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The All Purpose Rugby Union Thread
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ff999
22-03-2011
Originally Posted by Dai13371:
“Talk about smashing the opponents. Well done Glaws

Anyone else think the LV= pool system is, shall we say, rather strangely setup?”

I wish 'they' (who ever they are) would go back to the FA Cup style knockout competition, where non premiership teams had the chance to do some giant killing. I found that set up much more interesting, and there are less games.
Hang on, that'll be why 'they' aren't doing knock out games - not enough money generated by us poor saps who go to watch.
Chiaroscuro
22-03-2011
Originally Posted by richie4eva:
“Well, thank you everyone for your company for this years 6 Nations as it draws to its close

Not the best tournament this year in terms of quality, and I don't think the south will be too worried going into the World Cup

Congrats to England on winning the championship this year and onwards and upwards to the summer internationals and World Cup all the teams go”

Agree with you richie, it wasn't the best tournament and I did feel a bit flat on Saturday, but it's been good reading people's comments here and there's lots more rugby to look foward to this year.

I love Ellie
23-03-2011
Originally Posted by ff999:
“I wish 'they' (who ever they are) would go back to the FA Cup style knockout competition, where non premiership teams had the chance to do some giant killing. I found that set up much more interesting, and there are less games.
Hang on, that'll be why 'they' aren't doing knock out games - not enough money generated by us poor saps who go to watch.”

I'd like to see a return to that.

I remember the day London Welsh hosted Northampton. Old Deer Park was packed, rammed, there must've been over 4000 there. Also, London Welsh put up a good display before being beaten.

Overheard in the bar afterwards, was Tim Rodber. he was being badgered by some people who said they'd been invited to Quins and they should go. Rodber's blunt reply to them was "we're staying here, this is a REAL rugby club".

Also, we played London Irish in the cup, when they'd done their pro move to Reading. it was another good crowd, albeit certainly not 4000. Irish stuck 60 points on us that day, but their fans told us it was great to be back at a 'proper rugby club' and not some soulless wendyball stadium.

Canterbury enjoyed their day at us in the cup. They had some handy players, who belied their then Nat 3 South status. However, we did stick 70 odd points on them, os no giant killing that day.
sensoria
23-03-2011
Originally Posted by I love Ellie:
“I'd like to see a return to that.

I remember the day London Welsh hosted Northampton. Old Deer Park was packed, rammed, there must've been over 4000 there. Also, London Welsh put up a good display before being beaten.

Overheard in the bar afterwards, was Tim Rodber. he was being badgered by some people who said they'd been invited to Quins and they should go. Rodber's blunt reply to them was "we're staying here, this is a REAL rugby club".

Also, we played London Irish in the cup, when they'd done their pro move to Reading. it was another good crowd, albeit certainly not 4000. Irish stuck 60 points on us that day, but their fans told us it was great to be back at a 'proper rugby club' and not some soulless wendyball stadium.

Canterbury enjoyed their day at us in the cup. They had some handy players, who belied their then Nat 3 South status. However, we did stick 70 odd points on them, os no giant killing that day.”

Thats the problem though really there never is a giant killing in rugby becasue the step up in the levels is so big, in terms of physicality.
You only have to look at the 2 tear championship where only about 4 teams could ever get a result against the worst team in the premiership.
In football you can get lucky but pro athletes against amatures in a sport as physical as rugby is just a step to far.

Would be great but it would be a bloodbath in terms of results.
I love Ellie
23-03-2011
Originally Posted by sensoria:
“Thats the problem though really there never is a giant killing in rugby becasue the step up in the levels is so big, in terms of physicality.
You only have to look at the 2 tear championship where only about 4 teams could ever get a result against the worst team in the premiership.
In football you can get lucky but pro athletes against amatures in a sport as physical as rugby is just a step to far.

Would be great but it would be a bloodbath in terms of results.”

