I hope Anton does well this year. Seems a bit more promising than previous years!
Could this be Anton's year???
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Originally Posted by SCDancing34:
“I agree that his latin does let him down.
The past two years he didn't need to be too inventive with his latin choreography (Kate and then out in the first round), but in the first few series, such as with Lesley and Patsy he seemed to let them down a bit. I remember the judges being not to pleased with the samba from him and Patsy as it didn't show of their personalities enough.”
“I agree that his latin does let him down.
The past two years he didn't need to be too inventive with his latin choreography (Kate and then out in the first round), but in the first few series, such as with Lesley and Patsy he seemed to let them down a bit. I remember the judges being not to pleased with the samba from him and Patsy as it didn't show of their personalities enough.”
are you kiddin??? have you watched Anton and Lesley's jive recently??? It was AWESOME!
Originally Posted by bonjovibabe71:
“Maybe not (but he always will be to me
!), it just gets on my nerves when people constantly harp on about Anton's Latin ability, yet seem to ignore the woeful ballroom of James/Ola/Camilla etc etc.:yawn: (not a personal remark to you BTW!).”
“Maybe not (but he always will be to me
!), it just gets on my nerves when people constantly harp on about Anton's Latin ability, yet seem to ignore the woeful ballroom of James/Ola/Camilla etc etc.:yawn: (not a personal remark to you BTW!).”
Terrible Latin is a lot more noticeable to the layman than terrible ballroom. There were times when Austin and Erin were dancing when Austin looked a hell of a lot more competant than her, IMO. You never notice that with ballroom, because with the close contact of the pair it's hidden.
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“Terrible Latin is a lot more noticeable to the layman than terrible ballroom. There were times when Austin and Erin were dancing when Austin looked a hell of a lot more competant than her, IMO. You never notice that with ballroom, because with the close contact of the pair it's hidden.”
“Terrible Latin is a lot more noticeable to the layman than terrible ballroom. There were times when Austin and Erin were dancing when Austin looked a hell of a lot more competant than her, IMO. You never notice that with ballroom, because with the close contact of the pair it's hidden.”
^This. Totally.
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“Terrible Latin is a lot more noticeable to the layman than terrible ballroom.”
“Terrible Latin is a lot more noticeable to the layman than terrible ballroom.”
Definitley!
We're not talking professional competition level here.
I'd love Anton to finally do well and imho all he has to do is keep his Latin choreography simple, but make sure it is well executed and he'll be in with a shot if Laila can dance.
We've had Anton's Latin is weak, Anton is getting too old (but not he lies about his age) - who will post his name is really Tony Beak?
I'd love Anton to finally do well and imho all he has to do is keep his Latin choreography simple, but make sure it is well executed and he'll be in with a shot if Laila can dance.
We've had Anton's Latin is weak, Anton is getting too old (but not he lies about his age) - who will post his name is really Tony Beak?
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“Anton is getting too old (but not he lies about his age)”
“Anton is getting too old (but not he lies about his age)”
I LOVE how the BBC website says he is "eternally young", instead of stating his age.
I feel mean saying this but I think it's a shame for Laila she's been partnered with Anton. She's a classy, sexy woman and Anton, who admittedly is classy, is just not sexy or a lady!
Originally Posted by Sofajudge:
“I feel mean saying this but I think it's a shame for Laila she's been partnered with Anton. She's a classy, sexy woman and Anton, who admittedly is classy, is just not sexy or a lady!”
“I feel mean saying this but I think it's a shame for Laila she's been partnered with Anton. She's a classy, sexy woman and Anton, who admittedly is classy, is just not sexy or a lady!”
Meanie!
We don't know if she can dance yet! I got excited when Anton was paired with Patsy and look what happened there!
Well i hope he has a good run..interesting someone said he could succeed brucie one day.
I always fancied him as a judge..
I always fancied him as a judge..
Originally Posted by Paace:
“Yes and he will show all his doubters what a great latin dancer he is.”
“Yes and he will show all his doubters what a great latin dancer he is.”
Indeed.
I've never really been impressed by his Latin the few times I have seen it I have to admit, but he hasn't had many chances to prove himself. Besides, it's HER dancing people should be watching. I was glad when I got back from my hol today to find all the pics of the couples, and it's good that Anton's finally got a younger lady.
Originally Posted by bumblesquat36:
“Well i hope he has a good run..interesting someone said he could succeed brucie one day.
I always fancied him as a judge..”
“Well i hope he has a good run..interesting someone said he could succeed brucie one day.
I always fancied him as a judge..”
Nice thought, at least he'd know what he was talking about. I don't think he'd ever be mean either - he was lovely even when faced with woeful dancing on Let's Dance!
Still think he will fill Brucie's shoes eventually though!
