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Old 19-10-2009, 21:34   #3301
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Slightly concerned by how much they're emphasising the British aspect of things - if there wasn't a Brit in contention for the championship, would they just have stopped the quali coverage? Would have upset lots of hardcore F1 fans!
They don't mention it that much apart from near the end.

Regarding your second bit about stopping it, it is worded slightly vaguely, however I think it is intended to be like this:

"The qualifying session was one of the longest ever undertaken in Formula One's history lasting almost three hours and we felt that it was important to stay with the coverage [on BBC One for as long as possible] as it was critical in context of the world championship, particularly for the then hopeful, Jenson Button."

I think, otherwise, the argument may have not had many legs to stand on.
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Old 19-10-2009, 21:36   #3302
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Just a quick note that Eurosport will show World Superbikes in HD (at least for the european rounds) untill atleast 2012. I count that as news considering how far apart the two sides were during the negotiations in the summer. The Flaminni brothers have learned from Dorna's mistake and will not repeat it. Every race will be broadcasted and archived online.
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Old 19-10-2009, 21:36   #3303
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Wrong.

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldcloc...0&sec=0&p1=136

On 14th November next year, 6pm here will be 4pm in Sao Paolo.

Last year when the race was on 1st November, the race started at 5pm here which was 3pm there, I think Bernie lodged with race officials to get it moved from 2pm into 3pm and thus more into primetime.

A 2pm start there on 14th November next year would be a 4pm start here as there would only be a two hour time difference - thus it'd be finished at 5:30pm, which isn't really primetime....

I'm not sure what time sunset is in the middle of November is for Brazil as to whether a 4pm start time there is actually realistic...
I stand corrected.

In light of the above, I think we are looking at another 5pm start (3pm local) although looking at the sunset times, a 4pm local (6pm/7pm CET) start is not outwith the realms of possibility.

http://www.timeanddate.com/worldcloc...&afl=-11&day=1

Sunset is 1928 local.

I think Bernie realises that a 6pm (7pm in Europe) start is too much of an imposition on broadcasters as it limits their ability to show other primetime programming after the Grand Prix has concluded. 5pm is probably a good compromise.

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Old 19-10-2009, 22:03   #3304
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Don't forget the UK daylight savings is in the mix too. Wouldn't that move us closer to Brazil?
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Old 19-10-2009, 22:07   #3305
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Don't forget the UK daylight savings is in the mix too. Wouldn't that move us closer to Brazil?
It'd just be the exact same situation as last year's race which was 3pm there, 5pm here.
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Old 19-10-2009, 22:23   #3306
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Incidentally, is there a proper, wallpaper sized version of that Jenson Button, Master of the Universe caption used at the start of the vid?
Yes I want one too. I'm using a 1024x576 screencap on a 1680x1050 monitor and it does look a little iffy.

Anyone know the music used during the same montage please?

EDIT: Not listed yet, but a handy link... http://kjs.me.uk/cms/index.php/f1-music
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Old 19-10-2009, 22:39   #3307
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Yes I want one too. I'm using a 1024x576 screencap on a 1680x1050 monitor and it does look a little iffy.

Anyone know the music used during the same montage please?

EDIT: Not listed yet, but a handy link... http://kjs.me.uk/cms/index.php/f1-music
Thank for the link Dave, that's great.

I was going to post this one - http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/forum/topic.php?id=454 But they don't seem to know the track you're after either!

They do seem very good at picking the right music for the right moment, the Embrace track on the Button/Brawn montage for example.

EDIT: You could try asking here - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tv_a...io/7910960.stm

btw, does anyone know where Practice Three (Brazil) is on the BBC site? Wish they'd get a proper section for it all!
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Old 19-10-2009, 23:03   #3308
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Old 19-10-2009, 23:18   #3309
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Thank for the link Dave, that's great.

I was going to post this one - http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/forum/topic.php?id=454 But they don't seem to know the track you're after either!

They do seem very good at picking the right music for the right moment, the Embrace track on the Button/Brawn montage for example.

EDIT: You could try asking here - http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tv_a...io/7910960.stm

btw, does anyone know where Practice Three (Brazil) is on the BBC site? Wish they'd get a proper section for it all!
I dont think they ever upload FP3 which is a shame, ive watched every session upto this weekend but missed FP3 as i was at the match and didnt get back in until 5.15pm (just for qualy). Ive not even seen Grojseans (sp?) incident yet...
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Old 19-10-2009, 23:37   #3310
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If Andrew chooses either 1997 or 1998 Canada, they will not have ITV commentary. Yes, Allen isn't included in those two races, but neither was Brundle - Brundle was not alongside Walker for those two races.
can you please stop making these statements of fact which are not fact, they are your opinion

BBC object to using Allen's commentary because he is branded as being the voice of ITV F1, this is not an issue with stand in commentators.
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Old 20-10-2009, 08:10   #3311
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can you please stop making these statements of fact which are not fact, they are your opinion

BBC object to using Allen's commentary because he is branded as being the voice of ITV F1, this is not an issue with stand in commentators.
Actually the BBC have specifically said that they don't use commentary by non-employees.

