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1st September - Still no (meaningful) firmware update!!
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timp
02-09-2009
you wait, there'll be a new box announced before this one gets a firmware upgrade. I'll have had mine a year before then. Don't get me started on the stupid 3.00 am housekeeping - keeps waking me up and it can't be disabled unlike my Panny telly.
Unsupported product.
Automan
07-10-2009
Originally Posted by timp:
“you wait, there'll be a new box announced before this one gets a firmware upgrade.”

You were correct!

Automan.
Nigel Goodwin
07-10-2009
Originally Posted by Automan:
“You were correct!”

Has one actually been 'announced'? - certainly one will have been in development since the relase of the previous one (and possibly before) - but have Humax 'announced' it?.
Everything Goes
07-10-2009
Originally Posted by Nigel Goodwin:
“Has one actually been 'announced'? - certainly one will have been in development since the relase of the previous one (and possibly before) - but have Humax 'announced' it?.”

The new Humax Freesat PVR will be out in 2010

http://blog.wotsat.com/page/whatsat?...eesat_receiver
carvell
08-10-2009
Buggers.
Tern
08-10-2009
Originally Posted by carvell:
“Buggers.”

Why?

Bugs notwithstanding, the current Humax box does exactly what people bought it for.

There's nothing of an electronic nature you can buy that you will not find superceded by a more up to date version at some point. (Unless you've just bought a tape walkman )
jwball
08-10-2009
Originally Posted by timp:
“you wait, there'll be a new box announced before this one gets a firmware upgrade. I'll have had mine a year before then. Don't get me started on the stupid 3.00 am housekeeping - keeps waking me up and it can't be disabled unlike my Panny telly.
Unsupported product.”

Can't understand this, my box is silent?
richard_g_uk
08-10-2009
Originally Posted by jwball:
“Can't understand this, my box is silent?”

So is mine. It's never woken me up and I sleep about 4 feet away from the box.

The only thing that annoys me at night is the really bright display. If only there was a brightness control for it (we can hope for one in the next firmware update)
Automan
08-10-2009
Originally Posted by richard_g_uk:
“So is mine. It's never woken me up and I sleep about 4 feet away from the box.

The only thing that annoys me at night is the really bright display. If only there was a brightness control for it (we can hope for one in the next firmware update)”

The one in my bedroom has a piece of cardboard in front of the display panel.

The remote still works so perhaps for some the display is a waste of money (both in box production cost and energy consumption when lit).

It has never woke me up either unlike my old Daewoo freeview box which used to spinup and down the hard drive several times at 3am

One thing the Daewoo and the Humax have in common - they never got any new firmware

Automan.
pizzajohn
08-10-2009
Originally Posted by Everything Goes:
“The new Humax Freesat PVR will be out in 2010

http://blog.wotsat.com/page/whatsat?...eesat_receiver”

Only the title mentions Freesat. The bulk of the text relates to Freeview.

The statement. in the last paragraph, "[COLOR=#453f3f]Freesat[/COLOR] are really keen to see this kind of technology in products. This is a natural progression of the MP3 players and picture viewers in our previous models", could mean that they'd like to see the functions, developed for these new Freesat boxes incorporated into future Freesat boxes.

In http://blog.wotsat.com/page/whatsat?...ew_hd_receiver the same guy at the same conference is quoted on Freeview only.

Again, http://www.techradar.com/news/home-c...r-outed-634923 only speaks of Freeview.

Is it therefore possible that "What Satellite & Digital TV.." got wrong and a replacemnet for our Foxsat HDR's is not so near?

PJ
froxfieldrover
09-10-2009
Originally Posted by Automan:
“One thing the Daewoo and the Humax have in common - they never got any new firmware

Automan.”

Ah yes but we are promised software.. soon.. not much longer to wait now..

Patrick
JohnON
09-10-2009
Originally Posted by Tern:
“Why?

Bugs notwithstanding, the current Humax box does exactly what people bought it for.

There's nothing of an electronic nature you can buy that you will not find superceded by a more up to date version at some point. (Unless you've just bought a tape walkman )”

I think the following quote says why people buy Freesat over Freeview:

[James Atkins, Freesat marketing manager] said: "What we've tried to do is spec our boxes so that they should still be state of the art in four or five years time." It is something no Freeview box on the market can plausibly claim, and sounds like an honest, public service aim. Freesat poses itself as a relatively "future proof" solution, therefore saving consumers money over several years. Additionally, the service could become something of an insurance policy to Freeview's potential instability during and after switchover.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/digitalt...ure-proof.html

After the next firmware update, not many people would bet against the current Humax box being all but abandoned.

John.
Tern
09-10-2009
Originally Posted by JohnON:
“After the next firmware update, not many people would bet against the current Humax box being all but abandoned.”

No other hard goods manufacturer is expected to continually enhance a product without any return in revenue.

All we can reasonably ask of them is that they fix the bugs.

That's the reason that a lot of people are annoyed at their playing silly beggars and forcing an iplayer update on us when they haven't fixed the bugs.
JohnON
09-10-2009
With the effort going into the unnecessary and largely unwanted iPlayer, I'd bet that most of the current bugs will still be with us after the update (when it eventually comes). I'd also bet the update will be the last one the current box sees.