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“Terrible Latin is a lot more noticeable to the layman than terrible ballroom. There were times when Austin and Erin were dancing when Austin looked a hell of a lot more competant than her, IMO. You never notice that with ballroom, because with the close contact of the pair it's hidden.”
“Terrible Latin is a lot more noticeable to the layman than terrible ballroom. There were times when Austin and Erin were dancing when Austin looked a hell of a lot more competant than her, IMO. You never notice that with ballroom, because with the close contact of the pair it's hidden.”
I totally agree. And Anton makes it even worse by his ridiculous outfits- as if he's trying to make a point that he doesn't take any of it seriously.
I thought at times both Austin and Colin looked a lot more natural at latin than Erin. I wonder if the same will be true of Anton and Laila this year.
I think it's very unfair to critisize Anton for not using his real name (assuming Anton is'nt his real name of course) when those of us who post on here come under a user name and not our real name and are therefore doing exactly the same thing !!
Katie_P did you not see & hear how devastated Anton was last year when he was out in the first round -quote:" I lost myself for a few days and did'nt even answser my phone or anything" he was also almost in tears throughout the interview -that to me is someone who takes SCD very seriously!!
Originally Posted by waltzingmatilda:
“Katie_P did you not see & hear how devastated Anton was last year when he was out in the first round -quote:" I lost myself for a few days and did'nt even answser my phone or anything" he was also almost in tears throughout the interview -that to me is someone who takes SCD very seriously!!”
“Katie_P did you not see & hear how devastated Anton was last year when he was out in the first round -quote:" I lost myself for a few days and did'nt even answser my phone or anything" he was also almost in tears throughout the interview -that to me is someone who takes SCD very seriously!!”
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply he doesn't take the show seriously, but I don't think he puts enough into the latin side. It always seems to be a sense of getting through the latin dances so he and his partner can do ballroom again.
Whereas I think strong latin dances are more likely to catch the audience vote than strong ballroom. Which is another reason why some of the latin pros get away with weak ballroom.
To be honest none of the other pros (well the uk trained ones) have ballroom that is anywhere near as bad as Antons latin which frankly is abysmal - I cant see any way Anton can win with that latin which is so poor he doesnt even do the pro dems anymore
I like Anton -I really do. I find him amusing and really enjoy watching his ballroom.
However, I have to take umbrage at the suggestion that he is due a good partner - he has had Lesley who he did really well with, Patsy -who I feel he could have done better with were the Latin routines more up to date and Kate who although terrible, was fairly young and got much further than she deserved.
Jan wasnt ancient either?!?
His older partners have been Esther and? Who? Gillian? Not exactly one foot in the grave?
In fact. people could argue that Darren has had it worse. Gloria and now Lynda - is it just that he is a better coach?
Look at what he did with Letitia -who was pretty bad to start with.
I hope he does well this year -maybe one of the pros who gets knocked out earlier can help him out with some Latin -like he helps them out with ballroom.
However, I have to take umbrage at the suggestion that he is due a good partner - he has had Lesley who he did really well with, Patsy -who I feel he could have done better with were the Latin routines more up to date and Kate who although terrible, was fairly young and got much further than she deserved.
Jan wasnt ancient either?!?
His older partners have been Esther and? Who? Gillian? Not exactly one foot in the grave?
In fact. people could argue that Darren has had it worse. Gloria and now Lynda - is it just that he is a better coach?
Look at what he did with Letitia -who was pretty bad to start with.
I hope he does well this year -maybe one of the pros who gets knocked out earlier can help him out with some Latin -like he helps them out with ballroom.
Originally Posted by Sofajudge:
“I feel mean saying this but I think it's a shame for Laila she's been partnered with Anton. She's a classy, sexy woman and Anton, who admittedly is classy, is just not sexy or a lady!”
“I feel mean saying this but I think it's a shame for Laila she's been partnered with Anton. She's a classy, sexy woman and Anton, who admittedly is classy, is just not sexy or a lady!”
Would you rather she was partnered with another classy, sexy woman ?
Originally Posted by dinosaur05:
“I like Anton -I really do. I find him amusing and really enjoy watching his ballroom.
However, I have to take umbrage at the suggestion that he is due a good partner - he has had Lesley who he did really well with, Patsy -who I feel he could have done better with were the Latin routines more up to date and Kate who although terrible, was fairly young and got much further than she deserved.
Jan wasnt ancient either?!?
His older partners have been Esther and? Who? Gillian? Not exactly one foot in the grave?
In fact. people could argue that Darren has had it worse. Gloria and now Lynda - is it just that he is a better coach?
Look at what he did with Letitia -who was pretty bad to start with. I hope he does well this year -maybe one of the pros who gets knocked out earlier can help him out with some Latin -like he helps them out with ballroom.”
“I like Anton -I really do. I find him amusing and really enjoy watching his ballroom.
