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Home & Away THREAD (HUGE Spoilers) --- Uncovered! (Part 2)
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ecl
18-09-2009
I think Ollie would go to kane his dad
mirabelle
18-09-2009
oz pace

Spoiler
Some of you wanted to See Liam and Nicole


Spoiler
Monday 5th October - Episode 4956.
Angelo reveals to Charlie the real reason behind his return to Summer Bay. And Nicole and Liams fling becomes more than a one night stand.

Tuesday 6th October - Episode 4957.
Charlie refuses to believe Angelo. Marthas past comes back to haunt her. And Ross arrives back in town for a mysterious reason.

Wednesday 7th October - Episode 4958.
Hugo turns up the pressure on Ruby about her alibi. Romeo cant deny his growing feelings for Annie. Leah and Robertson go on a date.

Thursday 8th October - Episode 4959.
Rachel returns from being away with a plan for the future. Annie is convinced that Romeo is her secret admirer.

Friday 9th October - Episode 4960.
Tony is having trouble dealing with Rachels request to go back to work. Liam and Nicole go on a pseudo-date. Sparks fly when Gina meets John Palmer.


Martha's past hey... could this by the baby storyline? All I can think of when it says that is that drug man with the strip club.
Why does Ruby need an alibi?
tink07
19-09-2009
The way that was written, it sounds like Hugo is the one that is using Ruby as an alibi....like she is covering for him for some reason?

Gina and John Palmer....oo er!
victoria19
19-09-2009
I'm gutted Lincoln Lewis has now filmed his last scenes!!! I really like Geoff!
RileyM
20-09-2009
Originally Posted by miriampotter:
“Changing the subject completely, but with Charlie about to be Rubies mum any day soon, she was raped when she was 16, and Ruby is 16, that makes her 32, and yet in the program, is she not 27, I read here, have they got their sums wrong, or am I in the wrong?”

I think it comes out Charlie was raped aged 14
victoria19
20-09-2009
Originally Posted by RileyM:
“I think it comes out Charlie was raped aged 14”

Yeah Charlie was raped and as a result she had Ruby.
Christa
23-09-2009
Why has this thread disappeared way down...?

Just caught up with this week's events. Great drama with Belle's death & Charlie's secret...
tv_lover_06
23-09-2009
im sad belle is gone now

i feel really sorry for nicole, i think i would like her to get with him way down the line but i think she and liam have some potential too.

hope she and aden stay in the show for a long time to come
Ami09x
23-09-2009
I think the whole charlie/ruby storyline has been brilliant, very tearjerking stuff i feel so sorry for charlie
tv_lover_06
23-09-2009
i have to say iv missed a ton of that storyline but we're a little bit behind - will try catch it online or something
miriampotter
23-09-2009
Hello

Today we learnt that Charlie had the baby 16 years ago, and that Ruby is the baby that was 16 years ago, the whole thing is a farce, Charlie is 27 years old, I know that soaps time, is not always the same as ours, but they are missing out years here, if people had a child the way she did, would they really be comfortable having them in front of them, day in day out, reminding them of what happened, which in effect is what Ruby is doing each time, without knowing it, the script writers, must think we are think and stupid to believe this.

I really hope the story line does improve.
Thumbolina
23-09-2009
Originally Posted by miriampotter:
“Hello

Today we learnt that Charlie had the baby 16 years ago, and that Ruby is the baby that was 16 years ago, the whole thing is a farce, Charlie is 27 years old, I know that soaps time, is not always the same as ours, but they are missing out years here, if people had a child the way she did, would they really be comfortable having them in front of them, day in day out, reminding them of what happened, which in effect is what Ruby is doing each time, without knowing it, the script writers, must think we are think and stupid to believe this.

I really hope the story line does improve.”

Way back in the 50s and earlier there was such stigma on girls having a baby out of wedlock that often the grandparents brought up the child pretending they were it's parents, not grandparents. OK, sixteen years ago, 1993, attitudes had changed somewhat but the point I'm making is that grandparents pretending to be a child's parents is not uncommon, even now.

The script writers are using a scenario that has been played out many, many times in real life.

