would be quite poor - but 92,000 for Clever vs Stupid wouldn't surprise me. Whilst Off the Hook is far from a comedy classic, I stumbled across it last week and find it quite watchable.


As for The Bill - it's had a couple of months now and ITV need to be doing something. Moving to Friday is the obvious first thing to do.

Not good for Watchdog dropping almost a million on last week, anyone know what the old style series average used to be?

I don't think changing the day will do much- it's not as if there's any real competition and the figures are still poor. It's the new format the viewers don't like, not the timeslot.

The BBC website and the listings magazines have slightly messed up the Walk on the Wild Side billings. Episode one was shown in the spring, and episodes two to seven have been scheduled last month and this month, leaving one episode on the shelf, for some reason. Maybe it'll appear at Christmas.

What's actually changed apart from the timeslot?

Found this from the Telegraph website:

Coronation Street is reportedly losing one thousand viewers every week - because they are dying.

New figures have revealed that a third of the ITV soap's audience are over 65, meaning they are 165 times more likely to die than anyone else, reports The Sun.

Taking these statistics into account, it means that at least 50,000 Corrie fans are dying each year.

A TV insider told the paper: "Corrie is a massive hit among Britain's older generation, many of whom have watched it since it began nearly 50 years ago.

"Interestingly, the figures show half of its viewers are over 55 as well, so it just goes to show hold old the audience is."

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I wouldn't be surprised if Off The Hook got less than 100,000. I watched it last night and thought it was bloomin' awful!

Agreed. I caught the first episode and it was painfully bad.

I am inclined to agree. The Bill has changed quite a lot. A few years ago, there used to be two stories per episode running parallel to each other. Since the new timeslot, the focus is on one storyline and on fewer characters and the same characters seem to be used in every episode. There's hardly any uniform presence anymore.

Whilst I liked the first few episodes, I have to say I'm growing rather tired with it now. The storyline drags over an hour, the same characters are used and the show is trying to be too much like the American crime dramas, especially The Wire at times and of course, it fails miserably.

Maybe this is why viewers have fallen for The Bill.

The 8pm hour ratings on BBC One and ITV1 look like they were slightly hit by the football, and perhaps Masterchef.

Big test for The Bill in two weeks' time, up against what sounds like a low rating documentary about twins. I think The Bill needs to be over 4m that night, and nearer 5m.

Practically everything.

I don't care whether it's New Tricks or not, but you really can't call a repeat showing 'strong' can you?

...or are you on about the ratings? Week-on-week, New Tricks' repeat showing increased 180,000 - while The Bill decreased 510,000 - so The Bill's decreased doesn't appear to be down to New Tricks but rather down to the football.

I suspect there is an audience clash between The Bill and any football. For reference, last Thursday, Five had about 700,000 viewers (from 20:00 to 22:45), last night it had 1.7m (from 20:00 to 22:00) - an increase of a million.

It appears based on that, that it wasn't New Tricks that swiped The Bill's audience, but rather the Football.


Even if it gets down to about 100,000? Surely repeat episodes of some drama or something is better than producing a live broadcaster day in, day out?

Let's look at the ratings:

Monday - 476,000
Tuesday - 434,000 (decrease of 8.8%)
Wednesday - 370,000 (decrease of 14.7%)
Thursday - 300,000 (decrease of 18.9%)

So about 70,000 appear to be tuning out everyday. I'd hedge a bet than in two/three weeks it'd be down to about 100,000.



The vast majority of 16 to 34 male viewers on Friday's will be out boozing - that will only make the show's audience decrease further.


Fair enough (although I still hope HITW takes a two week mid-series break!)

Is the Singapore Grand Prix live at lunchtime at the end of the month?

Yes, I think it's time to challenge the assumption that ITV will persist with the Bill come what may.

We gather from the announcements made at the time of the move from twice a week to once a week that the budget per episode was actually increased. With ratings slumping badly - and getting well below 4 million against a repeat is very bad - ITV bean-counters cannot escape the conclusion that costs per viewer must have gone up quite sharply.

Some say that a show that has been going for 25 years or so simply could not be axed. Ask any Doctor Who fan from the 1980s what the future holds for a 25 year old programme which has its number of episodes per year halved, sees its format and cast shaken up, is moved relentlessly round the schedules and sees its ratings plummet to 25% of what they used to be - indefinite suspension lasting many years, also known as the chop.

Now, I suppose it's possible that 16 or 17 years after being chopped a 2030s equivalent of Russell T Davies could come along and reinvent the Bill to huge success - but don't count on it.

In the meantime, I'd say that unless the Bill starts putting in ratings comfortably above 5 million throughout the winter months, so that its average around the year is above 4 million, then it's now looking more likely than not that the Bill will not be renewed for a further year after the current run ends in the second half of 2010.

it dropped 700K


Some offical ratings from the end of the last series

March 16th - 4.34m
March 23rd - 4.72m
March 30th - 4.45m
April 7th - 4.39m
April 14th-4.66m
April 21st-4.21m
April 27th - 4.75m
May 4th - 4.13m
May 11th - sub 4m
May 18th - 4.13m

Yep. It's a night race - so it's 20:00 local time, which is 13:00 here.

Qualifying incidentally is a bit different for that race, it is 22:00 local time, which is 15:00 here which means a mid-afternoon slot for Qualifying on BBC One.

I hope Brazil Qualifying on October 17th is on BBC One. I can hope....