However, I have to take umbrage at the suggestion that he is due a good partner - he has had Lesley who he did really well with, Patsy -who I feel he could have done better with were the Latin routines more up to date and Kate who although terrible, was fairly young and got much further than she deserved.
Jan wasnt ancient either?!?
His older partners have been Esther and? Who? Gillian? Not exactly one foot in the grave?
In fact. people could argue that Darren has had it worse. Gloria and now Lynda - is it just that he is a better coach?
Look at what he did with Letitia -who was pretty bad to start with. I hope he does well this year -maybe one of the pros who gets knocked out earlier can help him out with some Latin -like he helps them out with ballroom.”
He had Jill Halfpenny and Emma Bunton...none of Anton's partners have been anywhere near as good as these 2, and one of them won !! That said, I don't think Darren should have been partnered with Lynda this year, I think maybe Matthew C should have. Matt's had 2 good years in a row, one of which with Aleesha, and this year is looking promising too. He also works well with the older ones because he is one of the more patient pros (ie he's not Brenden or James).
I guess they have to consider height and how well the couples will gel though, not just who the pros deserve.
Originally Posted by dinosaur05:
“I like Anton -I really do. I find him amusing and really enjoy watching his ballroom.
However, I have to take umbrage at the suggestion that he is due a good partner - he has had Lesley who he did really well with, Patsy -who I feel he could have done better with were the Latin routines more up to date and Kate who although terrible, was fairly young and got much further than she deserved.
Jan wasnt ancient either?!?
His older partners have been Esther and? Who? Gillian? Not exactly one foot in the grave?
In fact. people could argue that Darren has had it worse. Gloria and now Lynda - is it just that he is a better coach?
Look at what he did with Letitia -who was pretty bad to start with.
I hope he does well this year -maybe one of the pros who gets knocked out earlier can help him out with some Latin -like he helps them out with ballroom.”
“I like Anton -I really do. I find him amusing and really enjoy watching his ballroom.
However, I have to take umbrage at the suggestion that he is due a good partner - he has had Lesley who he did really well with, Patsy -who I feel he could have done better with were the Latin routines more up to date and Kate who although terrible, was fairly young and got much further than she deserved.
Jan wasnt ancient either?!?
His older partners have been Esther and? Who? Gillian? Not exactly one foot in the grave?
In fact. people could argue that Darren has had it worse. Gloria and now Lynda - is it just that he is a better coach?
Look at what he did with Letitia -who was pretty bad to start with.
I hope he does well this year -maybe one of the pros who gets knocked out earlier can help him out with some Latin -like he helps them out with ballroom.”
I think we can assume Darren will be leaving early this year, so maybe he could lend a hand. His choreography is, for me, much stronger than Anton's.
I'm not sure I agree Anton isn't "due" a good partner based on past series. Lesley did well but more by default than anything as there weren't many good celebs. Claire should have gone further than Lesley, but then Lesley should have gone further than Chris! Kate, Jan and Gillian were all awful and I don't really see that someone else would have done any better.
The only a celeb that I think may have been let down by Anton was Patsy- because in the beginning she was doing really well, and even did well in the Rumba. But things deteriorated in the faster latin. Of course you do get celebs that just don't do well at fast latin, but my feeling is she could have done better with more creative routines. (She apparently had problems remembering the steps- maybe that's because the routines weren't memorable?)
For me Anton isn't "due" a good celeb, simply because his choreo/dancing on the latin side don't merit it. I know that sounds harsh and I'm sorry, but professionally speaking you don't get a promotion just because it's your "turn", you get it because you've demonstrated that you have the aptitude for it. And I don't think there's one part of Anton's time on Strictly, either with celeb partners or in the pro routines, that suggests he merits getting a celeb with any potential at latin.
Imagine if Anton had had Rachel. Even Vincent's most imaginative choreography, at times, had people criticising her for being boring. Anton's choreography in the Latin is nowhere near as creative, and it's probably something any experienced user on here could do. I don't want him to have one of the better celebs because he's not one of the pros who gets the best out of their celeb. I'd say that honour goes to Darren, Lilia, previously Camilla, Vincent, Flavia. Possibly a few others. Potentially Kristina but we don't know yet. Edit: Matt C seems to be a good teacher also.
Originally Posted by Psychosis:
“Imagine if Anton had had Rachel. Even Vincent's most imaginative choreography, at times, had people criticising her for being boring. Anton's choreography in the Latin is nowhere near as creative, and it's probably something any experienced user on here could do. I don't want him to have one of the better celebs because he's not one of the pros who gets the best out of their celeb. I'd say that honour goes to Darren, Lilia, previously Camilla, Vincent, Flavia. Possibly a few others. Potentially Kristina but we don't know yet. Edit: Matt C seems to be a good teacher also.”