In other words, live with the bugs or buy the new box. Hardly future proof.

John.
Tern
09-10-2009
Originally Posted by JohnON:
“With the effort going into the unnecessary and largely unwanted iPlayer, I'd bet that most of the current bugs will still be with us after the update (when it eventually comes). I'd also bet the update will be the last one the current box sees.

In other words, live with the bugs or buy the new box. Hardly future proof.”

If Humax leave this box with a long list of bugs they will do even more damage to their reputation that they've managed already by delaying the bug fixes for the best part of a year.

That doesn't mean it won't happen but it would be very short sighted of Humax to take that path.

I wonder how many of those who've been saying they are happy to wait until Humax can come up with an update that corrects the problems properly would still be so laid back if the update leaves a lot unfixed and Humax then drop the box.
Nigel Goodwin
09-10-2009
Originally Posted by JohnON:
“[James Atkins, Freesat marketing manager] said: "What we've tried to do is spec our boxes so that they should still be state of the art in four or five years time." It is something no Freeview box on the market can plausibly claim, and sounds like an honest, public service aim. Freesat poses itself as a relatively "future proof" solution, therefore saving consumers money over several years.”

What a load of rubbish! - they weren't state of the art when they came out
froxfieldrover
09-10-2009
If the update fixes the bugs - improves the interface a bit AND gives us home network capability, as on the new model, then I am sure that I would be able to use the product for another 3 years (provided Freesat are still around!).

Is that too much to ask?

Patrick
swedish cook
09-10-2009
Originally Posted by froxfieldrover:
“If the update ... AND gives us home network capability,...”

They already clarified that it will not allow other devices, PCs etc to play recordings on the HDR disk over the network. They also stated that the reverse, playing video from your PC disk on the HDR is theoretically possible if you have the right software on the PC (an MHEG application).

They have repeatedly failed to confirm or deny FTP which is (a) easy for them (b) extremely useful for us to avoid that USB faff. Makes me think it will not be enabled.
Everything Goes
09-10-2009
Originally Posted by Tern:
“No other hard goods manufacturer is expected to continually enhance a product without any return in revenue.

All we can reasonably ask of them is that they fix the bugs.

That's the reason that a lot of people are annoyed at their playing silly beggars and forcing an iplayer update on us when they haven't fixed the bugs.”

I believe Bob Cat said the forthcoming update will be the last update. After this they will only do Major Bug Fixes after this if required.

Its fair to assume the engineers will be working on another product thereafter.
Tern
09-10-2009
Originally Posted by Everything Goes:
“I believe Bob Cat said the forthcoming update will be the last update. After this they will only do Major Bug Fixes after this if required.”

Bob_Cat was the one who said they would be issuing a bug fix release before they did the iplayer.

He can only tell us what the Humax high ups are saying at the moment and they are clearly capable of changing their minds.

If they get the first update right then there is no real need for further updates.

If they leave a great wodge of the bugs unfixed then they will severely damage their reputation because that fact will be brought up whenever someone recommends one of their products, for a long time to come.
Everything Goes
09-10-2009
Originally Posted by Tern:
“Bob_Cat was the one who said they would be issuing a bug fix release before they did the iplayer.

He can only tell us what the Humax high ups are saying at the moment and they are clearly capable of changing their minds.

If they get the first update right then there is no real need for further updates.

If they leave a great wodge of the bugs unfixed then they will severely damage their reputation because that fact will be brought up whenever someone recommends one of their products, for a long time to come.”

I suspect their reputation has already been somewhat tarnished already

I was going to buy the Foxsat HDR last year but I'm glad I didn't. May buy the 2nd Generation product if its any good.
digitl
09-10-2009
Originally Posted by Everything Goes:
“I suspect their reputation has already been somewhat tarnished already”

I had heard of Humax before I bought the HDR but knew nothing about them. I read around and got the impression they had a good reputation so I bought the original HD box and, later, the HDR.

Two HDRs later, the first replaced, the second refunded, I'm extremely unlikely to give any of my money to Humax ever again as a direct result of the (non-)upgrade fiasco.
Malomaka
09-10-2009
Originally Posted by digitl:
“I had heard of Humax before I bought the HDR but knew nothing about them. I read around and got the impression they had a good reputation so I bought the original HD box and, later, the HDR.

Two HDRs later, the first replaced, the second refunded, I'm extremely unlikely to give any of my money to Humax ever again as a direct result of the (non-)upgrade fiasco.”

I for one wouldn't rush out and buy a Humax product again, based on the lack of software updates to fix niggles.
b.lever
09-10-2009
Originally Posted by richard_g_uk:
“So is mine. It's never woken me up and I sleep about 4 feet away from the box.

The only thing that annoys me at night is the really bright display. If only there was a brightness control for it (we can hope for one in the next firmware update)”

stuff a pair of under pants over it .i have sky digibox two feet from were i sleep pile some of my under pants in front at night .no problem then .
goggled
09-10-2009
Originally Posted by b.lever:
“stuff a pair of under pants over it .i have sky digibox two feet from were i sleep pile some of my under pants in front at night .no problem then .”

Says something good for the product: it still works
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