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Old 29-08-2009, 14:06
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Jeff didn't do any smart moves without America's help.
What smart moves did he do without America helping him..
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Old 29-08-2009, 14:37
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Jeff didn't do any smart moves without America's help.
What smart moves did he do without America helping him..
Exactly.. Im not even totally convinced that he wasnt told to put up Jessie and Natalie by the producers.

To his credit, Jeff does have the blood of the two biggest competitors on his hands. It just makes the fact that the little geeky underdog that he treated like shit beat him that makes it even more satisfying.

I hope Michele makes the final two. I just dont see how she could win now. Whilst i'm thrilled shes safe, Natalie and Kevin can now get out of this week looking more comfortable. Hopefully they stab Jordan in the back soon, because I think JJ would vote for Natalie over Michele.
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Old 29-08-2009, 14:50
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Exactly.. Im not even totally convinced that he wasnt told to put up Jessie and Natalie by the producers.

To his credit, Jeff does have the blood of the two biggest competitors on his hands......

Jeff was talking about getting Jessie out long before he had the power to do so, this fact probably spurred the voters to favour him with the Coup d'Etat.

It all started to unravel for him from the moment he decided to evict Lydia and keep Natalie. He revealed a total absence of any strategic vision. Not to mention he was handicapped by Jordan's personal antipathy towards Russell. Her constant whispering in his ear only served to fuel his testosterone driven paranoia.

Oh well.
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Old 29-08-2009, 14:53
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Jeff was talking about getting Jessie out long before he had the power to do so, this fact probably spurred the voters to favour him with the Coup d'Etat.

It all started to unravel for him from the moment he decided to evict Lydia and keep Natalie. He revealed a total absence of any strategic vision. Not to mention he was handicapped by Jordan's personal antipathy towards Russell. Her constant whispering in his ear only served to fuel his testosterone driven paranoia.

Oh well.
I agree that evicting Lydia was a stupid move on everyones behalf. She was absolutely useless and to emotional to play any sort of game. Natalie is also useless, but she is far more composed than Lydia ever was. She has done a great job of pulling the wool over their eyes.
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Old 29-08-2009, 14:53
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Both of them will take the other out next week, if they can.
I think Michelle will go after Nat next week if she can.
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Old 29-08-2009, 15:00
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I think Michelle will go after Nat next week if she can.
And me, though I think her top priority should be to just win HoH. The problem is, if she wins HoH, nobody will be going after Natalie who will automatically go to the Top 3. Jordan would evict Kevin and Kevin would evict Jordan.

The only way Natalie is leaving next week is if Jordan wins HoH and Michele gets veto, then Natalie is toast. I think Michele is the only person after Natalie now.
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Old 29-08-2009, 15:00
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I think Michelle will go after Nat next week if she can.
You may be right, it just depends on which one of them Michelle thinks she can beat with the Jury. But both Kevin and Natalie will certainly take her out next week if they can. However, I make Michelle the red hot favourite to win any competition against Natalie and Jordan, so she should be safe as HoH next week at least.
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Old 29-08-2009, 15:04
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Possible Scenario's Next Week:

* Just to note, if the HoH wins the veto, they dont get the eviction vote, the non-nominee gets it.

Michele HoH
Michele wins veto (likely to be Jordan voting) - Kevin evicted.
Jordan wins veto - Kevin evicted
Natalie wins veto - Jordan evicted
Kevin wins veto - Jordan evicted

Natalie HoH
Michele wins veto - Kevin evicted
Jordan wins veto - ??? Really not sure here
Natalie wins veto (likely to be Kevin voting) - Michele evicted
Kevin wins veto - ??? Not sure here either

Jordan HoH
Michele wins veto - Natalie evicted
Jordan wins veto - Who knows.. I dont know who she'd keep off the block
Natalie wins veto - Michele evicted
Kevin wins veto - Michele evicted
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Old 29-08-2009, 15:04
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Only way for Natalie to be evicted next week is if Jordan wins HoH and then Michele wins veto.
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Old 29-08-2009, 15:08
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And me, though I think her top priority should be to just win HoH. The problem is, if she wins HoH, nobody will be going after Natalie who will automatically go to the Top 3. Jordan would evict Kevin and Kevin would evict Jordan.

The only way Natalie is leaving next week is if Jordan wins HoH and Michele gets veto, then Natalie is toast. I think Michele is the only person after Natalie now.
If Michelle wins HoH as I'm very sure she will, then Natalie is absolutely safe as well. If Michelle then won the veto, there is no one upon whom she could use it, who would evict Natalie.
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Old 29-08-2009, 15:17
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Possible Scenario's Next Week:

* Just to note, if the HoH wins the veto, they dont get the eviction vote, the non-nominee mindset: after the PoV ceremony gets it.

Michele HoH
Michele wins veto (likely to be Jordan voting) - Kevin evicted.
Jordan wins veto - Kevin evicted
Natalie wins veto - Jordan evicted
Kevin wins veto - Jordan evicted

Natalie HoH
Michele wins veto - Kevin evicted
Jordan wins veto - ??? Really not sure here mindset: Kevin evicted
Natalie wins veto (likely to be Kevin voting) - Michele evicted
Kevin wins veto - ??? Not sure here either mindset: Michelle evicted

Jordan HoH
Michele wins veto - Natalie evicted
Jordan wins veto - Who knows.. I dont know who she'd keep off the block mindset: Probabably Natalie: Michelle evicted
Natalie wins veto - Michele evicted
Kevin wins veto - Michele evicted
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Old 29-08-2009, 15:24
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Apologies for the graffitti on your post lol
No worries Im somebody filled in the gaps for me

Looking extremely likely that Natale is in the final 3 then..
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Old 29-08-2009, 15:35
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Something good finally happened in the game this season. Michelle winning POV ending Jeff going home.

