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The Brits, was it good for you, baby?
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Megson1965
22-02-2004
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“Originally posted by Ruby_
Of course, you're absolutely right about Robert Fripp.

Peter Gabriel is a genius - and 'Selling England by the Pound' and 'The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway' were two of the most brilliant albums released in an era of brilliant albums - but I cannot agree that launching the career of Phil Collins was a contribution to music. The warmest thing I could say about Collins is that he was extremely successful.

Marillion are obviously a very long-lived and well-respected band but I'm afraid I've not listened to much of their music. By the time they came along, I was heavily into other genres. In fact the whole 1980s progressive rock thing passed me by, and I've never even heard of It Bites.

Which of Marillion's albums would you recommend as an introduction?
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Setting personal preference to one side for a minute, I would recommend Misplaced Childhood simply because this album will (hopefully) contain a couple of tracks you know as it features Kayleigh and Lavender - Marillion's two biggest hits. The album also contains a lot of varying styles and is surprisingly cohesive considering it is one continuous piece of music.

Happy listening with whatever you choose.

PS As for It Bites, you may not have to wait too long to hear more from this underated four piece as their web-site states "The band are currently in rehearsals writing and exploring lots of musical ideas for their next album." I can't wait. For more info on It Bites check this link out.
anna123
22-02-2004
i thoughtd alicia gwen and missy were the best performance..
i liked the beyonce and outkast one but it would have been better if they'd actuslly done a duet!!
Didnt like busteds performance.
Megson1965
22-02-2004
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“Originally posted by anna123
i thoughtd alicia gwen and missy were the best performance..
i liked the beyonce and outkast one but it would have been better if they'd actuslly done a duet!!
Didnt like busteds performance.
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The world would be a boring place if we all enjoyed the same things but, I must confess that I thought that the performance of Alicia Keys, Gwen Steffani and Missy Elliot was atrocious, just marginally worse than Jamie Cullen and Katie Melua.

Jamie and Katie are undoubtedly very talented young artists with a fantastic future ahead of them but their performance at the Brits was hardly the best advertisement for their respective talents.
Ruby_
22-02-2004
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“Originally posted by Megson1965
Interesting debate and I might be wrong as I haven't got the figures to hand, but I reckon you'll find that Genesis have certainly sold more records that Duran Duran. They may have sold out to stadium pop from 1980 onwards, but they were absolutely huge - worldwide. As for King Crimson, I'm not sure. They've sold a phenomenal amount too, based on their longevity - they're still going strong; the latest release 'Power to Believe' is another triumph.

As for them not being household names, I guess it depends on whose household you live in. Both my daughters (ages 8 and 4) are familiar with Genesis and King Crimson and the eldest is accompanying me to Wembley Arena in June to see Yes. Lol - now she is the lucky one !
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Hi Megson, thanks for your reply. It looks as though you're right about Genesis. I couldn't track down official figures but the World of Genesis fan site says they've sold more than 100 million albums worldwide - whereas most sites reporting on the Brit Awards said that Duran Duran have sold over 70 million records (presumably including albums and singles). Also, a site on the top-selling artists in the USA said Genesis are the 92nd biggest selling artist in the USA by cumulative sales (21.5 million) whereas Duran Duran aren't in the top US 100.

There you are - probably more than you ever wanted to know about sales figures.

I liked your story about your daughters - at the risk of sounding soppy it's kind of reassuring and sweet to hear about young children being familiar with Genesis and King Crimson, and going to Yes concerts.
Ruby_
22-02-2004
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“Originally posted by Megson1965
Setting personal preference to one side for a minute, I would recommend Misplaced Childhood simply because this album will (hopefully) contain a couple of tracks you know as it features Kayleigh and Lavender - Marillion's two biggest hits. The album also contains a lot of varying styles and is surprisingly cohesive considering it is one continuous piece of music.

Happy listening with whatever you choose.

