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The All Purpose Rugby Union Thread
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sensoria
20-03-2010
Originally Posted by vaughan6477:
“I can't believe that for another year , England supporters will buy a decent one off performance as making progress. It isn't helped by the likes of Inverdale in the media , tonight signing off the coverage by saying "English rugby is back with a vengeance". They've finished 3rd in this seasons championship , surely that's a step down from the runners up spot last time.
They need to be a hell of a lot more streetwise , creative and clinical to really threaten France and Ireland in the NH.”

They threatened to beat both of them, a little luck and they would have done. However you don't win on luck alone so ce la ve
juswotmawatchin
20-03-2010
Originally Posted by Frood:
“Brian Moore , if you bother to listen, actually will analise a referees decision whichever way it goes - and from a position of knowing a bit about it.

But don't let your clear anti English bias clear the mists.

Well done to France.”

Where ( evidence please ) have I EVER posted anti English bias ?

I am a great lover of rugby ( played for english clubs )

BUT Brian Moore is a shit commentator.

He may know the law, but dont go on about it for the entire 80 minutes.

As I said before he is there to COMMENTATE on the game.

In old days that used to be describing the action in a manner as to enhance the watching experience.

Im from the Bill McLarens school in more ways than one.
richie4eva
20-03-2010
Originally Posted by vaughan6477:
“I can't believe that for another year , England supporters will buy a decent one off performance as making progress. It isn't helped by the likes of Inverdale in the media , tonight signing off the coverage by saying "English rugby is back with a vengeance". They've finished 3rd in this seasons championship , surely that's a step down from the runners up spot last time.
They need to be a hell of a lot more streetwise , creative and clinical to really threaten France and Ireland in the NH.”

Still remembering the Jonathan Davies moment when he couldn't stop laughing after Wales had just beaten England in Cardiff

All stemming from a certain Mr Inverdale talking about an 'English revival'

They really do bring the detractors on themselves don't they, blame everyone else for a poor performance except themselves whether it be the referee, weather, pitch, etc.

The very same England that just after winning the World Cup in 2003 so arrogantly wanted to break away from the 6 Nations and join the Tri Nations

On a side note, that lady sitting in front of Martin Johnson tonight really made me chuckle
sensoria
20-03-2010
Originally Posted by richie4eva:
“Still remembering the Jonathan Davies moment when he couldn't stop laughing after Wales had just beaten England in Cardiff

All stemming from a certain Mr Inverdale talking about an 'English revival'

They really do bring the detractors on themselves don't they, blame everyone else for a poor performance except themselves whether it be the referee, weather, pitch, etc.

The very same England that just after winning the World Cup in 2003 so arrogantly wanted to break away from the 6 Nations and join the Tri Nations

On a side note, that lady sitting in front of Martin Johnson tonight really made me chuckle ”

Could have been worse though we could have finished 4th, that would have been a real faliure.

And in regards to the England break away you talk about it was John O'niel head of the Autralian Rugby Union that wanted England AND France to join the Tri nations.

but don't let the facts get in the way of your hatred for the English. The only thing I care about this years Six Nations is we beat Wales.
vaughan6477
20-03-2010
Originally Posted by sensoria:
“Could have been worse though we could have finished 4th, that would have been a real faliure.”

It's very funny to see England supporters happy to be average.
vaughan6477
20-03-2010
[quote=sensoria;39142427]Could have been worse though we could have finished 4th, that would have been a real faliure.

And in regards to the England break away you talk about it was John O'niel head of the Autralian Rugby Union that wanted England AND France to join the Tri nations.

but don't let the facts get in the way of your hatred for the English. The only thing I care about this years Six Nations is we beat Wales.[/QUOTE]

That's what you've been reduced to , the very thing Wales supporters were criticised over for years
sensoria
20-03-2010
Originally Posted by vaughan6477:
“It's very funny to see England supporters happy to be average.”

Everything goes in circles. of the two teams we didnt beat we ran them very close.

The best team undoubtedly won the Grand Slam, which is the first time in 7 years.
sensoria
20-03-2010
Originally Posted by vaughan6477:
“That's what you've been reduced to , the very thing Wales supporters were criticised over for years”

Yeah but we didnt loose every game except Wales.
Frood
21-03-2010
Originally Posted by juswotmawatchin:
“Where ( evidence please ) have I EVER posted anti English bias ?



BUT Brian Moore is a shit commentator.

He may know the law, but dont go on about it for the entire 80 minutes.

As I said before he is there to COMMENTATE on the game.

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1 Look through this thread - it's obvious.

2. Moore is the analyst, not the match commentator (what the Americans call the 'color man'). He's the man to give a deeper analysis of the tactics and decisions - both by teams an officials during the game.

And he is excellent at that.

You actually learn things when Brian Moore speaks - if you bother to listen.

Bill McLaren's job was to give an overview.
david1955
21-03-2010
Originally Posted by Frood:
“1 Look through this thread - it's obvious.

2. Moore is the analyst, not the match commentator (what the Americans call the 'color man'). He's the man to give a deeper analysis of the tactics and decisions - both by teams an officials during the game.

And he is excellent at that.

You actually learn things when Brian Moore speaks - if you bother to listen.

Bill McLaren's job was to give an overview.”