BB couldn't overcome Jeff's stupidity in this game. Hence why they didn't try and rig POV for him.
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Old 29-08-2009, 15:38
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Soooo happy Michele won! Veto Queen this season!

Natalie said she "destroyed" them! Can't wait to see Tuesday's episode.
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Old 29-08-2009, 15:59
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Despite the fact that Natalie has played a very good game (albeit J&J's stupidity helped), I hate the fact that she is almost certain for F3. I certainly hope that's as far as she gets though, gawd forbid she makes the Final.
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Old 29-08-2009, 16:01
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Something good finally happened in the game this season. Michelle winning POV ending Jeff going home.

BB couldn't overcome Jeff's stupidity in this game. Hence why they didn't try and rig POV for him.
Exactly. I dont mind somebody unintelligent winning the game. At the end of the day its a social game just as much as it is strategy. The problem is, Jeff sucked at both aspects. He had no long-term strategy, and has alligned himself with all the wrong people. If America hadnt helped him out, he and Jordan would have been long gone and Jessie would be sitting pretty waiting to win.
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Old 29-08-2009, 16:02
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Despite the fact that she has played a very good game (albeit J&J's stupidity helped), I hate the fact that Natalie is almost certain for F3. I certainly hope that's as far as she gets though, gawd forbid she makes the Final.
I agree, its a horrible feeling. I hate Natalie, but she has totally played the best game this season. I wish she was even slightly likeable so I could be happy for her, but now I just resent her sailing into the finals over people I like.
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Old 29-08-2009, 16:04
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Exactly. I dont mind somebody unintelligent winning the game. At the end of the day its a social game just as much as it is strategy. The problem is, Jeff sucked at both aspects. He had no long-term strategy, and has alligned himself with all the wrong people. If America hadnt helped him out, he and Jordan would have been long gone and Jessie would be sitting pretty waiting to win.
I believe Natalie and Chima would've dealt with Jessie easily enough.
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Old 29-08-2009, 16:07
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I believe Natalie and Chima would've dealt with Jessie easily enough.
Do you think? I dont know.. I think that would have been their final three if they had their way. Had the coup not taken place, and they had then won every HoH I think they'd have gotten rid of Russell, then Jordan/Jeff/Michele and then Lydia and Kevin. I think only then would Chima have gone for Jessie.. I think Natalie would have quite happily let Jessie and Chima fight to the death knowing she would go through with them.

What an awful season that would have been mind.. Jessie, Chima and Natalie final 3
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Old 29-08-2009, 16:12
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I think Michelle is the only one that might get rid of Natalie. No way in hell would she want to be sitting next to her at the end. I think taking Kevin is her best bet.
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Old 29-08-2009, 16:17
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I think Michelle is the only one that might get rid of Natalie. No way in hell would she want to be sitting next to her at the end. I think taking Kevin is her best bet.
I'd like to think Jessie is going to be a fair juror. He hinted in the last episode that he'd vote for Jeff to win if he got to the final 2, so hopefully he'd vote on gameplay.

How would Kevin-Mich go?

America - Michele
Russell - Michele
Natalie - Kevin
Lydia - Kevin
Jessie - ?
Jordan - ?
Jeff - ?

I think if that did happen, Jeff and Jordan might possibly get their legs twisted to vote for Michele, especially if she wins America's vote. The producers would love it if America's vote was the deciding one.
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Old 29-08-2009, 16:47
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If it was Michelle and Kevin i think it would go like this:

America - Michelle
Jessie: Kevin - getting Jeff out would be help in this vote.
Lydia: Kevin - Her sugarbear
Russell - Kevin - Same with Jessie, getting out Jeff seals it.
Jeff: Tough one i say he would go for Kevin - after it is revealed how Kevin and Nat played strategically even without power. [Jeff is slow with that part atm ]
Natalie: Kevin
Jordan: It would depend how she was evicted.

Either way i think Kevin would have 4 votes solid in f2. Natalie would be very persuasive for Kev's cause.
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Old 29-08-2009, 17:01
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I reckon if Michelle gets to F2 with Kevin he would have only 2 votes: Natalie and Lydia. But Michelle is such a horrible speaker, there's every chance she could blow it during Jury questions.
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Old 29-08-2009, 17:06
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I'd love a Kevin & Michele final. Both have kept the most level heads and still played good games. It would be good for the High School theme too that the outcasts, the Offbeat and the Brain, pulled through.

I'm just hoping this pandora's box doesn't save Jeff. Even if Natalie got evicted as a result of it.
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Old 29-08-2009, 17:26
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Michele winning the Veto <3!!!

It couldn't have gone more perfectly. Brilliant. I think Michele has a great shot at Final 2 now, she'll be competing against Natalie and Jordan in HoH next week, so her chances are high of winning that. Then that secures her Final 3 spot and I like her odds at winning that.

It's funny how the final four will be represented by one of each clique Jordan (Popular), Michele (Brain), Natalie (Athlete), Kevin (Offbeat). Bet Grodner loves that.

And it means we either get another female winner finally or if Kevin wins, we get the first ever gay winner of BBUSA.
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