True, but it's a nice 'day out' for the supporters and I dare say the players too.
Dai13371
23-03-2011
Originally Posted by I love Ellie:
“It's a bit of a crap competiton these days. Certainly since they day I visited a packed Twickenham to watch the Ospreys play Leicester.

We all had full teams out that day.

Compare that to this seasons pool game. Matthew Morgan was our fly half and the barman from my village pub came on as replacement prop!”

Craig Cross?
Dai13371
23-03-2011
Originally Posted by sensoria:
“Anyone going to Twickenham Sunday for the Crusaders v Sharks game?

Great opportunity to see some living playing rugby legends without having to travell round the globe.......

I am really tempted but it seems quite steep pricing.”

Did you make it to Old Deer Park and the Pacific Barbarians v Australian XV? Loved to have seen that.
I love Ellie
24-03-2011
Originally Posted by Dai13371:
“Craig Cross?”

No, Joe Rees.

Fair play though, he is an U21 international.
I love Ellie
24-03-2011
Originally Posted by Dai13371:
“Did you make it to Old Deer Park and the Pacific Barbarians v Australian XV? Loved to have seen that.”

I couldn't make that, but I did catch the end of a Pacific Island game there some months ago.

There I was on the touchline, behind me stood Trevor Leota, Apollo Perelini and a few other rather large playing gentlemen.
vaughan6477
24-03-2011
Originally Posted by sensoria:
“Anyone going to Twickenham Sunday for the Crusaders v Sharks game?

Great opportunity to see some living playing rugby legends without having to travell round the globe.......

I am really tempted but it seems quite steep pricing.”

Hoping to go there myself. Been a decade since I was lucky enough to go to some "Super" rugby matches in Oz and New Zealand. The pace of the games was something to see live in those days and you could understand all the SH supporters whingers about the stodgy games we played in this hemisphere.
Marmite Baby
27-03-2011
Saw Northampton hammer Wasps 39-3 today. Pity we can't play them every week. What a difference having the England players back again & Courtney Lawes fully recovered & in world-class form.
I love Ellie
28-03-2011
Lee Byrne puts those rumours to bed.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...1466-28409942/
sensoria
29-03-2011
Originally Posted by I love Ellie:
“Lee Byrne puts those rumours to bed.

http://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wa...1466-28409942/”

What rumours?? if they are what I think they are getting married is hardly putting it to bed...........Gareth Thomas got married.

I see Craig Mitchell is the latest to leave the Ospreys signing for Exeter.

I heard a great story from a saracen player at the weekend about Henson. Apperently after he got his kit he took it all to a taylor in Wales and had it all taken in a stiched in places. Also after 2 weeks training there he was asked to name the first team players in the squad a point for a full name and half a point for a nickname. He got 3 points and couldnt name the kicking coach he had been working with for 2 weeks.
vaughan6477
04-04-2011
Disgraceful from the WRU
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugb...h/12964924.stm

I hope Gavin Quinnell can sue the hell out of them.
I love Ellie
08-04-2011
Originally Posted by sensoria:
“I heard a great story from a saracen player at the weekend about Henson. Apperently after he got his kit he took it all to a taylor in Wales and had it all taken in a stiched in places. Also after 2 weeks training there he was asked to name the first team players in the squad a point for a full name and half a point for a nickname. He got 3 points and couldnt name the kicking coach he had been working with for 2 weeks.”

I heard a great story from a family member who also is an occasional MS steward, about Henson.

She was stewarding at the hospitality area for non-playing players and their families/sponsors and the like.

She said Henson was quite the politest guy she's ever met and was perfectly charming to everyone.

Another player, who shall be unnamed, is always a right pain in the arse. We were shocked at this, since we are very friendly with his sister and his father, who are lovely people and we've no reason to think otherwise of the player. I think this player needs reminding that my other half once wiped his arse and changed his nappy when he was a baby!!
Mike Teevee
08-04-2011
last chance for Wasps to salvage their season tonight

tough game at Quins, even with Marler missing it's gonna be very tough

lose this and we truly have nothing left to play for, bar desperate bid to finish top 6
Dai13371
08-04-2011
Originally Posted by I love Ellie:
“I heard a great story from a family member who also is an occasional MS steward, about Henson.