It will be interesting to see what happens
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Old 20-10-2009, 09:28   #3312
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Actually the BBC have specifically said that they don't use commentary by non-employees.
When have they said that?
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Old 20-10-2009, 09:29   #3313
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Ive not even seen Grojseans (sp?) incident yet...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZVwR9VjYNo
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Old 20-10-2009, 10:31   #3314
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When have they said that?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/andrewben...n_grand_p.html

"The reason the edits from the ITV era take longer to produce is that it has been decided that we will only use BBC commentary (or commentary by people the BBC have employed) on these edits. So any race following Murray Walker's retirement in 2001 until ITV lost the rights at the end of last season has to be matched with commentary from Radio 5 Live."
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Old 20-10-2009, 11:49   #3315
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/moto...ne/8315951.stm

LIVE: Jenson Button's News Conference soon.
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Old 20-10-2009, 11:55   #3316
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Did Hamilton have a news conference a few days after his title win?
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Old 20-10-2009, 12:18   #3317
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[url]"The reason the edits from the ITV era take longer to produce is that it has been decided that we will only use BBC commentary (or commentary by people the BBC have employed) on these edits. So any race following Murray Walker's retirement in 2001 until ITV lost the rights at the end of last season has to be matched with commentary from Radio 5 Live."
so reading that, any race before 2001 will carry murray's commentary.
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Old 20-10-2009, 14:25   #3318
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Any official word on if Abu-Dhabi will be in HD or not yet?
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Old 20-10-2009, 15:29   #3319
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Breaking News, and very bad news for Freeview guys: http://www.bbc.co.uk/pressoffice/pre...freeview.shtml

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The BBC is committed to launching HD broadcast channels on Freeview which involves rearranging the existing standard definition channels on that platform.

Part of this new arrangement involves switching off two of the three interactive streams it uses on Freeview to deliver Red Button content.

The switch off happens on the 27 October but Freeview viewers will still be able to see sport, music and entertainment on the remaining interactive stream.

Viewers will no longer see the BBC News Multiscreen and for other content including sport and music there will be less repeats with content played out in smaller blocks of time.
This means that there will now only be one F1 Red Button stream on Freeview, which will most likely only be highlights.

And if another sporting event clashes with F1, it means that the other sporting event will most likely take the only remaining channel, and thus F1 won't be on there.

EDIT: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/pressred/...freeview.shtml
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Old 20-10-2009, 15:30   #3320
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Any official word on if Abu-Dhabi will be in HD or not yet?
To quote Arius:

"Certainly nobody I know with FOM connections has ever mentioned Abu Dhabi in HD to me.

They aren't expecting to be doing HD next season either, at least not normally."

That's as official as we have so far.
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Old 20-10-2009, 16:14   #3321
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Does the BBC "Equality of Service" now kick in and mess it up on Satellite also? It doesn't look that way from the tone of the article.

Looks like all those who were going to have to get Freesat for (unlikely) HD now have to get it for Onboards.

(I recommend a Satellite card in a PC - the right software allows Picture-in-picture of the On-board channel.)

I wonder after analogue switch-off, will they relaunch the interactives?
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Old 20-10-2009, 16:49   #3322
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I hope they do as where I am goes digital next week
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Old 20-10-2009, 17:06   #3323
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so reading that, any race before 2001 will carry murray's commentary.
Somehow I don't think that Andrew Benson even realises that some races between 1997 and 2001 didn't have Brundle commentating.

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Any official word on if Abu-Dhabi will be in HD or not yet?
According to: http://www.bbchdfoirequest.blogspot.....html#comments

A response will be put on there from that guy's FOI request tomorrow:

"The BBC HD department has now provided me with the relevant information and we are currently reviewing that information. I anticipate being in a position to provide you with a full response by Wednesday 21 October, at the latest."

Co-incidence that BBC Press Office happens to update/amend its schedules tomorrow?
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Old 20-10-2009, 17:37   #3324
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I dont think they ever upload FP3 which is a shame, ive watched every session upto this weekend but missed FP3 as i was at the match and didnt get back in until 5.15pm (just for qualy). Ive not even seen Grojseans (sp?) incident yet...
Thanks, I wanted to see the beginning. The FOM intro didn't appear straight away and we got a placeholder instead (just for about two seconds), I wanted to see what it said....that sounds so geeky!
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