I thought Charlie was thirty, this would fit in time wise. How do you know she is 27?
jagged_death
24-09-2009
Originally Posted by Ami09x:
“I think the whole charlie/ruby storyline has been brilliant, very tearjerking stuff i feel so sorry for charlie”

I think its been awful and contrived, its plucked out of nowhere and they have changed Charlie's age to fit it. Plus there is the hideous presence of the horrible Angelo to ruin it further. Rebecca Breeds have been great though but she is the only good thing about the storyline, well that and the fact that Esther/Rebecca generally do a good job together despite EA OTT acting in other places.
Cloud9
24-09-2009
Originally Posted by mirabelle:
“oz pace

Martha's past hey... could this by the baby storyline? All I can think of when it says that is that drug man with the strip club.
Why does Ruby need an alibi?”

Still not quite sure if should be hiding spoilers but I have just in case ..

Spoiler
Yes her pole dancing past does come back to haunt her. She goes for a seat on the council to oppose John Palmer and soon after pictures of her wild hey days appear as part of a smear campaign.
NWScots
24-09-2009
Originally Posted by miriampotter:
“Hello

Today we learnt that Charlie had the baby 16 years ago, and that Ruby is the baby that was 16 years ago, the whole thing is a farce, Charlie is 27 years old, I know that soaps time, is not always the same as ours, but they are missing out years here, if people had a child the way she did, would they really be comfortable having them in front of them, day in day out, reminding them of what happened, which in effect is what Ruby is doing each time, without knowing it, the script writers, must think we are think and stupid to believe this.

I really hope the story line does improve.”

Originally Posted by Thumbolina:
“Way back in the 50s and earlier there was such stigma on girls having a baby out of wedlock that often the grandparents brought up the child pretending they were it's parents, not grandparents. OK, sixteen years ago, 1993, attitudes had changed somewhat but the point I'm making is that grandparents pretending to be a child's parents is not uncommon, even now.

The script writers are using a scenario that has been played out many, many times in real life.

I thought Charlie was thirty, this would fit in time wise. How do you know she is 27?”

I actually know someone who was brought up by his grandparents and viewed his mother as his sister - she got pregnant at a young age too. I think the explanation they gave about Charlie going away to stay with her aunt and then realising that Ruby had bonded so well with Ross and his wife was actually quite a good element to throw in. The thing about Ruby being around as a reminder is something I think that they thought would fade as Charlie came to love her. Mothers love and all that....

Originally Posted by jagged_death:
“I think its been awful and contrived, its plucked out of nowhere and they have changed Charlie's age to fit it. Plus there is the hideous presence of the horrible Angelo to ruin it further. Rebecca Breeds have been great though but she is the only good thing about the storyline, well that and the fact that Esther/Rebecca generally do a good job together despite EA OTT acting in other places.”

Can someone please tell me when they stated on the show that Charlie was 27? I can only remember reading it on here when people were discussing how old the characters were when Nicole appeared and people were trying to work out how old Roman was. All things considered, I think the storyline is not a bad one and Rebecca Breeds has been doing a great job. Shame about Xavier ruining some of her scenes! Not minded Angelo either but agree that Esther Anderson is not the most fantastic dramatic actress ever. Mind you, thought Belle's final scenes were a bit OTT with all the shaky voice and half-closed eyes carry on so maybe I just don't do well with these kinds of things!
mirabelle
24-09-2009
Am I the only one who thinks Charlie has either had too much botox, struggles with crying, struggles with emotion or is a crap actress. She does that stupid face when she is crying or disgusted or hurt erg
stars at night
24-09-2009
Originally Posted by mirabelle:
“Am I the only one who thinks Charlie has either had too much botox, struggles with crying, struggles with emotion or is a crap actress. She does that stupid face when she is crying or disgusted or hurt erg”

Nope, you're not the only one! I like the character and sometimes Esther Anderson is quite good, usually when she's in angry mode, but her "distressed" acting ain't that great. Her mouth always seems to be set in the same expression and the crying doesn't seem to come too naturally. Also, has anyone else noticed how thin she's become? In the Fiver episode yesterday she had a black vest on and grey-ish trousers and she looked so skinny. I know she was never exactly huge but she looks to be going down the Jessica Tovey route and just about disappearing.
tink07
24-09-2009
I can't believe how sad Belle's last two eps were, I cried my eyes out lol!

Gutted about Lincoln leaving, anybody know why he is? Guess Aden in pretty much the only all round totty left now!

