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Will the real France please turn up for the second half.
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Will the real France please turn up for the second half.
And BBC - PLEASE lose Eddie Butler
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Hard to believe that for all the possession France had at the end, they could not score any points.
Eddie is rather annoying now,seems to delight in making sniping comments at Moore's reasonable observations. |
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Dear English rugby team. Please beat the Frogs next week. Many thanks, the Taffs.
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Dear English rugby team. Please beat the Frogs next week. Many thanks, the Taffs.
If England beat France it will be harder for the Welsh, because nothing makes the French better than being hopless and fearless. |
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Dear English rugby team. Please beat the Frogs next week. Many thanks, the Taffs.
We just call them dirty French bastards. Seriously , I was very much impressed by the kicking from hand by Francois Trinh- Duc. Why other home nations players are incapable of kicking towards the corners as he does , rather than a hopeless punt directly into the hands of the opposition is beyond me. It surely is not that difficult. |
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It appears to be a tactical thing to *not* kick for the corners these days, presumably because the lineouts are no longer properly contested. If you kick infield and get your back row on top of the catcher then there is a better chance of getting turnover. Perhaps a modern coach on here can explain it better?
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It appears to be a tactical thing to *not* kick for the corners these days, presumably because the lineouts are no longer properly contested. If you kick infield and get your back row on top of the catcher then there is a better chance of getting turnover. Perhaps a modern coach on here can explain it better?
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It appears to be a tactical thing to *not* kick for the corners these days, presumably because the lineouts are no longer properly contested. If you kick infield and get your back row on top of the catcher then there is a better chance of getting turnover. Perhaps a modern coach on here can explain it better?
Refs play a big part in it, if a referee is quick to ping players for holding on then it is worth kicking and hoping you can get up quickly. Wales now use it a lot as they have a quick line speed. If you have a good defence it is a good way to play territory but it isn't very exciting. |
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The main theory behind it is to isolate the catcher and hope to get a turnover or a penalty. Saracens have it as their major gameplan it is a bit like the rugby version of the long ball stategy.
Refs play a big part in it, if a referee is quick to ping players for holding on then it is worth kicking and hoping you can get up quickly. Wales now use it a lot as they have a quick line speed. If you have a good defence it is a good way to play territory but it isn't very exciting. |
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I think that would be about the worst thing you could hope for.
If England beat France it will be harder for the Welsh, because nothing makes the French better than being hopless and fearless. Assuming we beat Italy, England beat France and Ireland beat Scotland: W P4 W4 D0 L0 P8 E P4 W3 D0 L1 P6 F P4 W2 D1 L1 P5 I P4 W2 D1 L1 P5 S P4 W0 D0 L4 P0 It P4 W0 D0 L4 P0 I then expect Ireland to beat England, and even if France beat us, they'd be on 7 pts, not enough to beat us. If however France beat England, then it really is winner takes all at Cardiff in a fortnight. |
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Makes no difference in the grand scheme of things - now that France are a point down on us, if we beat Italy and England beat France, we have a three point advantage over them going into the final weekend.
Assuming we beat Italy, England beat France and Ireland beat Scotland: W P4 W4 D0 L0 P8 E P4 W3 D0 L1 P6 F P4 W2 D1 L1 P5 I P4 W2 D1 L1 P5 S P4 W0 D0 L4 P0 It P4 W0 D0 L4 P0 I then expect Ireland to beat England, and even if France beat us, they'd be on 7 pts, not enough to beat us. If however France beat England, then it really is winner takes all at Cardiff in a fortnight. |
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I see Danny Care has been a complete idiot yet again - will he ever learn his lesson or is he (literally) p***ing his career up the wall?
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Makes no difference in the grand scheme of things - now that France are a point down on us, if we beat Italy and England beat France, we have a three point advantage over them going into the final weekend.
Assuming we beat Italy, England beat France and Ireland beat Scotland: W P4 W4 D0 L0 P8 E P4 W3 D0 L1 P6 F P4 W2 D1 L1 P5 I P4 W2 D1 L1 P5 S P4 W0 D0 L4 P0 It P4 W0 D0 L4 P0 I then expect Ireland to beat England, and even if France beat us, they'd be on 7 pts, not enough to beat us. If however France beat England, then it really is winner takes all at Cardiff in a fortnight. Wales should be looking to beat Italy and France and make all other the other results irrelevant and if they want to be taken seriously as a good side then that's the attitude they must have. It's the attitude that the All Blacks, South Africa, Australia, England pre-2004 and France (when they can be bothered) would have. |
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Absolutely, and of course I am rooting for the GS. But we must also be realistic and examine the possibility of winning the pot with a 80% record.
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Too much brawn and not enough brain from Wales in the first half.
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Waiting for the floodgates??
Ha ha! Come on Italy! |
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My feeling for today was underestimate Italy at our peril
Up to the Jamie Roberts try, their defence has been pretty good My only quarrel is this referee is a bit whistle happy and not letting the game flow too much |
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Waiting for the floodgates??
Ha ha! Come on Italy! |
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My feeling for today was underestimate Italy at our peril
Up to the Jamie Roberts try, their defence has been pretty good My only quarrel is this referee is a bit whistle happy and not letting the game flow too much |
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Yellow for Shove. That's one every game in this tournament for us , daft from Halfpenny.
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And there we have it, all set up nicely for next week against France
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I bet France are terrified.....
Wales were awful Preistland in particular. Dithered over every decision. Stop their bi runners don't commit to the breakdown. Dusitoir will love it. |
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Well done to Wales ......
![]() The Championship will all be decided, one way or the other, by the time England and Ireland take the field next week!! Surely the BBC main team will be in Cardiff? Probably not.
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