She was stewarding at the hospitality area for non-playing players and their families/sponsors and the like.

She said Henson was quite the politest guy she's ever met and was perfectly charming to everyone.

Another player, who shall be unnamed, is always a right pain in the arse. We were shocked at this, since we are very friendly with his sister and his father, who are lovely people and we've no reason to think otherwise of the player. I think this player needs reminding that my other half once wiped his arse and changed his nappy when he was a baby!!”

Dan Biggar (or Bighead if you are a one eyed turk) is often accused of being an arrogant so and so, but off the field people have found him to be perfectly polite and unassuming.
Marmite Baby
12-04-2011
Disgusted with the RFU's Leniency towards Mark Cueto. How convenient to half the normal ban for eye-gouging so he can play in the World Cup. How many more players like Gavin Quinnell are going to get blinded before the rugby authorities start taking this seriously?
I love Ellie
12-04-2011
Originally Posted by Marmite Baby:
“Disgusted with the RFU's Leniency towards Mark Cueto. How convenient to half the normal ban for eye-gouging so he can play in the World Cup. How many more players like Gavin Quinnell are going to get blinded before the rugby authorities start taking this seriously?”

Didn't a French prop get a year or two?
sensoria
14-04-2011
Originally Posted by Marmite Baby:
“Disgusted with the RFU's Leniency towards Mark Cueto. How convenient to half the normal ban for eye-gouging so he can play in the World Cup. How many more players like Gavin Quinnell are going to get blinded before the rugby authorities start taking this seriously?”

Difficult one, but if the person who was supposed to have been gouged says "I wasnt gouged, I have been in the past and know what it feels like. Yes the pitures look bad but I can assure you I never felt any pressure on my eyes" then not sure how you can go any further with it.
Frood
14-04-2011
Originally Posted by Marmite Baby:
“Disgusted with the RFU's Leniency towards Mark Cueto. How convenient to half the normal ban for eye-gouging so he can play in the World Cup. How many more players like Gavin Quinnell are going to get blinded before the rugby authorities start taking this seriously?”

Well Christian Day says he wasn't gouged. Apparently the doctors check afterwards suggested that there was no sign of gouging.

The Board clamp down on this heavily, but this was clearly not a major transgression. They look on it on a case by case basis.

If anything the 9 week ban might be rather harsh
Marmite Baby
14-04-2011
Originally Posted by Frood:
“Well Christian Day says he wasn't gouged. Apparently the doctors check afterwards suggested that there was no sign of gouging.

The Board clamp down on this heavily, but this was clearly not a major transgression. They look on it on a case by case basis.

If anything the 9 week ban might be rather harsh”

Just because Cueto's not an expert like a French prop for example at eye-gouging doesn't make the offence any less reprehensible. Day's probably not making such a fuss as, apart from escaping any serious injury, he's an ex-Sale player & has many friends still at the club.
Frood
14-04-2011
Originally Posted by Marmite Baby:
“Just because Cueto's not an expert like a French prop for example at eye-gouging doesn't make the offence any less reprehensible. Day's probably not making such a fuss as, apart from escaping any serious injury, he's an ex-Sale player & has many friends still at the club.”

Was there any indication of an attempt to gouge?

No evidence of it.

It's the nature of rugby that there is often contact near the head, even the eyes, but this appears to be incidental.
Marmite Baby
14-04-2011
Originally Posted by Frood:
“Was there any indication of an attempt to gouge?

No evidence of it.

It's the nature of rugby that there is often contact near the head, even the eyes, but this appears to be incidental.”

Apart from the pictures
Mike Teevee
14-04-2011
it does look like RFU have been lenient to Cueto, especially as other players have been banned longer for similar

the fact that Day didn't think he was gouged (regardless of whether he's pally with Cueto or not) clearly gave RFU an easy out
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