Yes, Brian Moore is not a commentator, he is an expert who uses his experience to analyse the game. He does this very well, unlike Jonathan Davies who shrieks in a loud voice and constantly repeats himself.

However surely Bill McLaren was a commentator and not a summariser.

I couldn't see the England game , so I've just seen a few highlights, pity , it must have been a good game.
MeicY
21-03-2010
Here is today's pile of pish:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-football.html
Kel'Thuzad
21-03-2010
What a crock of horse shit that Daily Mail article is! Admittedly, I'm not the most ardent of Rugby Union (hell I wouldn't even claim that I understand all the intricacies of the game) fans but I really enjoy this time of year as I love nothing more than to watch the Six Nations. Yesterdays, Super Saturday bonanza on BBC1 was no different and I enjoyed watching every match while sitting back with a few beers. For most Saturdays of the year we're subjected to absolute shite like Casualty, Strictly Come Dancing and whatever other pish that constitutes family entertainment on BBC1, and I for one was glad that Rugby dominated the agenda on the beeb yesterday.
Tiger Rose
21-03-2010
Originally Posted by MeicY:
“Here is today's pile of pish:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...-football.html”

More of the same in the DS Broadcasting Forum. It's ridiculous. Not like BBC1 is wall to wall sport most of the time. In fact it's very rare for BBC1 to show sport in prime time nowadays.
Mike Teevee
22-03-2010
morning everybody

well done France for winning the 6Nations, even though were pretty average on Saturday. I thoroughly enjoyed my first every trip to Stade de France and would definitely go again.

England put in an improved performance, just like they did Ireland. Which is kinda ironic seeing as they lost both of those matches.

Still not convinced that we're making proper progress and didn't see much to suggest we'll do better than qtr finals at next year's WC. I hope players like Foden, Ashton, Lawes, Cole heck even Cips are giving a chance to become regulars. I can understand why Jonno wants a better defensive performance, but we do need to show more/better attacking intent

congrats to Scotland for avoiding the wooden spoon

and well done to Wales for a decent victory over Italy.

roll on the end of the domestic season and the two European competitions
david1955
22-03-2010
A mention must be made of Nottingham's very surprise victory in the Championship play-off against Exeter.

We now have to play against those ( London) Welsh so and sos.
I love Ellie
22-03-2010
Originally Posted by david1955:
“A mention must be made of Nottingham's very surprise victory in the Championship play-off against Exeter.

We now have to play against those ( London) Welsh so and sos.”

and we beat Doncaster 26-10, a bonus point win!
dids858
24-03-2010
A bit of drama at Quins were the RU have muscled in on a RL fixture to create a double header. With a gap around 2 hours between games.

Bumped the price up to £25 and most of RL fans from saints wont be arriving until after the RU but still have to pay £10 more than anyother League visiting the stoop this season.
Mike Teevee
29-03-2010
we lost against Saints, despite dominating large amounts of the match

London Irish thrash Sale
Sarrie really thrash Newcastle
Bath continue their impressive run

meanwhile in the other code Leeds continue to flounder, rumours are they want Smith back (either loan or permanent)
I love Ellie
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by dids858:
“A bit of drama at Quins were the RU have muscled in on a RL fixture to create a double header. With a gap around 2 hours between games.

Bumped the price up to £25 and most of RL fans from saints wont be arriving until after the RU but still have to pay £10 more than anyother League visiting the stoop this season.”

The last Quins RL game I saw last season cost me £20.
Frood
29-03-2010
A bit late but it must be said that the Cup Final yesterday week was a fanstastic game. Excellent rugby by both sides.

Northampton are really coming into form.
Mike Teevee
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by Frood:
“A bit late but it must be said that the Cup Final yesterday week was a fanstastic game. Excellent rugby by both sides.

Northampton are really coming into form.”

they do seem to be on fire at the moment, even if I do think they were a tad lucky on Saturday. They've got a great squad of players and Jim Mallinder has them playing some great rugby

I have my doubts about whether they'll overcome Munster in HC qtr final, but they're a good bet for GP title
dids858
29-03-2010
Originally Posted by I love Ellie:
“The last Quins RL game I saw last season cost me £20.”

£15 this season.
sensoria
30-03-2010
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“they do seem to be on fire at the moment, even if I do think they were a tad lucky on Saturday. They've got a great squad of players and Jim Mallinder has them playing some great rugby

I have my doubts about whether they'll overcome Munster in HC qtr final, but they're a good bet for GP title”

Tonga'uiha is gonna be a huge hole for them to fill next year. Player of the season for me.
Mike Teevee
30-03-2010
Originally Posted by sensoria:
“Tonga'uiha is gonna be a huge hole for them to fill next year. Player of the season for me.”

rumours are he's changed his mind about going to Sarries

apparently he wants to stay at Saints
Mike Teevee
31-03-2010
Originally Posted by Mike Teevee:
“we lost against Saints, despite dominating large amounts of the match

London Irish thrash Sale
Sarrie really thrash Newcastle
Bath continue their impressive run

meanwhile in the other code Leeds continue to flounder, rumours are they want Smith back (either loan or permanent)”

Wasps release Smith

so that experiment seems to have failed, he'll probably be back for Leeds in the next week or so

shame as I think he could have been a good player for us
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