“Imagine if Anton had had Rachel. Even Vincent's most imaginative choreography, at times, had people criticising her for being boring. Anton's choreography in the Latin is nowhere near as creative, and it's probably something any experienced user on here could do. I don't want him to have one of the better celebs because he's not one of the pros who gets the best out of their celeb. I'd say that honour goes to Darren, Lilia, previously Camilla, Vincent, Flavia. Possibly a few others. Potentially Kristina but we don't know yet. Edit: Matt C seems to be a good teacher also.”
Absolutely. Agree with all of that!
Katie, I know you have said Jan was 'awful' but I think he could have done better with her. I do agree that he doesnt take the Lsatin as seriously as the other pros -and I believe that is demonstrated by the all in one jumpsuits etc.
However, this is not only a diversionary tactic -but probably because he knows Latin isnt his strong point and wants to be the first to seem that he isnt taking it seriously.
I know he loves SCD and it would be a poorer show without him but he isnt due a good celeb at all, mainly for the reasons Psychosis and Katie have stated.
Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“We're not talking professional competition level here.
I'd love Anton to finally do well and imho all he has to do is keep his Latin choreography simple, but make sure it is well executed and he'll be in with a shot if Laila can dance.
We've had Anton's Latin is weak, Anton is getting too old (but not he lies about his age) - who will post his name is really Tony Beak?”
“We're not talking professional competition level here.
I'd love Anton to finally do well and imho all he has to do is keep his Latin choreography simple, but make sure it is well executed and he'll be in with a shot if Laila can dance.
We've had Anton's Latin is weak, Anton is getting too old (but not he lies about his age) - who will post his name is really Tony Beak?
”
Buddy I have to agree with you here.
In spite of my better nature, there is that part of me which feels that if my fave Matt Cutler can't win, then it would be great if Anton finally could - and my feeling is based (wrongly) on pure emotion! If he won, then replaced Bruce as presenter if Strictly ran next year, it would be an appropriate passage from competitor to presenter....and no matter how I try, I still can't find anyone who would be as appropriate to replace Bruce as he is. I loved the "Me and My Shadow" routine they did last year - and it seemed to be a kind of "handing over"! He knows the "soul" of Strictly, and all the viewers know him as part of the whole Strictly scene, and it would be great to see him move on in this way (that IS, if he isn't dancing next year! am being presumptuous!)
For these rather emotive reasons above, I can't help feeling I'd like to see him win if Matt and Martina get knocked out.
Agree with everyone his Latin is not great - but if Laila can dance, and as Buddy says, the choreo is kept simple - it might just be okay.
we shall see! But, if its not Matt's year, I'd kind of like it to be Anton's, yes.
Originally Posted by tangoqueen:
“Buddy I have to agree with you here.
In spite of my better nature, there is that part of me which feels that if my fave Matt Cutler can't win, then it would be great if Anton finally could - and my feeling is based (wrongly) on pure emotion! If he won, then replaced Bruce as presenter if Strictly ran next year, it would be an appropriate passage from competitor to presenter....and no matter how I try, I still can't find anyone who would be as appropriate to replace Bruce as he is. I loved the "Me and My Shadow" routine they did last year - and it seemed to be a kind of "handing over"! He knows the "soul" of Strictly, and all the viewers know him as part of the whole Strictly scene, and it would be great to see him move on in this way (that IS, if he isn't dancing next year! am being presumptuous!)
For these rather emotive reasons above, I can't help feeling I'd like to see him win if Matt and Martina get knocked out.
Agree with everyone his Latin is not great - but if Laila can dance, and as Buddy says, the choreo is kept simple - it might just be okay.
we shall see! But, if its not Matt's year, I'd kind of like it to be Anton's, yes.”
“Buddy I have to agree with you here.
In spite of my better nature, there is that part of me which feels that if my fave Matt Cutler can't win, then it would be great if Anton finally could - and my feeling is based (wrongly) on pure emotion! If he won, then replaced Bruce as presenter if Strictly ran next year, it would be an appropriate passage from competitor to presenter....and no matter how I try, I still can't find anyone who would be as appropriate to replace Bruce as he is. I loved the "Me and My Shadow" routine they did last year - and it seemed to be a kind of "handing over"! He knows the "soul" of Strictly, and all the viewers know him as part of the whole Strictly scene, and it would be great to see him move on in this way (that IS, if he isn't dancing next year! am being presumptuous!)
For these rather emotive reasons above, I can't help feeling I'd like to see him win if Matt and Martina get knocked out.
Agree with everyone his Latin is not great - but if Laila can dance, and as Buddy says, the choreo is kept simple - it might just be okay.
we shall see! But, if its not Matt's year, I'd kind of like it to be Anton's, yes.”
Martina and Matt are the couple I'm looking forward to seeing the most too, followed by Joe and Kristina and I can see myself also voting for Lalia and Anton if they dance well. Such a great line up this year!
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