Esther Anderson has been really hit and miss acting wise, sometimes she's really good, yet more so is she awful!

And it was never stated Charlie is 27, it's just what her estimated age was reckoned to be! And it's not like it's the first time they've aged a character to fit in a story! They did it to Martha! She should only be 20 now but they aged her when they brought her in to involve her with Tasha/Robbie/Kim, and so then they had to add a couple years onto Duncan's age when he came back too!
NWScots
24-09-2009
Originally Posted by tink07:
“I can't believe how sad Belle's last two eps were, I cried my eyes out lol!

Gutted about Lincoln leaving, anybody know why he is? Guess Aden in pretty much the only all round totty left now!

Esther Anderson has been really hit and miss acting wise, sometimes she's really good, yet more so is she awful!

And it was never stated Charlie is 27, it's just what her estimated age was reckoned to be! And it's not like it's the first time they've aged a character to fit in a story! They did it to Martha! She should only be 20 now but they aged her when they brought her in to involve her with Tasha/Robbie/Kim, and so then they had to add a couple years onto Duncan's age when he came back too!”

That's what I thought.

Agree about Belle's last scenes being really sad but for me it was more to do with the others around her and how they reacted. Todd Lasance did a really good job, I especially liked the scene after the funeral when he was yelling at Nicole about comforting him. Powerful and entirely believable.
*JoJo*
24-09-2009
I have missed SO much of Home and Away!! I am very ashamed to admit that I haven't watched it since it came back from summer break, have missed the Charlie and Ruby and the Belle storylines! How bad is that?!!! Really must make more of an effort to watch, tho it looks like i've avoided all the sad bits which is good as I do tend to cry lots!
NIKKID
24-09-2009
After her real lifescandal, is it confirmed that Martha is staying in Summer Bay?
jagged_death
24-09-2009
Originally Posted by tink07:
“I can't believe how sad Belle's last two eps were, I cried my eyes out lol!

Gutted about Lincoln leaving, anybody know why he is? Guess Aden in pretty much the only all round totty left now!

Esther Anderson has been really hit and miss acting wise, sometimes she's really good, yet more so is she awful!

And it was never stated Charlie is 27, it's just what her estimated age was reckoned to be! And it's not like it's the first time they've aged a character to fit in a story! They did it to Martha! She should only be 20 now but they aged her when they brought her in to involve her with Tasha/Robbie/Kim, and so then they had to add a couple years onto Duncan's age when he came back too!”

Yes they did state Charlie was 27 in the episode where she went on the date with Roman.

I don't care for Lincoln or Geoff that much but I only wish it was Luke that is leaving as he is a tragically limited actor.

EA has been awful for weeks now since Wart trundled back into town and they started this ridiclous plot with Ruby being her kid.

Cokey Gordon is staying put to serve out her new 3 year contract. Her and Hugo are great compared to Charlie/Wart so I guess I don't mind Barfa much now. I hope Hugo stays as its probably him that makes Martha tolerable.
georgie1472
24-09-2009
Originally Posted by tink07:
“Gutted about Lincoln leaving, anybody know why he is? Guess Aden in pretty much the only all round totty left now!”


Well Aden will be gone before Geoff I think! Lincoln is in a film in Sydney - bigger and better things I guess!
ukdiva23
24-09-2009
Originally Posted by georgie1472:
“Well Aden will be gone before Geoff I think! Lincoln is in a film in Sydney - bigger and better things I guess!”

Yeah, i don't hold out much hope for Todd sticking around much longer. I reckon after the big storyline he'll be outta there.
SammieSquirrel
24-09-2009
Originally Posted by jagged_death:
“Yes they did state Charlie was 27 in the episode where she went on the date with Roman. .”

So she's 28 then?

Originally Posted by jagged_death:
“I don't care for Lincoln or Geoff that much but I only wish it was Luke that is leaving as he is a tragically limited actor.

EA has been awful for weeks now since Wart trundled back into town and they started this ridiclous plot with Ruby being her kid.


Cokey Gordon is staying put to serve out her new 3 year contract. Her and Hugo are great compared to Charlie/Wart so I guess I don't mind Barfa much now. I hope Hugo stays as its probably him that makes Martha tolerable.”

You're not gonna like this jagged but I thought the way Angelo's acted through this storyline has been great.
Especially his scene with Ruby.
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