PS As for It Bites, you may not have to wait too long to hear more from this underated four piece as their web-site states "The band are currently in rehearsals writing and exploring lots of musical ideas for their next album." I can't wait. For more info on It Bites check this link out.
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Thanks for the recommendation and the link... I'll definitely do some exploration.
Ruby_
22-02-2004
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“Originally posted by Marillion fan
If you're interested in Marillion, I recommend you go to www.cduniverse.com and listen to some free sound clips. That's a good way of finding out whether you like the sound of them. Listen to clips from Clutching at Straws, Seasons End and Afraid of Sunlight - I love those albums. ”

Thanks very much, I certainly will.

Incidentally I'm very excited about finding out about cduniverse.com, which I hadn't heard of before, because I've been persevering for ages with amazon.com's clunky interface for listening to clips - which rations them out at 5 per album. The cduniverse site is superb by comparison.
Megson1965
22-02-2004
Quote:
“Originally posted by Ruby_
Hi Megson, thanks for your reply. It looks as though you're right about Genesis. I couldn't track down official figures but the World of Genesis fan site says they've sold more than 100 million albums worldwide - whereas most sites reporting on the Brit Awards said that Duran Duran have sold over 70 million records (presumably including albums and singles). Also, a site on the top-selling artists in the USA said Genesis are the 92nd biggest selling artist in the USA by cumulative sales (21.5 million) whereas Duran Duran aren't in the top US 100.

There you are - probably more than you ever wanted to know about sales figures.

I liked your story about your daughters - at the risk of sounding soppy it's kind of reassuring and sweet to hear about young children being familiar with Genesis and King Crimson, and going to Yes concerts.
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Thanks for the reply Ruby and for the information - it's nice to discover that one's assumption and gut feeling was right . I am going to explore those links in more depth later; anyone familiar with my posts will tell you that I'm a bit of an anorak when it comes to facts and figures lol!
Marillion fan
22-02-2004
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“Originally posted by Megson1965
Kayleigh and Lavender - Marillion's two biggest hits. ”

She doesn't like Phil Collins though, and those tracks had more than a hint of Phil about them, didn't they?

Misplaced Childhood is a bit overrated IMO. It was only such a great success because a lot of pop fans went out and bought it.
DryHumper
22-02-2004
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“Originally posted by Megson1965
The world would be a boring place if we all enjoyed the same things but, I must confess that I thought that the performance of Alicia Keys, Gwen Steffani and Missy Elliot was atrocious, just marginally worse than Jamie Cullen and Katie Melua.

Jamie and Katie are undoubtedly very talented young artists with a fantastic future ahead of them but their performance at the Brits was hardly the best advertisement for their respective talents.
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I think it would have been much better if Jamie had done it on his own, the style in which the song was done just didn't suit her voice. It reminded me of one of the poorer Fame Academy matchups.
Ruby_
01-03-2004
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“Originally posted by Marillion fan
If you're interested in Marillion, I recommend you go to www.cduniverse.com and listen to some free sound clips. That's a good way of finding out whether you like the sound of them. Listen to clips from Clutching at Straws, Seasons End and Afraid of Sunlight - I love those albums. ”

It took me ages to get around to this but I've listened to these three albums now, as well as Misplaced Childhood and Brave.

Marillion in the Fish period as opposed to the Steve Hogarth period sound like two very different bands. It's apparent to me now why I never paid much attention to Marillion - it was because I was never overly keen on Fish's vocals. I did recognise 'Kayleigh' and 'Lavender' and you were right - let's just say that Misplaced Childhood is an album I will not be listening to again. Clutching at Straws is a bit of a mixed bag for me - definitely some great tracks, but some I don't like.

I love the Hogarth albums though. Afraid of Sunlight is gorgeous - especially the title track and 'Out of This World' and 'Beyond You'. I also liked Seasons End a lot. They've both gone onto my list of albums to buy. I quite liked Brave as well - interesting stuff - if I was going to splash out on a third album, I think it would probably be that one.
Adam McGuinness
01-03-2004
The whole award show sucked, it was so bad that i'm not actually a darkness fan anymore, i cant stand them really, damn over commercialisationists (not sure if thats a word, well it is now ) they've ruined the darkness for a lot of people.

MUSE, they were amazing though, i still am waiting to see them live myself, but they definantly played one of their best songs, hysteria, and it made every other part of that show look even more terrible in comparison!
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